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Ban numbered responses.

Fuck me it is not the class room.

My immediate neighbour is Italian as is his wife. I myself have worked in Milan for 6 months once.

It is pretty relevant when you take the Thatcherite view that there is no such thing as community.

It sums up your entire ethos.

Nationhood above everything else and to the detriment of both individuals and communities.


You keep quoting statistics from clearly biased and invested group led by agenda driven aristocrats, Corporate giants, bent businessmen and corrupt politicians and then demanding that I deny and ignore any personal experience, or the experiences of anyone I may know whether they be relatives, friends or work colleagues. It is made even more ridiculous by the fact that you do not live and work in either the UK or Europe but you are so eager for your narrative to be presented as the truth about a situation you have no experience of and nothing to gain or lose from. A bit like the Troy, UKIP and Brexit part candidates who live in France, Spain etc and are demanding a no deal Brexit.

Crazy Stuff.
I don't give a damn. I lived in the same house as an Italian for several years. Nice enough chap, but he was not English and I am not Italian.

You deny statistics just as you deny any evidence based around Tommy Robinson. You cannot reason with someone that denies data.

I have lived in many more parts of the UK than you have and know plenty of people from many different countries. You live in a provincial mostly white middle class town with very little migration and no grooming. Go and live in London for a few years or go and live in Manchester for a few years and get back to me. Otherwise I really do think you are in a bit of a bubble yourself.
I live in a poor city. It most certainly is not middle class and neither am I. There are council houses on the opposite side of my street and i was born and brought up on a council estate. I have lived in caravans and even a tent for a while. I have lived and worked all over the UK including London. You assume to much. The point is you do not live here and have not for many years. I voted in the referendum and voted in the EU elections yesterday. You did neither and yet like many people who are not living here you seek to not only dominate the conversation but to dismiss anyone with a different view than your fantasy.

There are many, many immigrants in my city. From all over the world. We are a naval port form which people like Scott, Darwin, Cook atc left to explore the world. You like most Northerners think the South West is like The South East and it is not. There is huge poverty here and in both counties.

I can also assure you i have met, talked, sat down, volunteered and lived with many more of the people you demonize than you can imagine. I don't think that makes my opinion more valid than yours but it sure as hell is more informed.