Genuine Question: Why do people stay poor?

[Beanz]

1. Okay, so you are now going to deny hundreds of scientific investigations. IQ is the one of the most tested aspects there is when it comes to evaluating human intelligence and behavior. Unlike evolution, or global warming, you and I can take an IQ test right now and compare scores. We can also then compare our lives. Just me and you, one on one, and come to some conclusions. Either you are smarter than me. Or else I am smarter than you. A shoot out. IQ is of course useful as an overall evaluator of races, genders, age groups, religious types typically large groups of people. If it was down to me and you it would be taking us as individuals and I prefer that approach as there are undeniably very smart black people and some very stupid white people. I am confident I can perform better than you though Denilson and it is not because you are black.

Let's start with this IQ thing first

1. Okay, so you are now going to deny hundreds of scientific investigations. IQ is the one of the most tested aspects there is when it comes to evaluating human intelligence and behavior. Unlike evolution, or global warming, you and I can take an IQ test right now and compare scores. We can also then compare our lives. Just me and you, one on one, and come to some conclusions. Either you are smarter than me. Or else I am smarter than you. A shoot out. IQ is of course useful as an overall evaluator of races, genders, age groups, religious types typically large groups of people. If it was down to me and you it would be taking us as individuals and I prefer that approach as there are undeniably very smart black people and some very stupid white people. I am confident I can perform better than you though Denilson and it is not because you are black.

Call me intellectually inferior all day

I don't give a sh*t about that

Listen to yourself

"Either you are smarter than me. Or else I am smarter than you. A shoot out. "

You sound like seven years old (lol)

Ok. You're smarter than me dude. Considering that seems to be so important to you. You can have it.

Because all I want to know from all you guys who are always running around trying to prove how stupid black people are is three questions :

1) If IQ is so important then why don't you drive you argument to it's logical conclusions : That is why not give all the top positions to those with the highest IQ ? Why have elections ? Why have job interviews or resumes ? Just give you all them the person with the highest IQ ?

2) If you are trying to ground IQ as a genetic product of race the very first thing you NEED to do is offer up a genetic or biological definition of race.

Something no one has not done nor has any study.

But I always, sit back, invite guys like you to me give such a definition. Mainly because their fumbling attempts to define race point out just how subjective such definitions are.

In close to 15 years of debating race and IQ and genetics.

I have yet to see any one of them, no matter what their scientific c credentials, offer up an acceptably neutral definition of race.

And finally and by far the most important question

3) What do you do with a race of black people who you are claiming are not as smart as white people (on av) ?

You had to edit your post several hours later which suggests to me off the bat that in real time I think sharper than you do. Can you show up 45 minutes late to an exam and still ace it? I know I can. Exams are mostly IQ tests. The ability to use reason, solve problems and formulate responses. It took you several hours to come up with the immaculate retort of 'are you seven'. That is my competition.

You ignored my part about there being highly intelligent black people and less intelligent white people as you are pure agenda with an enormous chip on your shoulder. Of course I would ace you on an IQ test. I would ace the vast majority of people regardless of color. I have taken enough tests to know how easy they are for me and seen enough people struggle to know others are not so adept.

Yes, I would suggest that jobs are filled based upon ability so regardless of color the most suitable person gets the job. You ignore the part about black people doing exactly the same work that I do too. They don't have your issues, Denilson. You haven't grown up yet.

I think nothing needs to be done in regards to black people but in terms of society and that is we encourage nuclear families with children planned well and provide every opportunity to learn. I agree few will become Zuckerberg and neither will you or I but you can do well. Watch the video I posted. That young black man went through just what I and other disadvantaged people have been through. It is about self responsibility.

I am supposed to be retired, but came back to give you an honest response. You can ask questions, but I am taking a break for a while. Wsit a few months and I will answer more if you like. Good luck and cheer up.

This is just another extension of your meritocracy delusion. For you IQ is everything because you have nothing else. It is also the go to choice for you because by any normal and reasonable measure you are not all that special. Your inability to adapt to your environment ( a much more accurate test of intelligence ) has forced you into exile hiding away in a flat drinking tea and reading books about Oscar Wilde as a substitute for having had a personality bypass.



IQ does nothing to measure the ability to ignore the cognitive bias that you clearly start any attempt at reasoning from. IQ tests are actually a very poor indicator of all round intelligence. The problem lies within the definition and like with all discussions of complexity or multi-faceted problems you will dismiss any discussion that is not merely surface level as a word salad. Though it is clearly your popcorn level of attention at fault you will deflect any uncomfortable or complicated questions with an automatic deferral to data and statistics, all helpfully provided by whoever is your bigot of the moment this week.For you and proponents of the IQ test, intelligence, very conveniently is defined as the mental abilities that can be defined by IQ tests. Think for one second about the backwards engineering employed to justify such a reductive pile of faux intellectual nonsense.
Cognitive capacity is better understood as a series of overlapping multiple intelligences most of which can not be measured in any meaningful way by the laughably naïve IQ test. Mathematical, emotional, visual-spatial, verbal,musical,social,Physiological,self-reflective,etc


IQ does not even measure rational thinking, that is the ability to act counter intuitively. (I am not advocating ignoring or failing to harness the valuable power if intuition in interpersonal relationships and music and art. In fact in circumstances in which one has had a lot of first hand experience knowing when to trust ones intuition is often the most intellectually sound way of reacting.)What I am proposing is that our actual ability, and desire to actively use deliberative skills, is not something measured by IQ tests at all.What this means in the real world is that 'Smart People' as those who do well in IQ tests like to call themselves, often make stupid decisions. They are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, more likely to want to be told what to do, mainly because of their own very limited version of intelligence.

So like you Gandalf, they take fewer risks but have greater emotional instability anyway. They go through life failing to learn. Why? because they think that book centred learning is the same as real world experience, which of course it isn't. This means not only do they think their work holds more weight and their reasoning is superior to others, they also think they (because of their high IQ and they think immunity to making mistakes) are less likely to fall for scams. Gandalf you have fallen for scams repeatedly for years though, and that is just the ones you are admitting to us, but because you have become skilled in defending dumb beliefs, you have even managed to convince yourself that black people choose to be poor.

IQ is not even fixed, it can change dramatically through your life. Heritability is not the same as hereditary (I have written about this here before) and so the whole idea that groups have correlated IQ because of race is bullshit and wishful thinking.