Reparations for slavery...... yay or nay?

[El Kabong]

This is one of America's top black journalists

Posts Ta-Nehisi Coates article HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Beanz]

I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.

Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.

No, they gave reparation to the Jewish community. If they can do it, then anyone can.

Anyone can? Poor way to begin this argument. You are wrong by A degree that makes this too hard to argue.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

So you're wanting a rematch of the War between The States? You think that'll be positive? Because it seems like that's what you're wanting.



If reparations ever occur (and they won't on account of it's Democrat pandering because they're deathly afraid of being abandoned by a certain demographic) I'll be paying EXACTLY $0.00


.....it's a hill on which I will die



I would rather burn my money, my home, and all possessions and salt the Earth on which I have planted so that nothing ever grows on it again than have it pay for sins I never committed.




Understand the gravity of that @Master?

"The popular mocking of reparations as a harebrained scheme authored by wild-eyed lefties and intellectually unserious black nationalists is fear masquerading as laughter. Black nationalists have always perceived something unmentionable about America that integrationists dare not acknowledge—that white supremacy is not merely the work of hotheaded demagogues, or a matter of false consciousness, but a force so fundamental to America that it is difficult to imagine the country without it."

It is brilliantly insightful. Thanks Kirkland. People do not like difficult questions and would rather dismiss them, so I expect it would be beyond many to even contemplate the value of another perspective, let alone try and reexamine long held beliefs thru another lens. It is worth the effort, but it is an effort nonetheless, and so it is easier to just mock, roll the eyes and pretend that confronting difficult questions us in itself a vapid and stupid exercise.

Fuck that kind of entrenched privileged cowardice.

This is one of America's top black journalists

Posts Ta-Nehisi Coates article HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Money,home and possessions were not more important to Jesus than justice.

You are a Christian and therefore your entire belief system is built around paying for sins you have not committed. Those of Adam and Eve.

What are you so afraid of?

[El Kabong]

Money,home and possessions were not more important to Jesus than justice.

You are a Christian and therefore your entire belief system is built around paying for sins you have not committed. Those of Adam and Eve.

What are you so afraid of?

Reparations are not justice it's political pandering but I get that you're too dense to understand that. Remember who is promising these things and what they've accomplished.

I ADORE how you of all people lecture me on Jesus. You despise the religion you've said as much of your time practicing it. So don't come to me and tell me what is good and true and fair because you haven't the slightest idea.

You don't get to dictate to me who I am or what I believe.

Afraid? No, not afraid. I'm irked that 1. People are dumb enough to believe it would ever happen and 2. That people are dumb enough to think reparations would accomplish anything but further dividing the nation I live in and love.

Let's play it through let's say Reparations happen....THEN WHAT?

[Beanz]

Money,home and possessions were not more important to Jesus than justice.

You are a Christian and therefore your entire belief system is built around paying for sins you have not committed. Those of Adam and Eve.

What are you so afraid of?

Reparations are not justice it's political pandering but I get that you're too dense to understand that. Remember who is promising these things and what they've accomplished.

I ADORE how you of all people lecture me on Jesus. You despise the religion you've said as much of your time practicing it. So don't come to me and tell me what is good and true and fair because you haven't the slightest idea.

You don't get to dictate to me who I am or what I believe.

Afraid? No, not afraid. I'm irked that 1. People are dumb enough to believe it would ever happen and 2. That people are dumb enough to think reparations would accomplish anything but further dividing the nation I live in and love.

Let's play it through let's say Reparations happen....THEN WHAT?

No lets not play because it is not a game. I most certainly do not despise Christianity, that is your way of refusing to engage with anything in a meaningful or adult way. I have many friends who are practicing Christians and I have no interest in lecturing anyone, but you don't get to censor replies that reveal the inconsistencies of your own argument. It was you who said , and I quote

"I would rather burn my money, my home, and all possessions and salt the Earth on which I have planted so that nothing ever grows on it again than have it pay for sins I never committed."

So if you are going to invoke Biblical language and use the threats that your God's enemies used against his people, do not be surprised when it is pointed out to you how stupid and hugely unchristian such an argument is. And yes you are terrified, absolutely bricking it to be honest. Why else would you react in the way you have if it was not something you had a problem examining the merits of.

Have you read the Essay?

Your nation is already divided, so much so that a lot of that divisive bullshit has leaked out and is informing the mindset and actions of people outside your countries precious borders. Informing yourself is never a backward step and even the act of examination itself is transformative.

[El Kabong]

No lets not play because it is not a game. I most certainly do not despise Christianity, that is your way of refusing to engage with anything in a meaningful or adult way. I have many friends who are practicing Christians and I have no interest in lecturing anyone, but you don't get to censor replies that reveal the inconsistencies of your own argument. It was you who said , and I quote

"I would rather burn my money, my home, and all possessions and salt the Earth on which I have planted so that nothing ever grows on it again than have it pay for sins I never committed."

So if you are going to invoke Biblical language and use the threats that your God's enemies used against his people, do not be surprised when it is pointed out to you how stupid and hugely unchristian such an argument is. And yes you are terrified, absolutely bricking it to be honest. Why else would you react in the way you have if it was not something you had a problem examining the merits of.

Have you read the Essay?

Your nation is already divided, so much so that a lot of that divisive bullshit has leaked out and is informing the mindset and actions of people outside your countries precious borders. Informing yourself is never a backward step and even the act of examination itself is transformative.

Who said anything about a game?

Ah yes, I forgot how eager you are to "engage in an adult way" on anything.

You've got Christian friends do you? I seem to recall a rather terse response when I told you of getting along well with my Jewish friends. I'll leave you and your Christian friends to pass judgment on me.

I know what I said I don't need it read back to me you halfassed court stenographer.

I used the language I used and I stand by it. Mine is mine and if YOU or anyone else wants to come and take it you're welcome to try.

Ta-Nehisi Coats is a bullshit artist. Do I need to read his article again? It's the only article he has ever written or will ever write. Same as Denilson says nothing different and will say nothing different.

You tell me the merits of self examination? You've NEVER not a fucking once wondered "Maybe it's ME? Maybe I'm the trouble?" .... I know I'm opinionated and strong willed, I've admitted my flaws, I'm not perfect, but really dude. Get yourself a soul and then search it.

[Beanz]

No lets not play because it is not a game. I most certainly do not despise Christianity, that is your way of refusing to engage with anything in a meaningful or adult way. I have many friends who are practicing Christians and I have no interest in lecturing anyone, but you don't get to censor replies that reveal the inconsistencies of your own argument. It was you who said , and I quote

"I would rather burn my money, my home, and all possessions and salt the Earth on which I have planted so that nothing ever grows on it again than have it pay for sins I never committed."

So if you are going to invoke Biblical language and use the threats that your God's enemies used against his people, do not be surprised when it is pointed out to you how stupid and hugely unchristian such an argument is. And yes you are terrified, absolutely bricking it to be honest. Why else would you react in the way you have if it was not something you had a problem examining the merits of.

Have you read the Essay?

Your nation is already divided, so much so that a lot of that divisive bullshit has leaked out and is informing the mindset and actions of people outside your countries precious borders. Informing yourself is never a backward step and even the act of examination itself is transformative.

Who said anything about a game?

Ah yes, I forgot how eager you are to "engage in an adult way" on anything.

You've got Christian friends do you? I seem to recall a rather terse response when I told you of getting along well with my Jewish friends. I'll leave you and your Christian friends to pass judgment on me.

I know what I said I don't need it read back to me you halfassed court stenographer.

I used the language I used and I stand by it. Mine is mine and if YOU or anyone else wants to come and take it you're welcome to try.

Ta-Nehisi Coats is a bullshit artist. Do I need to read his article again? It's the only article he has ever written or will ever write. Same as Denilson says nothing different and will say nothing different.

You tell me the merits of self examination? You've NEVER not a fucking once wondered "Maybe it's ME? Maybe I'm the trouble?" .... I know I'm opinionated and strong willed, I've admitted my flaws, I'm not perfect, but really dude. Get yourself a soul and then search it.

Lets start with this rather predictable response.


Not only is it not the only article he has ever written you are talking about a very celebrated and award winning writer who has authored books, been an editor , a columnist, screenplay writer, has written comic books and poetry, a professor in writing , journalist and distinguished writer in residence. This is a guy who is very good at his job and you can't handle it. Why?

Let us be honest and let me ask you, how hard are you having to work in order to discredit someone in order to avoid engaging with the subject or admitting you may actually learn something?


Like i said you are trembling mate

"Mine is mine and if YOU or anyone else wants to come and take it you're welcome to try. "

Those are not the words of a calm man.

What are you worried about?

Nobody is judging YOU. All this hyper sensitivity is like a front. For what?

When you are a nationalist and a Christian, in a country like yours or mine, you should know about the principles and values you are defending. However secular each country claims to be both Great Britain and America are founded on Judaeo-Christian principles. You can't just divorce that from the evolution of your laws or history. Reparation and justice is a huge part of both the old and new testament and lies behind so many of the laws that govern the democracy i live under and your Republic. You seem to want to fight even about things we have in common. In fact more so. It seems to offend you when people do not conform to stereotypes and you are required to operate on more than a superficial level.

You may be a stenographer or a lawyer or even a copper for all i know but you don't seem very able to look at anything but one side of any argument.

The merits of self examination are not just an individual process they are a way in which societies and communities learn and move on. I am sorry if you think everything is some YouTube soundbite quick fix self help meaningless platitude, but that is what happens when you refuse to engage.

You have not addressed anything but your own desire to never change. You are aligning yourself with the very thing you claim not to have anything in common with.

A victim mentality. It's not about YOU or YOUR MONEY or YOUR PROPERTY.

[El Kabong]

Lets start with this rather predictable response.


Not only is it not the only article he has ever written you are talking about a very celebrated and award winning writer who has authored books, been an editor , a columnist, screenplay writer, has written comic books and poetry, a professor in writing , journalist and distinguished writer in residence. This is a guy who is very good at his job and you can't handle it. Why?

Let us be honest and let me ask you, how hard are you having to work in order to discredit someone in order to avoid engaging with the subject or admitting you may actually learn something?


Like i said you are trembling mate

"Mine is mine and if YOU or anyone else wants to come and take it you're welcome to try. "

Those are not the words of a calm man.

What are you worried about?

Nobody is judging YOU. All this hyper sensitivity is like a front. For what?

When you are a nationalist and a Christian, in a country like yours or mine, you should know about the principles and values you are defending. However secular each country claims to be both Great Britain and America are founded on Judaeo-Christian principles. You can't just divorce that from the evolution of your laws or history. Reparation and justice is a huge part of both the old and new testament and lies behind so many of the laws that govern the democracy i live under and your Republic. You seem to want to fight even about things we have in common. In fact more so. It seems to offend you when people do not conform to stereotypes and you are required to operate on more than a superficial level.

You may be a stenographer or a lawyer or even a copper for all i know but you don't seem very able to look at anything but one side of any argument.

The merits of self examination are not just an individual process they are a way in which societies and communities learn and move on. I am sorry if you think everything is some YouTube soundbite quick fix self help meaningless platitude, but that is what happens when you refuse to engage.

You have not addressed anything but your own desire to never change. You are aligning yourself with the very thing you claim not to have anything in common with.

A victim mentality. It's not about YOU or YOUR MONEY or YOUR PROPERTY.

If it's predictable why bother?

"Not only is it not the only article he has ever written you are talking about a very celebrated and award winning writer" .... So you read that literally instead of as hyperbole, you're so smart. I'm saying Coates, like Denilson is a real 'Johnny One Note'. He plays the "white people evil, black people naive and bereft of any internal locus of control or personal responsibility" that is ALL he does and he gets awards from effete lefties who enjoy giving awards that showcase their social justice beliefs because it makes them feel superior to everyone else. It's an ego stroke nothing else.

"Nobody is judging you" .... "When you're a nationalist and a Christian" ....really? Nobody is judging me? It's all you do.

What is YOUR answer on American borders? Do we have a right to exist as a nation or don't we?

"you don't seem very able to look at anything but one side of any argument."... He posted with no sense of irony.

"The merits of self examination..." ...he again posts with no hint of irony. At the end of the day you're pleading with me to see things how YOU see them and I specifically don't do that because I believe you view the world in a sad and twisted manner where you have absolutely no agency in life, no say over anything, you're a victim acted upon by everyone else. You DREAM that you're a revolutionary while you do nothing but tilt at windmills Don Quixote. Like Ta-Nehisi Coates you fetishize white supremacy, if it's not an imminent threat who are you and what are you doing with your life?

So who are you and what are you doing with your life?

I addressed the issue as I see it. Reparations #1 will never happen and #2 they're a pandering so low it's unimaginable. It shows how desperate the Democrats are...but you want to make this about ME... I've never owned a slave not now not ever, I've never kept anyone from doing anything based on their race, but I am supposed to pay because I'm Christian? I am supposed to pay because I believe I'm not a perfect human? Great reasoning.

Now as I asked before "play it out, say Reparations happen. Then what?" It's not "a game" it's a question and you didn't answer as per usual.

You're super good at standing in judgment of others, you're piss poor at taking your own advice.