Reparations for slavery...... yay or nay?

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

Brought up the past as a point of reference to say we should move on and look ahead. A difficult concept to grasp, I know. Believe me, it taxes all of my patience and then some to have to explain to you the very elemental aspects of conversation. Not to mention this.......

You are the one that brought it up. You are the one that talked about.

What's there talk about ?

It's painfully obvious to anyone who engages you that you're not dealing with a full deck. But that's ok. We all have our issues. Yours is that you have very low reading comprehension... that you seem to be stuck on one gear regarding racism... and that you probably had a traumatic, life-altering experience as a child (not long ago) which scarred you forever.

Says the person whose last two topics he created were about racism but I'm stuck on racism ok.

That's your opinion. Fair point.

That's not an opinion that's a fact.

Black Americans need Reparations in the form of CASH PAYMENTS. Foundational Black Americans are owed cash payments. The federal government made MONEY from free Black labor.

However, if you think this is, in any way, going to improve racial relations in the U.S., you're sadly mistaken. I realize this don't mean shit to you.... but it does to intelligent people that actually live in the U.S.

OK. The floor is yours. What should be done to change systematic white supremacy / racism ?

Go on give me a good laugh

How resentful did I claim they are? Answer the question. You said "as resentful as you claim". That presumes a magnitude of resentfulness that I did not speak of. So HOW resentful did I claim they are? Either make sense with your words, or STFU.

resentful blacks

Your words. You claimed that, in fact, stated that black ppl are resentful.

Stop using the words "I suspect". One time it's "ALL white people are racists" and the next time it's "I suspect all white people are racists." You can't have it both ways. To use your words... make up your goddamn mind.

Yeah I suspect that all whites are white supremacist.

Why ?

Because I can't prove it.

So I suspect them all

Your assertions that "ALL white people this....... ALL white people that....." are childish, exaggerated, ludicrous, and obliterate any speck of credibility you might be able to build with people you address.

I've noticed this is a very common thing that white people do when I make comments about their group.

I get it.

You’ve been taught to think of blacks in monolithic terms and that you being white doesn't have much of anything to do with who and what you are. You think it’s just something coincidental about yourself, like having red hair or hazel eyes or a birthmark. You don’t see that being in that racial group has a lot to do with your life chances, psychology, emotions, reactions to others.

And so when I come into Saddo and say that you being white has 100% relevance in your life and thinking and behavior, you’re not used to thinking about yourself that way, and so you reject observations about “white people.” “Hey, I’M not like that!” “I’m a good person! Okay, I’m white, but just because I’m white doesn’t mean I do any of the bad things you’re claiming white people do. Look at me, I’m white, and I don’t do that!” And so on and all that stupid shit.

You're doing blacks a disservice by being the racist, deluded nutcase you are

Name calling again. Eh ?

We are getting desperate. But I suppose you know if you don't name call you will eventually run out of knowledge. But if you resort to mudslinging, it's become a problem of character, not smarts.

So it turns any discussion into a petty competition, just like it does in school-yards and it quickly deteriorates into a 'pushing and shoving' contest. If you're discussing something and you think you're opinion is superior for whatever reason, then show it, you lose the moral high ground when you return to an immature attitude that you should have grown out of a long time ago.

You believe you can vanquish someone by using forceful words but arguments stand or fall on their own merits, not on who made them and why. But I suppose directly quoting something an argument stands or falls on and showing why it is wrong, going after the facts and reasons that the main argument depends on, takes the most work for you. Right ?

because racism IS a real problem, and one that needs to be addressed.

It's been discussed for the past 400 years. There are tons of books on racism, tons of songs written on racism, tons of debates about racism, tons of films made about racism, tons of blogs about racism, tons of speakers who talk about racism, tons of demo's about racism, tons of black people who have been killed for standing up to racism.

What are you talking about ?

The talking stops now it's time for action and that starts with cash payments that black people are owed.

But addressed between intelligent whites and blacks. Not by deluded loons like yourself.

I'm not deluded. I just disagree with you.

Remember - I never personally insult people on Saddo.

Masculine men like me always stay in control. You got too much female over emotional energy

A huge part of the “anger” that you and other white racists feel towards black people and their “attitude” is that black people aren’t 100% “under their thumb" anymore.

They liked black people when they had to serve white people. They liked it when it was still correct to call black people any degrading name in the book. They liked black people when black people couldn’t do anything about how we were treated. They like black people who prove their inferiority by being poor and living in ghettos.

Any black person being like me who is happy, proud, or better off really burns you because black people should hate themselves and exist purely to reaffirm your racist ego.

But you still want a discussion ?

Well first off - You're going to have to humble yourself. White people have a lot to answer for, and racism won’t go away as long as white ppl are too afraid to just sit down, be honest, and look at why it’s still a problem and actually help find a solution.

As I've said in the past being nice to a black waitress doesn't you a medal.

I mean genuinely sitting down, looking at themselves and realizing that there’s a whole world out there beyond themselves and their culture, and they don’t have the right to pretend the entire universe was reserved for only them.

Humility.

As long as you just view the situation as a case of “Hateful black people” "Mad black people" "Crazy black people" "Loony black people" instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the privilege you (deep in side) are too scared to lose, you won’t have that “Kumbaya” they keep asking for.

But look : You can run a long and have that discussion with conservative black people who they put on CNN knowing that they're just putting a black face on white opinion and power and they'll start talking about black single motherhood and crime and black IQ. You know ? All them white supremacists talking points that you'd prefer the conversation to go in

[TitoFan]

You’ve been taught to think of blacks in monolithic terms

WHA?? Wow! If you don't see the incredible irony in what you just uttered, you're beyond help (but we already knew that).

Masculine men like me always stay in control.

WHA?? Oh c'mon..... stop it! Just stop it! You're killing me here. I should probably stop goading you. This is bordering on child abuse.

But you still want a discussion ?

No. Denilson. I don't. Want. A discussion.

You see, discussions are between mature adults. You are neither mature and are barely an intelligible adult.

Your defense is that you don't do "name-calling"? It's weak. You use it to cover up your penchant for, let's see......

1. Talking about places and peoples you've never been and you'll never know. First sign of arrogant ignorance.

2. Saying stupid shit like "ALL white people are racists." When you've talked to EVERY single fucking person on Earth, you're then qualified to make that statement. Till then, STFU.

3. "Foot in mouth" disease. (See the first quote above).


I argue with Lyle about guns. I argue with Beanz about transgenders. But I will never argue with you about race because you are a mental midget. A child.

Get back to me when you've reached emotional puberty.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

No. Denilson. I don't. Want. A discussion.

Well go on discuss away. I'm not stopping you

@TitoFan "Well actually no. I'm not discussing because your too stupid to discuss"

There is seven levels of disagreement



You operate at Level 0

I operate at level 6

You need to step your game up.

One of the main tactics white supremacists use and in fact many ppl use is to turn the tables by getting the black person angry. Once he is then you can say that it is pointless to continue.

You “win” and never had to address the substance of his argument!

The way white supremacist try to do this is to never take what they say seriously. Belittle it. Demand facts and figures, studies and surveys that back up what they say. You need evidence! You need proof! If their English is bad, jump on that. If their English is too good then they probably have a good education, so what are they complaining about?

You see, discussions are between mature adults. You are neither mature and are barely an intelligible adult.

Once again. Name calling. Does not reply to anything I said

Your defense is that you don't do "name-calling"? It's weak. You use it to cover up your penchant for, let's see

Once again. Name calling.

If whites are interested in helping with the cause of racism, they you must learn that it’s not easy. Discussions on racism will include harsh truths and extreme emotions.

So if whites want blacks to stop having so much disdain towards them for UNDERSTANDABLE reasons, then whites have to stop having disdain towards blacks for ILLOGICAL reasons.

1. Talking about places and peoples you've never been and you'll never know. First sign of arrogant ignorance.

OK. So name me a majority white country where there is no racial problem ?

2. Saying stupid shit like "ALL white people are racists." When you've talked to EVERY single fucking person on Earth, you're then qualified to make that statement. Till then, STFU.

I don't have to talk to every single white person on earth. Every white person that I know insists they don't have a racist bone in their body. The denial of racism is essential to it's maintenance.

All white people raised in a society where racism has been (and still is) so prevalent, will have internalized elements of racist thinking: certain beliefs, stereotypes, assumptions, and judgments about others and themselves. So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority and domination have been historically placed, then everyone in such places will have soaked up some of that conditioning.

I argue with Lyle about guns. I argue with Beanz about transgenders.

You can't connect the dots. Can you ? The gun is a racial issue. The transgender issue is racial

But I will never argue with you about race because you are a mental midget. A child.
Get back to me when you've reached emotional puberty.

It was turning into a "last person talking" contest anyway

To me. You know what you are ? You're an amateur gunslinger.

All you do is just aimlessly point & shoot and hope for the best. But whenever you try shooting that sh!t at me - I go for the heavy snark because in a full-on blast, the guy (or girl) with the bigger gun is more likely to leave a smoking bullet-ridden avatar on the ground.

And besides, at that point I know the convo is over, so might as well have some fun.

[TitoFan]

I have no racial hangups.

What's a racial hangup ?

You’ve been taught to think of blacks in monolithic terms

Masculine men like me always stay in control.

Man..... these are some true nuggets. Please keep them coming. You are entertaining as long as you understand your place here.