The Brexit Thread

[Beanz]

You are a fucking idiot . You just posted in defense of your ludicrous scaredy cat claims that the EU is planning an Army an article that finishes with this conclusion


Pigs will fly before the EU creates an army. European states can barely scrape together the cash to fund their contribution to NATO.

"An EU army marching out to war under Brussels’ command is a fantasy shared by Eurosceptics and a small number of federalists. Europe will continue down the road of defence cooperation in a halting way, but an EU army is only for armchair generals."


How many kinds of stoopid can you manage to be in one day?

It is even funnier coming from you.You fucking love war, beating your moobs chest at any possible opportunity about how you won the worldwith your military might. Britain is not held hostage by Europe, that is a pathetic feeble excuse for being a pansy like your bottle job Prez. The Pessimism from the pair of you is non-stop. I am not a neo-liberal or a globalist like you pairand you can't handle that fact. I love not only my country, but my county , my city , my community. You want the world to reflect you but I am quite happy to co-operate with those with whom i share a common purpose even though they are different. I don't fear people because they were born somewhere else. I don't try to make people be like me in the way that you and your fake pal do.

The EU for all it's bureaucratic faults has actually not only celebrated but facilitated that in helping to preserve the six other languages native to these islands some of which predate English. You just dumb EVERYTHING down in an attempt to prove how sophisticated you are in ways that are sad and lame. You want to make the world a cartoon at a time when you should be finally growing up.

[El Kabong]

You are a fucking idiot . You just posted in defense of your ludicrous scaredy cat claims that the EU is planning an Army an article that finishes with this conclusion


Pigs will fly before the EU creates an army. European states can barely scrape together the cash to fund their contribution to NATO.

"An EU army marching out to war under Brussels’ command is a fantasy shared by Eurosceptics and a small number of federalists. Europe will continue down the road of defence cooperation in a halting way, but an EU army is only for armchair generals."


How many kinds of stoopid can you manage to be in one day?

It is even funnier coming from you.You fucking love war, beating your moobs chest at any possible opportunity about how you won the worldwith your military might. Britain is not held hostage by Europe, that is a pathetic feeble excuse for being a pansy like your bottle job Prez. The Pessimism from the pair of you is non-stop. I am not a neo-liberal or a globalist like you pairand you can't handle that fact. I love not only my country, but my county , my city , my community. You want the world to reflect you but I am quite happy to co-operate with those with whom i share a common purpose even though they are different. I don't fear people because they were born somewhere else. I don't try to make people be like me in the way that you and your fake pal do.

The EU for all it's bureaucratic faults has actually not only celebrated but facilitated that in helping to preserve the six other languages native to these islands some of which predate English. You just dumb EVERYTHING down in an attempt to prove how sophisticated you are in ways that are sad and lame. You want to make the world a cartoon at a time when you should be finally growing up.

Again with the unsolicited vitriol, personal attacks and insults....whatever keeps you happy I guess.

Well Jean Claude Junker and Angela Merkel....you know, 2 people who don't carry any weight in the EU both called for the creation of such an army. But I mean I don't expect you to believe that it's not as if there's evidence of it, it's just my wild unfounded claims which are totally unsubstantiat.....




....ed. Oh I'm sorry you were saying something about that kind of thing never happening ever ever EVER.



Why what is that on that armored vehicle which is helping crush the yellow vest protests in France? Oh nothing, just an EU flag ....because you know it's not like they have control over certain things

If Britain isn't held hostage by the EU then why can't they leave the EU? Is it that they CAN leave but they'll be punished for leaving is that it? Because that sounds healthy.

[Beanz]

It is hardly unsolicited or vitriol it is a fact that you have so much hostility toward Europe and my family you think nothing of comparing the EU and ordinary German people to Hitler and the Nazis. It seems like an obsession for you.

I am not like you and Gandalf. I am not interested in playing identity politics or subscribing to your very media led view of a world thousands of miles away from you. I do not speak from a place of ignorance. The Gilet Jaunes are a very interesting case in point that you are completely misunderstanding in your rush to claim something that is protesting the very neoliberal values you subscribe to. Those protests are not about the left or the right but they are about protesting the disgusting wealth inequality you venerate. You and Gandalf have way more in common in your aspirations with Macron and his gold desk than you ever will with the Yellow Vests.

You will believe what you want to believe because your entire outlook is based on fear and negativity fueled by angry little ex pats who surround themselves with sycophants in order to avoid growing up. If their videos are what you gorge on and that is true of both you and Gandalf then no wonder your fantasy belief system is so skewed. I am not a huge EU fan however you have tried to spin it but I am a realist and a pragmatist. I also do not share your xenophobia.

So while you both froth at the mouth I am grateful that in the real world I have a yellow jacket under my car seat for when we go just across the water and visit France. A country that thanks to the EU is treating my Mrs Dad in a French hospital today.


At no cost thanks to a principle and model of healthcare that you would see destroyed in order to maximise profits for American companies. You do not act like our friends. Under Trump you are the kind of country we should be fearing way, way more then Europe or the EU. Your track record is appalling.


That does not mean i subscribe to a lot of the bureaucratic nonsense or the MIC upon which your own precious ultra capitalist hell depends in order to forever sustain profits, but it does mean that i can see that for the most part the good outweighs the bad. You are lecturing me from a country that has fucked over half the world in order to maintain a system you keep telling us is amazing as though you really give a fuck about Britain, a country you want to see smashed into a fuzzy play dough model of your own.

[El Kabong]

It is hardly unsolicited or vitriol it is a fact that you have so much hostility toward Europe and my family you think nothing of comparing the EU and ordinary German people to Hitler and the Nazis. It seems like an obsession for you.

I don't have hostility toward Europe I have hostility toward the EU....they aren't the same thing. Neither the EU leaders nor Angela Merkel are "ordinary German person(s)". I haven't mentioned your family directly at all, but man they sure do seem to get around.

I am not like you and Gandalf. I am not interested in playing identity politics or subscribing to your very media led view of a world thousands of miles away from you. I do not speak from a place of ignorance. The Gilet Jaunes are a very interesting case in point that you are completely misunderstanding in your rush to claim something that is protesting the very neoliberal values you subscribe to. Those protests are not about the left or the right but they are about protesting the disgusting wealth inequality you venerate. You and Gandalf have way more in common in your aspirations with Macron and his gold desk than you ever will with the Yellow Vests.

Agreed, you aren't like me in the slightest, nor are you like Gandalf and why you decided to name drop him here . You don't play identity politics? Then why keep calling me a bigot and a xenophobe and racist? How exactly am I misunderstanding the Gilet Jaunes? I guess the armored vehicle with the EU flag on it utilized to quell their protests was only trying to help them. I don't care for Macron at all. I didn't mind Sarkozy as much, but even he was a bit cozy with Obama whom I don't trust for various reasons.

You will believe what you want to believe because your entire outlook is based on fear and negativity fueled by angry little ex pats who surround themselves with sycophants in order to avoid growing up. If their videos are what you gorge on and that is true of both you and Gandalf then no wonder your fantasy belief system is so skewed. I am not a huge EU fan however you have tried to spin it but I am a realist and a pragmatist. I also do not share your xenophobia.

Again you bring up Gandalf which will only have him responding to these posts and wondering what the fuck is happening, but I suppose you know what you're doing.

So while you both froth at the mouth I am grateful that in the real world I have a yellow jacket under my car seat for when we go just across the water and visit France. A country that thanks to the EU is treating my Mrs Dad in a French hospital today.

Oh so you're a poser and why would her Dad go to France for treatment? Isn't the NHS totally tits and everyone should want to replicate it? That family, boy do they ever get around

At no cost thanks to a principle and model of healthcare that you would see destroyed in order to maximise profits for American companies. You do not act like our friends. Under Trump you are the kind of country we should be fearing way, way more then Europe or the EU. Your track record is appalling.

Yeah that "no cost healthcare model" doesn't really jive with the "Bring all the 'refugees' in model of immigration". Our track record like....ending the Korean War, not getting involved more in Syria? But hey it's ok I mean it's not like your nation attempted to aid and abet plotters to take out Trump....oh wait.

That does not mean i subscribe to a lot of the bureaucratic nonsense or the MIC upon which your own precious ultra capitalist hell depends in order to forever sustain profits, but it does mean that i can see that for the most part the good outweighs the bad. You are lecturing me from a country that has fucked over half the world in order to maintain a system you keep telling us is amazing as though you really give a fuck about Britain, a country you want to see smashed into a fuzzy play dough model of your own.

If that's what you get from what I post then I guess you either are viewing it from a skewed perspective or misunderstanding what I'm posting.


Good chat.

[Beanz]

It is the law in France to have a yellow vest in your car in case of breakdown you dullard . It is not posing it is something you do when France is not some abstract notion that you cry about.That is why the protesters wear them to protest about the poor being targeted by YOUR people. Just like when YOUR people implement a no deal Brexit the huge price increases in food will disproportionately affect the poor. Including the working poor that you and your pal Gandalf have attacked non stop while you regurgitate the crap the mainstream media tell you to, whilst ignoring the actual opinion of Brits that contradict those lies. And the Mrs Dad is in France because it is cheaper for pensioners to live there then here for much of the year, and he was taken ill while living there. He did not go there for treatment he was already there and a reciprocal agreement in place kept him safe. I get how you don't want hear anything positive or to learn anything about Europe or Britain because you know it all. You think it is weird to travel to countries on your doorstep precisely because you seem to be a confirmed racist and bigot.

Many of the refugees there are in the world are there because your country and my country bombed the shit out of them or sold the weapons that bombed the shit out of them. They are not the main users of the NHS. The NHS is staffed by many immigrants and always has been. You may be disgusted by that just like your economic migrant pal in SK but I am not ashamed of that I am proud of it. I am not a naive apologist like you and NO i do not play identity politics that is why you get so frustrated. You invent a position for me to inhabit because your own outlook is so narrow that is how you see the world. Fuck me I feel sorry for you.

To be honest why would any Brit give a flying fuck what YOU think about Brexit and the EU? Some American bloke in a call centre who thinks he has the answers to the UK's woes

[El Kabong]

It is the law in France to have a yellow vest in your car in case of breakdown you dullard . It is not posing it is something you do when France is not some abstract notion that you cry about.That is why the protesters wear them to protest about the poor being targeted by YOUR people. Just like when YOUR people implement a no deal Brexit the huge price increases in food will disproportionately affect the poor. Including the working poor that you and your pal Gandalf have attacked non stop while you regurgitate the crap the mainstream media tell you to, whilst ignoring the actual opinion of Brits that contradict those lies. And the Mrs Dad is in France because it is cheaper for pensioners to live there then here for much of the year, and he was taken ill while living there. He did not go there for treatment he was already there and a reciprocal agreement in place kept him safe. I get how you don't want hear anything positive or to learn anything about Europe or Britain because you know it all. You think it is weird to travel to countries on your doorstep precisely because you seem to be a confirmed racist and bigot.

Many of the refugees there are in the world are there because your country and my country bombed the shit out of them or sold the weapons that bombed the shit out of them. They are not the main users of the NHS. The NHS is staffed by many immigrants and always has been. You may be disgusted by that just like your economic migrant pal in SK but I am not ashamed of that I am proud of it. I am not a naive apologist like you and NO i do not play identity politics that is why you get so frustrated. You invent a position for me to inhabit because your own outlook is so narrow that is how you see the world. Fuck me I feel sorry for you.

To be honest why would any Brit give a flying fuck what YOU think about Brexit and the EU? Some American bloke in a call centre who thinks he has the answers to the UK's woes

Actually they're wearing the vests because the government has become a bit micro-managey in that they (the government) demand by law that those vests be carried in every car. But by no means is that the crux of their argument with the government. Yes the people are upset about money, and no it's not "my people" hurting them, it's the EU and their massive taxation on things like GAS...see where we come back to the yellow vest/car thing? Brexit will hurt Europe too? That's odd because here I was being told it was only going to hurt Britain, huh, funny how that seems to work...and a no deal Brexit as well, would hurt France specifically...what are the odds . Again you mention Gandalf...what good does that do for you? You have a hard enough time focusing on 1 discussion, why bring in more people?

while you regurgitate the crap the mainstream media tell you to

....yyyyeah, because I totally do that

You think it is weird to travel to countries on your doorstep precisely because you seem to be a confirmed racist and bigot.

I think it's odd to travel specifically for medical reasons when you've got "The greatest healthcare known to man" ....yeah I find that curious. You don't see me going to Canada or Mexico to see doctors and you're quite unlikely to unless the United States decides to have socialized healthcare and thereby ration care.


Yes yes all refugees and immigrants are pure and holy and nothing but good OR they are the problems WE America and Britain have created and so we shall reap the seed we personally sowed. Yeah that seems a bit of a supremacist take if you ask me, but hey you're supposed to be calling ME that instead of me suggesting you don't know that you're doing that. Oopsy poopsie.

You invent a position for me to inhabit because

Well #1 IF I did that it would be due to your trouble in answering direct questions
#2 Aren't you doing that exact same thing to me right now?


Oh so I'm a "fat, trustafarian, call center worker"....I'm trying to think of the other things you've accused me of being but they're just so all over the place it's hard to keep track, but keep it up, it's like reading a MadLib filled out by a retard.

[Beanz]

It is the law in France to have a yellow vest in your car in case of breakdown you dullard . It is not posing it is something you do when France is not some abstract notion that you cry about.That is why the protesters wear them to protest about the poor being targeted by YOUR people. Just like when YOUR people implement a no deal Brexit the huge price increases in food will disproportionately affect the poor. Including the working poor that you and your pal Gandalf have attacked non stop while you regurgitate the crap the mainstream media tell you to, whilst ignoring the actual opinion of Brits that contradict those lies. And the Mrs Dad is in France because it is cheaper for pensioners to live there then here for much of the year, and he was taken ill while living there. He did not go there for treatment he was already there and a reciprocal agreement in place kept him safe. I get how you don't want hear anything positive or to learn anything about Europe or Britain because you know it all. You think it is weird to travel to countries on your doorstep precisely because you seem to be a confirmed racist and bigot.

Many of the refugees there are in the world are there because your country and my country bombed the shit out of them or sold the weapons that bombed the shit out of them. They are not the main users of the NHS. The NHS is staffed by many immigrants and always has been. You may be disgusted by that just like your economic migrant pal in SK but I am not ashamed of that I am proud of it. I am not a naive apologist like you and NO i do not play identity politics that is why you get so frustrated. You invent a position for me to inhabit because your own outlook is so narrow that is how you see the world. Fuck me I feel sorry for you.

To be honest why would any Brit give a flying fuck what YOU think about Brexit and the EU? Some American bloke in a call centre who thinks he has the answers to the UK's woes

Actually they're wearing the vests because the government has become a bit micro-managey in that they (the government) demand by law that those vests be carried in every car. But by no means is that the crux of their argument with the government. Yes the people are upset about money, and no it's not "my people" hurting them, it's the EU and their massive taxation on things like GAS...see where we come back to the yellow vest/car thing? Brexit will hurt Europe too? That's odd because here I was being told it was only going to hurt Britain, huh, funny how that seems to work...and a no deal Brexit as well, would hurt France specifically...what are the odds . Again you mention Gandalf...what good does that do for you? You have a hard enough time focusing on 1 discussion, why bring in more people?

while you regurgitate the crap the mainstream media tell you to

....yyyyeah, because I totally do that

You think it is weird to travel to countries on your doorstep precisely because you seem to be a confirmed racist and bigot.

I think it's odd to travel specifically for medical reasons when you've got "The greatest healthcare known to man" ....yeah I find that curious. You don't see me going to Canada or Mexico to see doctors and you're quite unlikely to unless the United States decides to have socialized healthcare and thereby ration care.


Yes yes all refugees and immigrants are pure and holy and nothing but good OR they are the problems WE America and Britain have created and so we shall reap the seed we personally sowed. Yeah that seems a bit of a supremacist take if you ask me, but hey you're supposed to be calling ME that instead of me suggesting you don't know that you're doing that. Oopsy poopsie.

You invent a position for me to inhabit because

Well #1 IF I did that it would be due to your trouble in answering direct questions
#2 Aren't you doing that exact same thing to me right now?


Oh so I'm a "fat, trustafarian, call center worker"....I'm trying to think of the other things you've accused me of being but they're just so all over the place it's hard to keep track, but keep it up, it's like reading a MadLib filled out by a retard.

You are not just an idiot you think you are an expert on everything. Like I already said I do not speak from a position of ignorance. That doesn't make me an expert but i know when to listen or ask rather than trust some third hand MSM accounts.

I know full well why they wear yellow vests because of the fuel rise taxes etc but also because i have friends here and over there who have put boots on the ground because either they live there, they have friends and family there and so visit often or because in my brothers case the whole Gilet Jaunes movement formed the basis of several essays which formed one of his research proposals. But no go ahead you tell me from fucking thousands of miles away how you and Gandalf, who laughingly actually post videos from Murdoch and The Sun and laud Boris and the Billionaire MSM that you fucking lap up when it suits you, have the inside edge and don't just regurgitate the propaganda from the mainstream media. The whole Gilet Jaunes movement is an organic thing in a long tradition that include everyone across the spectrum from Fascists to Leftists and everything inbetween. A truly libertarian idea that would stick right in the craw of your identity politics driven agenda. Much like the anti-fascist movement or the Hong Kong riots you can not comprehend a broad coalition of common ordinary people working together because you and Gandalf want to be part of the Elite. You proclaim yourselves as special constantly reminding us how your numpty heavily re-dacted version of the West is Best and how you are both flying the flag for white kids with guns..security guards with guns, cops with guns, armies to shoot protestors with guns etc

When actual evidence of a conspiracy against the British people is presented to either of you it is of no interest unless is supports your blinkered and backwards racist agenda. Instead you actively promote the work of Cummings, Banks, Farrage, Murdoch, the Barclay Brothers etc.

(And again as evidence that neither of you even read let alone listen to anyone else but yourselves and your inane repetitive bullshit about welfare and single mothers and immigrants and white rights for terminally dull virtue signally hipsters, my Mrs Dad did not travel to France for treatment at all. He has been there for months and that got taken ill.)

It is amazing how a pair of Liverpool 'fans' like you two, neither of whom come from or live in the city are so easily led by Boris and Murdoch who both accused 'pissed up' Liverpool fans of causing tragedy, and yet you think you are sticking up for the average working bloke or that you both dare to suggest Boris represents them. Boris? another elite prick from fucking Eton and the Bullingdon club.

George is on the button here and so is the Taxi Driver that Gandalf threw under a bus when he spoke up for the working poor to much and refused to smear Corbyn with lies ( notice how Gandalf stopped posting his stuff when Molyneuax and Peterson told him who was censored and not censored ? much like you with McInnes and Fox and the fucked up QAnon shit that you repeat without ever engaging your brain)