Let's talk boxing promoters.... the scourge of boxing today

[TitoFan]

Yep, all you non-mug "fans" always know what's best for boxing and how to "fix" it. You're all experts (especially with hindsight), know exactly what matches people should watch and what is pointless.

In the past few weeks, off the top of my head we've had

Spence-Porter (FOTY candidate)
Fury-Otto (almost upset of the year)
Loma-Campbell (P4P no.1 / two elite lightweights)
Kovalev-Yarde (almost another upset)
Browne-Pascal (big veteran upset)
Ramirez-Hooker (140 Unification / FOTY-ish)

Did you enjoy any? Watch any? Know who they are? "Back in the 70s, regular defences, best against best" ..... do me a favour, fake arse fans (no disrespect)

Of course I watched several (on You Tube) as I cannot get to see fight and know who most are except the likes of Otto. Nobody is saying fun fights do not get made, but more that people like Fury do have somewhat weak resumes due to padding, and though upsets can happen, the padding happens to keep the money flowing and to protect the money man. That is why we have to respect fighters who do fight excellent opponents regularly and it should be encouraged more. Wilder was the same for years and people were getting fed up. You think Ali would have dodged anyone like they do today? There is some padding, but he fought everyone. Manny Pac too for a period. You cannot argue with that many top fighters on a resume. That is greatness and I do not care about it being a business or doing the least for the most. Give it your all and that's enough. Too much is given to the 0 and for me that is a no.

So your real problem is with fighters. At the end of the day they sign the dotted line.

I'm not criticising anyone but it sums up the entire thread. Boxing fans are like spoilt children, never satisfied, always demanding the next one. Even when the business has been explained the reaction is - I don't care about the business side, I know best how to run boxing, it should be like this. There's 30 registered boxing promotions happening today, hardly any will have TV coverage/sponsorship/media coverage. There's a world outside of Bob, Al, Eddie, Oscar and the superstars they invest in.

Every single era of boxing is littered with fights that should, would, could have been made. Every single era filled with great champions slated for facing "bums." From boxing's inception, it's demise has been predicted.

Perhaps some fighters do want to avoid challenges as well as promoters. I certainly look at Mayweather that way in his final decade. I also think others are carefully managed and the promoters lay down the money, sort out the contracts, and are of course at times looking out for fighters, but we do clearly miss out on a lot of fights because promoters won't let fights happen and do want to prolong that investment. It inevitably means easy fights or avoiding fights.

I don't think fans are spoiled in the slightest. What other sport can have fans forking out like boxing has them do? It is hardly a cheap hobby to follow. In saying that I do wish they would give me the option as some fights I would love to see properly. Kovalev-Canelo will no doubt be a lot of fun and I enjoy the fact that they are actually doing that. Should be more like that.

The elite fighters are spoiled more than the fans. Mayweather was taking the mickey more often than not towards the end. The fans were not spoilt.

Right on the button. But then again everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if someone wants to think that fans are "spoiled children" for wanting only the best matchups, I guess that is their god-given right. If someone would rather concentrate on the business side of boxing, since we're reduced to little else, then I guess that's fine as well.

All I know is that boxing is the only sport where the best don't always face the best, and all because of the greediness and outsized egos of a small handful of sleazy promoters. When two fighters at the top of their game won't face each other because the promoters are haggling over one percentage of the proceeds, the last thing I want to hear is some finance major giving lectures on Finance 101. Not interested. I'll choose to continue sports as entertainment. Entertainment we pay top dollar for.

Boxing is the only sport when, if and when the best finally face the best, it's way beyond their peak years and we're all reduced to "what ifs."

If there was such a thing as reincarnation (which I don't believe in), I'd come back as a boxing promoter because it's the perfect setup. Rob the public of their hard-earned money.... give them shitty or expired product.... watch them coming back for more.... and have them arguing over the "business side" of boxing.

Hahaha! Priceless. Actually..... what is priceless is calling fans spoiled children because they get upset when major fights are withheld while promoters try to "one-up" each other. Priceless.....