Can ANYBODY in history defeat 1967 Ali?

[Dark Lord Al]

Yes Clay was at the top of his game in his own time.
As Tyson was the best in his time, Lewis the best of his time etc.

[Mark TKO]

Why is the name change an issue.

A man has the right to change his name to whatever he wants to change it to. And if a man wants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his wishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!

[Dark Lord Al]

Why is the name change an issue.

A man has the right to change his name to whatever he wants to change it to. And if a man wants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his wishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!

I have no issue at all , I have given my opinions on who would beat him.

[Mark TKO]

Why is the name change an issue.

A man has the right to change his name to whatever he wants to change it to. And if a man wants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his wishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!

I have no issue at all , I have given my opinions on who would beat him.

I was just trying to get one of my favourite Coming to America quotes in to be fair

[Primo Carnera]

Why is the name change an issue.

A man has the right to change his name to whatever he wants to change it to. And if a man wants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his wishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!

I have no issue at all , I have given my opinions on who would beat him.

I was just trying to get one of my favourite Coming to America quotes in to be fair

Fair play, that went right over my head. One of the funniest film sketches ever.

[Gandalf]

I think prime Tyson is a much better fighter than prime Frazier. Tyson would land because he has the speed as well as the great upper body and head movement. He would be able to bust Ali up IMO. Foreman and Shavers hit hard, but Tyson did it from both hands and in combination. Quite overwhelming. I can see Ali on his bike all night, but having his own flurry moments. He couldn't stop Tyson as Tyson had a good chin.

I maintain that Vitali would have been good as his size was something different. He would get hit, but he threw 80 punches a round and could punch. Ali would have issues with the range. Ali was more of a David Haye in terms of height and build. Wlad was technically better, but bad stamina and delicate. I always enjoyed Vitali. He just seemed like such a tough bastard. Shame about the Lewis fight as he was winning that too. Lewis was okay, but I find him overrated. Easily outboxed by Bruno, bad stoppage losses, and a bit robotic. I can see Ali doing well there as Lewis was not that out of range.

[Fatboxingfan]

Great points espically about Ali could not stop Tyson.

[Master]

I maintain that Vitali would have been good as his size was something different. He would get hit, but he threw 80 punches a round and could punch. Ali would have issues with the range. Ali was more of a David Haye in terms of height and build. Wlad was technically better, but bad stamina and delicate. I always enjoyed Vitali. He just seemed like such a tough bastard. Shame about the Lewis fight as he was winning that too. Lewis was okay, but I find him overrated. Easily outboxed by Bruno, bad stoppage losses, and a bit robotic. I can see Ali doing well there as Lewis was not that out of range.

It is strange you call Lennox Lewis robotic when Vitali was far stiffer and slower. Sure Lennox had poor spells in fights but he generally came out on top. Wlad became a better champion than Vitali who was injury prone. If Ali was going to have trouble it would be to Wlad who was more fluid and had speed.