The Brexit Thread

**Gandalf** · 10-22-2019 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Gandalf

Yes, with no FPTP you would see the collapse of the 2 monopoly parties very quickly in todays climate. You make the people mad and they become unpredictable. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.

The First Past The Post system is the best system as you get a stable and secure government any PR system leads to weak and smaller/extreme parties holding too much power.

But they would resist this more ably by coalition.

**Master** · 10-22-2019 10:28 AM

The last coalition government was a disaster and the Lib Dem took the blame and got roasted at the general election.

**Gandalf** · 10-22-2019 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Master

The last coalition government was a disaster and the Lib Dem took the blame and got roasted at the general election.

The same could happen with PR. You do fine and you stay. You screw up and you are out. FPTP automatically discounts many votes in somewhat 'safe' seats. You end up with a crazy situation where UKIP had millions of votes but little representation. It is unfair and every vote should matter.

**Gandalf** · 10-22-2019 12:51 PM

2015

Tories 11 million
Labour 9 million
UKIP nearly 4 million

Yet....

Tories 306 seats
Labour 258 seats
UKIP 1 seat

People happy with that don't have much respect for democracy IMO.