Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
Britain is not starting a war here Lyle, it's nothing like the treasonous actions of the confederate states.
Well war in situations like this is never the goal, it's never the INTENT to just start a war. There are a lot of things at stake economic and political power, and so yeah while at present it's not bellicose, there's no telling where this leads if the will of the people keeps being denied. Was World War 1 a desired event? Was World War 2 sought out by all parties? Were the Napoleonic Wars something everyone was clamoring for? War is not typically the best first option in situations like this, but given the stakes at play.....I wouldn't be shocked at increasing political violence because just looking at it the optics are not the best regardless of the reporting right now you seem to have the will of the British people (Remoaners excluded) vs the greed for money and power from the EU. And as with certain historical events, the EU seeks to be punitive with Britain....The EU wishes to bring Britain to heel one way or the other and I'm just going to take a wild guess that that kind of attitude won't sit well with the Brits.......or hell what do I know maybe the British people have changed and are more open to accept Europeans as their masters.


But hey, I'm not British, go ahead have another referendum, push Remain yet again, try and split the Brexit vote to have a surefire win...knock yourselves out. See what comes from your tone deaf attitudes. I am certain you'll not only get your way, but you'll achieve a lasting peace in the process.


I'm sure you could fill several libraries with what you think you know about what caused the secession of Confederate states....and as per usual you'd be wrong in the most arrogant of ways.

There's not going to be a war Lyle, there's going to be a very nasty divorce and the idiots who lied to the British public during the referendum campaign ("we hold all the cards" when it comes to negotitating a free trade agreement, we'll be able to negotiate one before we leave the EU etc etc etc etc) will be given a decade long arsekicking by the EU twenty seven. Britain will get absolutely scalped in the negotiations. The British government will become less popular than the clap when the public eventually cotton on to the extent that they've been bullshitted. Just wait till the EU start picking off all the best businesses in Britain.

All you fucking weird southerners have these permanent paraniod ideas about wars starting and feelings of submissiveness/inadequacy whatever it is. Everything comes down to either there's going to be a war or you're going to be dominated by somebody much stronger than you are. You still can't make a single coherent argument about how Britain was in any way subjugated or dominated by Germany when a member of the EU, you just keep rambling on about domination and war. Fucking weirdo.

And I don't have to speculate why the traitor states seceeded Lyle, I can read their own words at the time.Just one of endless examples:


A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_missec.asp