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    Kennedy was very fascinating. I like that he was high on a cocktail of drugs while dealing with a situation that could have ended up in all out end of times war. Screwing Russian agents I mean the dude was incredible and the press actually covered for him. I have read there was a good chance that shit would get out if he ran for a second term but alas we will never know. We could probably go back and find many political or personal views of why each president who ever sat in office was the worst “at the time they were in office” it seems history is the proper judge as it’s difficult to filter out the bias for an sitting president. So no, I find nothing strange or bad going on, there is a reason why trump got elected, perhaps history will look at that someday

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Kennedy was very fascinating. I like that he was high on a cocktail of drugs while dealing with a situation that could have ended up in all out end of times war. Screwing Russian agents I mean the dude was incredible and the press actually covered for him. I have read there was a good chance that shit would get out if he ran for a second term but alas we will never know. We could probably go back and find many political or personal views of why each president who ever sat in office was the worst “at the time they were in office” it seems history is the proper judge as it’s difficult to filter out the bias for an sitting president. So no, I find nothing strange or bad going on, there is a reason why trump got elected, perhaps history will look at that someday


    I would've preferred JFK on that alleged cocktail of drugs than Trump, when faced with something as delicate and precarious as the Cuban Missile Crisis. But to each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Kennedy was very fascinating. I like that he was high on a cocktail of drugs while dealing with a situation that could have ended up in all out end of times war. Screwing Russian agents I mean the dude was incredible and the press actually covered for him. I have read there was a good chance that shit would get out if he ran for a second term but alas we will never know. We could probably go back and find many political or personal views of why each president who ever sat in office was the worst “at the time they were in office” it seems history is the proper judge as it’s difficult to filter out the bias for an sitting president. So no, I find nothing strange or bad going on, there is a reason why trump got elected, perhaps history will look at that someday


    I would've preferred JFK on that alleged cocktail of drugs than Trump, when faced with something as delicate and precarious as the Cuban Missile Crisis. But to each his own.
    It’s documented the dude had horrible back pain and took painkillers. His back was really fucked it caused him to completely blow one of his meetings in Russia. The amphetamines I believe we’re for Addison's disease although I don’t recall of hand. I’m not knocking him for that, he had legitimate illness and it was prior to the time so much study was done on the effects of these drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Kennedy was very fascinating. I like that he was high on a cocktail of drugs while dealing with a situation that could have ended up in all out end of times war. Screwing Russian agents I mean the dude was incredible and the press actually covered for him. I have read there was a good chance that shit would get out if he ran for a second term but alas we will never know. We could probably go back and find many political or personal views of why each president who ever sat in office was the worst “at the time they were in office” it seems history is the proper judge as it’s difficult to filter out the bias for an sitting president. So no, I find nothing strange or bad going on, there is a reason why trump got elected, perhaps history will look at that someday


    I would've preferred JFK on that alleged cocktail of drugs than Trump, when faced with something as delicate and precarious as the Cuban Missile Crisis. But to each his own.
    It’s documented the dude had horrible back pain and took painkillers. His back was really fucked it caused him to completely blow one of his meetings in Russia. The amphetamines I believe we’re for Addison's disease although I don’t recall of hand. I’m not knocking him for that, he had legitimate illness and it was prior to the time so much study was done on the effects of these drugs.

    Yes he did have terrible, well documented back pains. Reportedly caused by a football injury back in college, and worsened by his boat-related incident during the war. When you think about it, it's admirable he did what he did, as the back problems were severe and JFK had had spinal surgeries and also been hospitalized for intestinal ailments. Back then, medicine wasn't what it is today, so it must have been excruciating for him to perform his duties as President and deal with the mega scrutiny he had to endure during those short years. I can't think of too many "dime-a-dozen" politicians today that would be able to perform up to that level under those circumstance.

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    Want to know the REAL trouble....JFK was a Democrat back then. Today where would someone with his views fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Want to know the REAL trouble....JFK was a Democrat back then. Today where would someone with his views fit?
    Definitely. He was a bit conservative with taxes, got rid of the 90% rate, strong on military, literally thinking of launching the bomb figuring we would lose 30% or so of the US but wipe out Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
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    Want to know the REAL trouble....JFK was a Democrat back then. Today where would someone with his views fit?
    Definitely. He was a bit conservative with taxes, got rid of the 90% rate, strong on military, literally thinking of launching the bomb figuring we would lose 30% or so of the US but wipe out Russia

    Precisely what he DIDN'T do though did he.

    Regardless of the unbearable pressures being put on him by the hawkish U.S. military leaders of the time.

    But go ahead and put him down, if it helps prop up the human trash bin that inhabits the White House today.

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