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    Sure why not. Make it happen Kirk
    In that case Obama was legally justified in investigating Trump. They can stop the investigation into the investigators, they were all acting legally with presidential authority.
    Well go take that to DC, try it out, see how it works for you.

    If Trump is allowed to investigate people he thinks are corrupt then surely Obama is too?

    Sure thing Kirk, go for it.
    Did Kirk ever address that trump is not a Russian agent? Or like the typical trump hater did he just move on to this go nowhere impeachment like everyone else.

    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.
    Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong and I did not lose that bet.

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    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.
    Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong and I did not lose that bet.

    The bet wasn't that Mueller couldn't indict Trump for conspiring with Russia. The bet is whether Russia hacked the DNC servers. And you've just confirmed that you lost the bet. If Mueller not having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that what you thought the bet was over -- Trump conspiring with the Russians -- was true means that I lost the bet then Mueller having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC servers -- which he does -- means that by your own metric I won the bet. You can now finally pay the money you owe to those two find organisations. $50 each and a further $40 split when Flynn is sentenced soon.

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    If you bet at least $100 I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds that I'm right and you're wrong and the Mueller report proves all the emails were hacked by Russia. And I'll pay the money directly to you. You can make a million dollars by betting a hundred if you really believe the Seth Rich thing.



    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...87#post1517087

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    So we agree that if Trump can order investigations into people Trump thinks are corrupt then so could Obama when he was president?
    I'd ask about if the investigations were properly predicated, but then you'll squeal about it so I'm just going to let it play out. FBI Director Wray addressed the house today and referenced FISA abuse...so we'll see what happens there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    The bet wasn't that Mueller couldn't indict Trump for conspiring with Russia. The bet is whether Russia hacked the DNC servers. And you've just confirmed that you lost the bet. If Mueller not having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that what you thought the bet was over -- Trump conspiring with the Russians -- was true means that I lost the bet then Mueller having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC servers -- which he does -- means that by your own metric I won the bet. You can now finally pay the money you owe to those two find organisations. $50 each and a further $40 split when Flynn is sentenced soon.
    The FBI never had the servers they had what CROWDSTRIKE gave them....not like they'd give a fair shake anyway. But yeah this is why you lost the bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If you bet at least $100 I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds that I'm right and you're wrong and the Mueller report proves all the emails were hacked by Russia. And I'll pay the money directly to you. You can make a million dollars by betting a hundred if you really believe the Seth Rich thing.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...87#post1517087
    Yeah, I'm well aware and THE guy who ran WikiLeaks at that time said he had 0, nil, nada, nothing, come from Russia or Russian assets. So when he testifies OR the actual server is produced, then and only then will the case be 100% settled. Sorry if you're disappointed by that.

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    So we agree that if Trump can order investigations into people Trump thinks are corrupt then so could Obama when he was president?
    I'd ask about if the investigations were properly predicated, but then you'll squeal about it so I'm just going to let it play out. FBI Director Wray addressed the house today and referenced FISA abuse...so we'll see what happens there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    The bet wasn't that Mueller couldn't indict Trump for conspiring with Russia. The bet is whether Russia hacked the DNC servers. And you've just confirmed that you lost the bet. If Mueller not having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that what you thought the bet was over -- Trump conspiring with the Russians -- was true means that I lost the bet then Mueller having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC servers -- which he does -- means that by your own metric I won the bet. You can now finally pay the money you owe to those two find organisations. $50 each and a further $40 split when Flynn is sentenced soon.
    The FBI never had the servers they had what CROWDSTRIKE gave them....not like they'd give a fair shake anyway. But yeah this is why you lost the bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If you bet at least $100 I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds that I'm right and you're wrong and the Mueller report proves all the emails were hacked by Russia. And I'll pay the money directly to you. You can make a million dollars by betting a hundred if you really believe the Seth Rich thing.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...87#post1517087
    Yeah, I'm well aware and THE guy who ran WikiLeaks at that time said he had 0, nil, nada, nothing, come from Russia or Russian assets. So when he testifies OR the actual server is produced, then and only then will the case be 100% settled. Sorry if you're disappointed by that.

    By your own metric you lost the bet. And once again, there was never a single server. There were dozens of servers, most of them in huge cloud systems. It would be impossible to physically remove the servers. The FBI were given a mirror of the whole system which is impossible to alter without being obvious to investigators. Of course the FBI are all corrupt as well aren't they. Anyway, I offered you a bet knowing your "intensive research" into this was watching Q videos on youtube and that you wouldn't have even read the four page summary of the Mueller report that the DOJ sent out. Which is why I felt secure in offering you a thousand to one odds knowing what I was betting on had just been confirmed by the Trump DOJ. Idiot.

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    Keep singing that same old song Kirkland and I'll keep telling you the same as I always have.

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    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.
    Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong and I did not lose that bet.
    If Mueller couldn't prove something beyond reasonable doubt means I lost the bet then by your own determinant if Mueller could prove it beyond reasonable doubt then I win the bet. And Mueller has proof beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC. So pay up.

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    Oh and well done Mitt Romney. I would say history will be very kind to you for what you did but it depends who ends up writing the history books, doesn't it. Not looking too clever on that front recently.

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    If Mueller couldn't prove something beyond reasonable doubt means I lost the bet then by your own determinant if Mueller could prove it beyond reasonable doubt then I win the bet. And Mueller has proof beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC. So pay up.
    you said and I quote "hacked all the emails" keyword there being ALL as in 100%....did he prove that? No, no he didn't. Thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Oh and well done Mitt Romney. I would say history will be very kind to you for what you did but it depends who ends up writing the history books, doesn't it. Not looking too clever on that front recently.
    Yes it's quite bipolar recently in 2012 Mitt was giving people cancer and stuffing women in binders and now he's a REEEEEEEEEsistance hero

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    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?

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    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?
    I think it looks fairly certain unless they crash the economy. The Democrats are sabotaging themselves constantly. Not sure what that is all about but let them build their sandcastles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?
    The acquittal was a foregone conclusion from the outset as the votes for removal were obviously not there. Closest thing was having maybe about half dozen Republicans coming out calling his conduct regarding the call in question either shameful, wrong, problematic, not good and not perfect. Basic lip service and a finger wagging with only 1 Republican voting for his removal. Personally I find critical thinking and standing on convictions against the masses to be admirable and speaks to a mans character. I think had an actual Republican alternative found backing and all primaries allowing actual competition within the party an Independent voter swing would have been big along with others wanting off the Trump train. As an Independent I certainly would have looked at a Republican before a few of the current Dems save maybe for Buttigieg. I'll eat dirt and drive a nail through my toe before voting for a Sanders. I think Bidens time is ticking within the Dem voters base and he'll call it a day shortly. Trump certainly has the momentum at present and has managed to reach an all time approval rating of 49% of voters. But Trump gonna Trump and any falter in the strong economy which is the literal spine of his reelection his base may be chipped away at as it's certainly not massively expanding. Time will tell but I guarantee this will be the ugliest election year in our history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    If Mueller couldn't prove something beyond reasonable doubt means I lost the bet then by your own determinant if Mueller could prove it beyond reasonable doubt then I win the bet. And Mueller has proof beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC. So pay up.
    you said and I quote "hacked all the emails" keyword there being ALL as in 100%....did he prove that? No, no he didn't. Thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Oh and well done Mitt Romney. I would say history will be very kind to you for what you did but it depends who ends up writing the history books, doesn't it. Not looking too clever on that front recently.
    Yes it's quite bipolar recently in 2012 Mitt was giving people cancer and stuffing women in binders and now he's a REEEEEEEEEsistance hero

    Mueller has evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the DNC system was hacked by the Russians. They have it down to the individual Russians who did the whole thing. The evidence showing they did it was all checked by a team of specialised national security/intel lawyers at the DOJ and they then issued the indictments. Everybody responsible for the hacking has been charged and they're all Russian intel guys.

    Romney got mocked for the binders full of women thing because it was eminently mockable. It became a meme because it's a bizarre turn of phrase and fed into the whole animatronic corporate droid personality that Romney has. But here he did something noble. He actually put his oath to defend the Constitution above his Senate career unlike the rest of the GOP. It's quite possible for even complete scumbags, which Romney is not, to do something good at some point in their lives and there's no contradiction or incongruity in pointing out when somebody does something good.

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