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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.
    Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong and I did not lose that bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.
    Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong and I did not lose that bet.

    The bet wasn't that Mueller couldn't indict Trump for conspiring with Russia. The bet is whether Russia hacked the DNC servers. And you've just confirmed that you lost the bet. If Mueller not having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that what you thought the bet was over -- Trump conspiring with the Russians -- was true means that I lost the bet then Mueller having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC servers -- which he does -- means that by your own metric I won the bet. You can now finally pay the money you owe to those two find organisations. $50 each and a further $40 split when Flynn is sentenced soon.

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    If you bet at least $100 I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds that I'm right and you're wrong and the Mueller report proves all the emails were hacked by Russia. And I'll pay the money directly to you. You can make a million dollars by betting a hundred if you really believe the Seth Rich thing.



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    So we agree that if Trump can order investigations into people Trump thinks are corrupt then so could Obama when he was president?
    I'd ask about if the investigations were properly predicated, but then you'll squeal about it so I'm just going to let it play out. FBI Director Wray addressed the house today and referenced FISA abuse...so we'll see what happens there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    The bet wasn't that Mueller couldn't indict Trump for conspiring with Russia. The bet is whether Russia hacked the DNC servers. And you've just confirmed that you lost the bet. If Mueller not having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that what you thought the bet was over -- Trump conspiring with the Russians -- was true means that I lost the bet then Mueller having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC servers -- which he does -- means that by your own metric I won the bet. You can now finally pay the money you owe to those two find organisations. $50 each and a further $40 split when Flynn is sentenced soon.
    The FBI never had the servers they had what CROWDSTRIKE gave them....not like they'd give a fair shake anyway. But yeah this is why you lost the bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If you bet at least $100 I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds that I'm right and you're wrong and the Mueller report proves all the emails were hacked by Russia. And I'll pay the money directly to you. You can make a million dollars by betting a hundred if you really believe the Seth Rich thing.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...87#post1517087
    Yeah, I'm well aware and THE guy who ran WikiLeaks at that time said he had 0, nil, nada, nothing, come from Russia or Russian assets. So when he testifies OR the actual server is produced, then and only then will the case be 100% settled. Sorry if you're disappointed by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So we agree that if Trump can order investigations into people Trump thinks are corrupt then so could Obama when he was president?
    I'd ask about if the investigations were properly predicated, but then you'll squeal about it so I'm just going to let it play out. FBI Director Wray addressed the house today and referenced FISA abuse...so we'll see what happens there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    The bet wasn't that Mueller couldn't indict Trump for conspiring with Russia. The bet is whether Russia hacked the DNC servers. And you've just confirmed that you lost the bet. If Mueller not having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that what you thought the bet was over -- Trump conspiring with the Russians -- was true means that I lost the bet then Mueller having evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC servers -- which he does -- means that by your own metric I won the bet. You can now finally pay the money you owe to those two find organisations. $50 each and a further $40 split when Flynn is sentenced soon.
    The FBI never had the servers they had what CROWDSTRIKE gave them....not like they'd give a fair shake anyway. But yeah this is why you lost the bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If you bet at least $100 I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds that I'm right and you're wrong and the Mueller report proves all the emails were hacked by Russia. And I'll pay the money directly to you. You can make a million dollars by betting a hundred if you really believe the Seth Rich thing.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...87#post1517087
    Yeah, I'm well aware and THE guy who ran WikiLeaks at that time said he had 0, nil, nada, nothing, come from Russia or Russian assets. So when he testifies OR the actual server is produced, then and only then will the case be 100% settled. Sorry if you're disappointed by that.

    By your own metric you lost the bet. And once again, there was never a single server. There were dozens of servers, most of them in huge cloud systems. It would be impossible to physically remove the servers. The FBI were given a mirror of the whole system which is impossible to alter without being obvious to investigators. Of course the FBI are all corrupt as well aren't they. Anyway, I offered you a bet knowing your "intensive research" into this was watching Q videos on youtube and that you wouldn't have even read the four page summary of the Mueller report that the DOJ sent out. Which is why I felt secure in offering you a thousand to one odds knowing what I was betting on had just been confirmed by the Trump DOJ. Idiot.

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    Keep singing that same old song Kirkland and I'll keep telling you the same as I always have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Yes, this has been explained to you more than once. There is endless evidence to show the Trump campaign and Russia working together. You can read (hahahahahahahahaha) the first eleven pages of the Mueller report for all the details. Mueller couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt however due to various Trump people refusing to give evidence, destroying evidence, taking the fifth and so on.
    Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong and I did not lose that bet.
    If Mueller couldn't prove something beyond reasonable doubt means I lost the bet then by your own determinant if Mueller could prove it beyond reasonable doubt then I win the bet. And Mueller has proof beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC. So pay up.

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    Oh and well done Mitt Romney. I would say history will be very kind to you for what you did but it depends who ends up writing the history books, doesn't it. Not looking too clever on that front recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If Mueller couldn't prove something beyond reasonable doubt means I lost the bet then by your own determinant if Mueller could prove it beyond reasonable doubt then I win the bet. And Mueller has proof beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians hacked the DNC. So pay up.
    you said and I quote "hacked all the emails" keyword there being ALL as in 100%....did he prove that? No, no he didn't. Thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Oh and well done Mitt Romney. I would say history will be very kind to you for what you did but it depends who ends up writing the history books, doesn't it. Not looking too clever on that front recently.
    Yes it's quite bipolar recently in 2012 Mitt was giving people cancer and stuffing women in binders and now he's a REEEEEEEEEsistance hero

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    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?

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    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?
    I think it looks fairly certain unless they crash the economy. The Democrats are sabotaging themselves constantly. Not sure what that is all about but let them build their sandcastles.

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    I'm not a Mitt Romney fan but I admire what he did. In this circus... er..... political climate it takes some major COJONES to go against the flow and vote with your heart. Wish the same could be said for the cheap whores in the Senate who flip over more than a stack of pancakes at IHOP. Whether he's right or wrong, he's purposely committing political suicide by going against the grain and incurring the wrath and inevitable payback from Herr Trump and his band of ass-kissers. What a total and utter sham U.S. politics have become. Granted we have our own problems down here, but at least people finally got fed up and forced out a very corrupt and inept Governor. You don't fuck around with the people too long and get away with it. I've said it a million times and I'm gonna make it TWO million..... whether fan or hater, one FACT is undeniable. This is the most divisive POTUS in history. At least all the previous ones made an effort (even if it was a token, hypocritical one) to promote fucking unity among the people. This asshole not only promotes division..... he revels in it. He uses it. The human piece of garbage wouldn't have it any other way. It's been his style since forever.... DIVIDE AND CONQUER. People don't respect him..... they fucking FEAR him. Anyone who doesn't know the difference feel free to ask me. Who really thinks we're all in a "better place" right now? I sure don't. I still value human decency, compassion, empathy, respect, and other characteristics alien to Trump over most anything else. Yes.... we're going to get 4 more years of Trump. Hip hip fucking hooray!! Four more years of constantly dropping standards and widening divisions among the people 9f the United States. Four more years of TOTAL carte blanche to all those nauseating, useless, destructive, pointless, hate-mongering groups that exist for the sole purpose of forcing society further down the toilet.

    Meanwhile, Herr Trump will pursue his personal vendetta against all those who dare criticize him. Romney had better watch his back from now on..... 'cause he's dog meat.

    FUCK Trump and everything he stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?
    The acquittal was a foregone conclusion from the outset as the votes for removal were obviously not there. Closest thing was having maybe about half dozen Republicans coming out calling his conduct regarding the call in question either shameful, wrong, problematic, not good and not perfect. Basic lip service and a finger wagging with only 1 Republican voting for his removal. Personally I find critical thinking and standing on convictions against the masses to be admirable and speaks to a mans character. I think had an actual Republican alternative found backing and all primaries allowing actual competition within the party an Independent voter swing would have been big along with others wanting off the Trump train. As an Independent I certainly would have looked at a Republican before a few of the current Dems save maybe for Buttigieg. I'll eat dirt and drive a nail through my toe before voting for a Sanders. I think Bidens time is ticking within the Dem voters base and he'll call it a day shortly. Trump certainly has the momentum at present and has managed to reach an all time approval rating of 49% of voters. But Trump gonna Trump and any falter in the strong economy which is the literal spine of his reelection his base may be chipped away at as it's certainly not massively expanding. Time will tell but I guarantee this will be the ugliest election year in our history.
    Last edited by Spicoli; 02-09-2020 at 12:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quick question, will trump be re-elected?

    I'm not too up on American politics, I saw he was acquitted and I know he has lovers and haters and doesn't seem to have any inbetweeners, what are the odds?
    The acquittal was a foregone conclusion from the outset as the votes for removal were obviously not there. Closest thing was having maybe about half dozen Republicans coming out calling his conduct regarding the call in question either shameful, wrong, problematic, not good and not perfect. Basic lip service and a finger wagging with only 1 Republican voting for his removal. Personally I find critical thinking and standing on convictions against the masses to be admirable and speaks to a mans character. I think had an actual Republican alternative found backing and all primaries allowing actual competition within the party an Independent voter swing would have been big along with others wanting off the Trump train. As an Independent I certainly would have looked at a Republican before a few of the current Dems save maybe for Buttigieg. I'll eat dirt and drive a nail through my toe before voting for a Sanders. I think Bidens time is ticking within the Dem voters base and he'll call it a day shortly. Trump certainly has the momentum at present and has managed to reach an all time approval rating of 49% of voters. But Trump gonna Trump and any falter in the strong economy which is the literal spine of his reelection his base may be chipped away at as it's certainly not massively expanding. Time will tell but I guarantee this will be the ugliest election year in our history.
    Batman, I think he is saying Trump has a decent chance. 😜

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