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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    My last sentence does not really make any sense.

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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    My last sentence does not really make any sense.

    You entire argument makes no sense it is just 100% whatabouttery and evasion.

    This is a thread set up on the premise and assertion that the example of a private company deciding not to reprint 6 children's books from a series of 39 was an example of not only someone banning books, but also evidence that the people doing so were not good guys.

    Is that true?

    What it really boils down to is that you as usual think you know better. You think you are the expert and everything should therefore be run by you.

    It doesn't matter if you go and ask a million Asians if they are offended or not by the pictures because it isn't your company or decision to make. Whether the publisher made that decision based on a genuine wish not to cause unnecessary offense, to avoid litigation, to appeal more to a certain demographic, or simply because they thought financially they would in the long run sell more books (which seems to have happened) they are not the government and are not banning anything.

    Nobody is disputing your knowledge of South Korea and it's culture but that doesn't by extension mean everybody else is ignorant and naive about Asians. Asians are humans first and will differ massively across socio-economic, geographic and cultural and religious lines and so nobody can pretend to speak for all of them.

    When they are part of a minority in another country though things are undoubtedly different and stereotypes and cliches, while obviously reflecting some truthful observations, should be able to be challenged over time. That is how culture works, it is not this static dead thing you seem to want to make it into. A turgid decaying corpulent immovable fetid mass that has all vitality and potential to evolve removed.

    Where were you in 1981? Were you even born? It might seem irrelevant but that was the first time I met and stayed with my Asian step Mother and started JuJutsu, learning from her student lodger over from Hong Kong. That was way before cultural appropriation was a thing, and I thought Bruce Lee, Origami and the amazing food were pretty cool things to adopt despite that probably being considered the opposite to what they are by some idiots today.

    My old man had met his new wife after living and studying in the Solomon Islands for a couple years. As an Anthropologist he lived with tribes who had in their past been cannibals, and so no, the one thing i learned pretty early on was to not have a problem with other people's culture purely because it was different to mine.



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    So on the basis of your logic I must now ask Pixar to stop portraying lanky cowboys with round eyes and pointy noses because as a minority in a country who is compared to such a stereotype it is insidious and ignores that white people can have small eyes, bulging bellies, and orange skin too.

    Bonkers. It is basically a self ban and I know about those.

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    I have never read a Seuss book. I read good books like Bad Vibes by Luke Haines. Evil books are what I am into. Any man that jumps 15 feet in the dark and breaks his legs is automatically on my list of legends. Leg-ends.

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    Default Re: Name a time in history it was the good guys banning books

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I have never read a Seuss book. I read good books like Bad Vibes by Luke Haines. Evil books are what I am into. Any man that jumps 15 feet in the dark and breaks his legs is automatically on my list of legends. Leg-ends.

    I rest my case your honour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I have never read a Seuss book. I read good books like Bad Vibes by Luke Haines. Evil books are what I am into. Any man that jumps 15 feet in the dark and breaks his legs is automatically on my list of legends. Leg-ends.

    I rest my case your honour
    And then ebay bans anyone from selling the naughty books...whilst of course permitting Mein Kampf.

    Now I of course argue that no book should be banned. It is you making the case that it is quite alright because 'culture changes'. Sure, culture is a constantly evolving thing, but books must always remain available as people should have the freedom to make up their own minds.

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