Manny vs Ugas

[Master]

some dinosaurs just dont know how to die.

Part of boxing for great fighters to push it until they lose. Manny Pac is getting to the stage where even if he loses this fight it will not tarnish his legacy. It will further enhance it if he wins.

[Primo Carnera]

some dinosaurs just dont know how to die.

Part of boxing for great fighters to push it until they lose. Manny Pac is getting to the stage where even if he loses this fight it will not tarnish his legacy. It will further enhance it if he wins.

I thought he meant Bob Arum. Perhaps not?

[Master]

Manny Pacquiao reveals his two favourite wins but says beating Errol Spence Jr will put him ‘among the all-time greats’

DESPITE 71 fights, titles in eight divisions and already making history, beating Errol Spence Jr could be Manny Pacquiao's personal career highlight.

The Filipino icon looks to roll back the years and defy the odds once more when he challenges unbeaten Spence for welterweight titles in Vegas on August 21.

A win for Pacquiao, to his own admission, will put him among boxing's greatest and potentially eclipse his two most memorable nights.

The first was when he beat Lehlohonolo Ledwaba in 2001 for the super-bantamweight world title - his first fight with trainer Freddie Roach.

Then, seven years later Pacquiao catapulted himself to superstardom after battering Oscar De La Hoya into retirement.

And despite all the glory between and after those special wins, dethroning Spence, 31, at the ripe old age of 42 could put PacMan alongside the sport's absolute best.


In an exclusive interview with SunSport, Pacquiao said: “We recently celebrated the 20th anniversary of my US debut where I beat Lehlo Ledwaba to win his IBF junior featherweight title.

"That was certainly special because it was also my first fight with Freddie.

"The fight that had the biggest impact on my career was against Oscar De La Hoya. Everything changed for me after that one.

"I got a lot of satisfaction beating Matthysse, Broner and Thurman in a 12-month period, becoming the oldest man to win a welterweight title.

"Beating Errol Spence would be very special to me for all the obvious reasons and could elevate me into the discussion of being among the all-time greats in the sport.

"We have a lot of hard work left to do first for that to happen.”

Pacquiao will have been out the ring for over two years when he returns in Las Vegas, having last fought in July 2019 when he beat Keith Thurman, 32.

Thurman had promised to usher the boxing icon into retirement - but instead lost his WBA belt and unbeaten record.

Spence will also be defending his WBC and IBF titles as well as a 27-fight undefeated run and claimed he is the man to knock Pacquiao out of the sport.

PacMan knows he is once more dealing with an American pound-for-pound star looking to profit like never before by beating the ring legend.

But defending his honour for his loyal followers is what inspires him most as the golden oldie opened up about continuing to fight the best in the world.

Pacquiao said: “It is easy. I love boxing. It is my passion.

"But I also want to give the fans a good performance and that is one of the many motivations for me train as hard as I do.

"To be at your best takes hard work. I want to win and show everyone I can still compete at the highest level.

"Errol Spence is not just one of the best welterweights, he is one of the best fighters.

"He is young, undefeated and a world champion. He also wants to knock my head off. That is all the motivation I need.”

Pacquiao has become beloved by boxing fans for his dazzling performances and reputation for the challenging the best in the business.

But after such a long lay-off, and no tune-up bout in between, even his most passionate and adoring supporters were shocked when Spence was chosen as the comeback opponent.

One man not surprised in the slightest was Hall of Fame trainer Roach - who has cornered Pacquiao against the greatest fighters over two decades.

But that was during PacMan's prime, as they now enter uncharted territory in their 37th fight together.

Roach said: "Manny has fought a lot of good fighters, he's fought better fighters than Spence along the way, but he wasn't 42 back then.

"This opponent is a little bit flat-footed, but he's a big puncher and someone we can't stay in the pocket with. We've got to box and stay smart.

"But Manny's work ethic is still there, he works his ass off everyday, he trains hard. He's getting better and better as training camp goes on."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15705...rol-spence-jr/

[Cleon]

A Pac win secures his name in the ATG discussion

[Master]

FLOYD MAYWEATHER VICTIMS COLLIDE ON MANNY PACQUIAO VS. ERROL SPENCE JR.

Former Floyd Mayweather victims Robert Guerrero and Victor Ortiz will attempt to roll back the years on the undercard on Manny Pacquiao vs. Errol Spence Jr.

Both men fought as lost against Mayweather in World Boxing Council welterweight title contests in 2011 and 2013, respectively.

Ortiz got controversially knocked out in the fourth round by Floyd Mayweather. Guerrero managed to go the distance with the ex-pound-for-pound king.

Now, the pair hope to move closer to a possible final championship fling with victory on the undercard of Mayweather rival Pacquiao.

Guerrero, who holds a record of 36-6-1, 20 KOs, is a three-time world champion who has won world titles at featherweight and super featherweight.

“Ghost” has also fought a stacked lineup of elite fighters, including Floyd Mayweather, during a superb career.

The Gilroy, California native returned from a 2017 defeat to Omar Figueroa Jr. to win his last three contests.

After stopping Adam Mates in December 2018 and Levinson Herrera in March 2019, Guerrero most recently won a unanimous decision over Gerald Thomas in September 2019.

The seasoned veteran is looking forward to the opportunity.

“It’s great to be back in the ring, especially on a big card like Pacquiao vs. Spence,” said Guerrero. “It was an honor to kick off the first PBC fight on network television, and here I am once again, ready to put on a spectacular show for the fans.

“Victor Ortiz and I were always on a collision course to fight, and now it’s finally happening. One thing I know for sure, we are going to throw blows, and the fans are going to see an all-out war.

“My time out of the ring has only fueled my desire to give the fans a great fight. Everyone should order this pay-per-view and get their popcorn ready.

“It’s going to be fireworks from top to bottom.”

Ortiz, 32-6-3, 25 KOs as a pro, and a former 147-pound champion, will return to the ring for the first time since a February 2018 draw against two-division champion Devon Alexander.

The 34-year-old native of Garden City, Kansas, but relocated to Ventura, California, has faced some of the top names in the 147-pound division during his career.

Ortiz won the welterweight title with a unanimous decision victory over Andre Berto in April 2011, before losing the title to Floyd Mayweather.

“I am thrilled to be back in the ring on this Pacquiao vs. Spence Jr. pay-per-view undercard August 21,” said Ortiz. “Robert Guerrero is a legend who I’ve always admired.

“I look forward to competing against him and giving fans the toe-to-toe battle they’re expecting.

“I’ve had a great camp, and I’m so excited to be part of this enormous event. Thank you to everyone who has supported me. I’m ready to make history again!”

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021...cquiao-spence/

[Spicoli]

PBC plowing over the old bones next two weeks . Love the Ghost but he's just that and Victor Ortiz hasn't won a high level fight in a decade. But hey fans love car crashes so let's just hope it doesn't end in a draw. Next week PBC gives us Devon Alexander and Luis Collazo in separate goes two years removed from both appearing shot to pieces. Feels like you're walking into a pawn shop. Ugas v Maidana co main is nice as he was lined up for Spence first. Al Haymon..let them boyz rest man.

[Master]

Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr: Spence plans on retiring boxing legend

Errol Spence Jr. (27-0, 21 KOs) is set to take on boxing great Manny Pacquiao on August 21st at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, and he wants to 'retire' the living legend.

The IBF/WBC Welterweight Champion looks to add to his legacy when he faces the 42-year-old later this month, but he doesn't see it as the biggest fight of his career.

Although Pacquiao is still dangerous inside the ring, Spence believes that his contest against Kell Brook is still the biggest of his boxing career.

Speaking ahead of the contest in just under two weeks, Spence seemed calm and prepared, despite the legendary status of his opponent and what he can bring to the table.

He said, "It’s probably the second biggest fight [of my career]. I still feel the Kell Brook fight was the biggest fight of my career. If not for that, I’d still get here, but it would have been a lot harder road to get here.

“It solidified me in my first-world title fight. I was fighting in another man’s country in front of his fans, in front of 30,000, and stopping him for the [IBF welterweight] title.

“At that time, he was arguably the best welterweight division at the time. At that time, I felt like that was the biggest accomplishment of my career, especially as young in my career like that."

Spence gave Pacquiao credit for entering the ring with him, crediting the Filipino for being a warrior and taking such a high profile contest. He said, “I do want to retire him, and I do respect him for taking this fight and being a real fighter.

“He could have picked Joe Blow or anybody, an MMA fighter, just to get a huge paycheck. He took the biggest challenge in the division."

Pacquaio reportedly is not interested in taking some of the money fights available, such as a contest against MMA megastar Conor McGregor. Notably, Pacquaio's rival Floyd Mayweather has taken a few of these bouts against McGregor, Logan Paul, and the Japanese MMA promotion RIZIN a few years ago.

https://www.givemesport.com/1734668-...ing-legend?amp

[Master]

Manny Pacquiao reveals secrets to incredible physique aged 42 which includes boxing icon playing basketball ‘daily’

MANNY PACQUIAO is proving the ball is still in his court aged 42, by keeping his incredible physique with 'daily' basketball games.

The boxing legend formerly played professional basketball in the Philippines as part of his training regime before he stopped in 2018.

But the 5ft 4in legend continues to shoot hoops for fun, as he defies age entering his 72nd fight still looking as ripped and ready to go as ever at 42.

And he will need to be as he attempts to dethrone unbeaten WBC and IBF welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr, 31, on August 21.

As ever, Pacquiao has linked up with his long-time coach, Hall of Famer Freddie Roach in California, ahead of their 37th fight together.

But even now, Roach has to plead with the eight-division champion to give his ageing body much needed rest.

And that is one of the primary differences from the PacMan that first walked into his WildCard gym two decades ago compared to now.

In an exclusive interview, Pacquiao told SunSport: “I feel great. I am always active between training camps, which keeps me in good shape.

"I play basketball games daily which is great exercise. I listen to my body.

"If I feel that a day off from training will help my body recover, I will take a day off.

"And the next day, I feel good as new and am able to give everything Freddie asks of me in the gym.

"Freddie even encourages me to take more time in training. That is really the only change from when I was younger.”

Pacquiao first walked into Roach's gym in 2001, and in their first fight together they won the super-bantamweight world title.

PacMan became a sensation overnight Stateside with his hand and foot speed dazzling those watching on.

Fast forward 20 years and he is just as devastating, as Roach struggles to split the difference between the Pacquiao he first met to the man we see today.

He said: "He's pretty close to the same guy. His footwork is great, his hand speed and his power is very good.

"For the last two years I haven't seen him, but he's been sending me tapes of all his workouts and I sent back my thoughts on what he needs to work on and so forth.

"He still works out hard, his work ethic is really great and I'm getting the best sparring partners I can for Spence's style.

"I had to get rid of one, who just wasn't working out, he was too much of a runner and Spence is not a runner, he'll stand and fight.

"But one thing about Manny Pacquiao - he'll stand and fight back."

Pacquiao will have been out the ring over two years by the time he challenges for Spence's titles.

He has not returned since beating Keith Thurman, 32, on points in July 2019.

In the period since, his comeback fight has been postponed amid the coronavirus pandemic, leaving him housebound in the Philippines.

But Pacquiao has been ramping his political campaign, leading up to a possible presidential bid in 2022.

“I am always active between training camps, which keeps me in good shape. I play basketball games daily which is great exercise. I listen to my body.

Manny Pacquiao On Training Aged 42


Rumour has it the boxing icon has just two fights left, before bringing a close to one of the most celebrated careers of all time.

Even the man himself cannot comment on how long he has left, but hinted at fighting Spence TWICE.

He said: “That is a good question to which I do not know the answer. Let’s see how this fight goes.

"I am not looking past Errol Spence. Who knows? Our fight might be so good the fans will demand a rematch.”

Pacquiao's retirement also depends on a deal he has with Roach - but so far there is no danger of calling it a day just yet.

Roach said: "I made a deal with him ten years ago.

"I said, 'Manny, when you're all done and I tell you it's over, I want you to retire, I want no bulls***.

"I said, 'I don't want to see you get hurt in this game'. The other day he said, 'Freddie, am I an old man yet?'

"I said, 'No... not yet!'"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15788...ng-basketball/

[Spicoli]

Surprise to myself I have no problem with this one . Manny has been rolling the lottery ball holding the microphone out for two years now, names flying around but hey with standing cemented and career status exercised in biggest way possible. Spence has put a decent opponent run into motion to be top 147 and I have zero doubt Manny is taking it seriously and as the last stand. Somehow I think he has more opportunities with Spence than trying to in and out speed with Crawford. Strictly style wise. If he hasn't grey geezered overnight he can surprise a stand tall Spence at least early on. I've put way too much thought into it. Spence retires him on his shield.

[SlimTrae]

These types of fights would have been often had Pac left Arum a lot sooner. Arum was sure to have Pac fight Floyd's fighters afterward think DLH, Hatton, Mosley)

quote:
As his former promoter, Arum has a hard time giving him the edge this time around.
https://www.boxinginsider.com/headli...ford-we-tried/


Arum wanted Pac to take on his Crawford. with a lot of money. however Pac for some reason did the SAME TO ARUM FLOYD DID ONCE FREE OF HIM.

Arum was all over about Floyd vs Margarito.
Arum was all over about Terrence vs Pacman.

In the end, there was never a shot of Floyd fighting Rito -regardless of the so called 7 million offer.
In the end there was never real mention of Pac wanting to take Terrence fight where Arum again stated Abu Dhabi because the money is huge

Could Pac be so unhappy with the money Arum made off him that he is quietly dissing Arum? Whereas Floyd publicly trashed Arum?

This article really makes me think so!
Bob Arum Targeting Manny Pacquiao or Errol Spence For Terence Crawford in 2021

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/b...wford-in-2021/


So, Arum wanted Terrence to fight either Pac or Spence and in the end both spence & pac are fighting!!! Damn I love it!! I so hope Arum is rode out of boxing JUST like King...with a wimper no one notices.


Pac is fighting Spence, because he probably needs the money. I am not going to keep forgetting he (just like Floyd) have now retired and unretired twice.
There is actually a bad side of a story to me.

Pac is fighting a young killer for millions, while Floyd smiles and asks- why should I fight a prime fighter for millions when I can fight a youtuber for a hundred million?


Nevertheless Pac legacy is secured. With that said, Spence forces Roach to retire Pac on the stool 9th or 10th round and we witness the inevitable: a great who cant walk away...
again...

[Master]

I am sure Roach is not in Manny's corner now.

[SlimTrae]

I am sure Roach is not in Manny's corner now.

God forbid it is buboy.

[Master]

Floyd Mayweather reacts to Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr: ‘He is very dangerous still’

Floyd Mayweather has warned Errol Spence Jr not to take Manny Pacquiao lightly ahead of their clash of the ages on August 21.

Unbeaten American Spence Jr (27-0, 21 KO's) defends his WBC and IBF titles against eight-division world champion Pacquiao in Las Vegas, Nevada, and goes into the fight as an overwhelming favourite with the bookmakers.

It's the 31-year-old's first bout since he defeated Danny Garcia in December 2020.

But speaking to reporters earlier this week, 44-year-old Mayweather Jr, who outpointed the former 147lbs world titleholder in May 2015, has urged Spence to take Pacquiao seriously.

As 'Pretty Boy' sees it, he feels the 42-year-old still has plenty left in the tank.

"He [Pacquiao] is very dangerous still," Mayweather said (via BoxingNews24).

Mayweather decisively beat Pacquiao over 12 rounds in May 2015 to end the debate which had raged on for many years.

However, he recently named the legendary Pac Man as the toughest opponent he has ever faced in his career.

Teofimo Lopez, like Mayweather, has also preached caution to his fellow American, noting that Pacquiao has more experience operating at a higher level of competition, which could turn out to be a big factor on the night.

"Anything can happen, and Pacquiao has had a long rest too," Lopez said (via BoxingNews24). "I like both guys in that fight, and may the best man win, really.

"Manny has so much experience; he can get through anything.

"As long as they have the right plan, whatever they do, they’ll have that. They’ll be able to do all that."

Despite Lopez's admiration for Pacquiao, however, he refused to dismiss Spence's talents.

"However, Errol Spence, you can’t take anything away from Errol Spence," he added. "He’s still young, he’s in his prime, and he knows how to place body shots.

"He’s very strong at that; he’s like a body snatcher."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...rtan-ntp-feeds

[SlimTrae]

A win over Spence is 3x greater than a win over Thurman.

Thurman's off again on again career never allowed us to see his best. Nevertheless losing to Pac didn't expose Thurman, rather showed that Pac is dangerous (given the right style opponent)


With Spence? Different story. This dude throws punches in bunches, upstairs, downstairs 1,000 a fight if needed. Big, strong & skilled enough to say a Pac win would NOT imo hurt Spence's legacy rather validate how truly great Pac is (again given the right style to show it)


The stats of Pac fluctuates way too wildly to not see this. He throws 1,000 with come forward fighters but with counterpunchers he is reduced at times to just half.



Floyd Mayweather 148 outta 435 punches
Manny Pacquiao's 81 outta 429.

34% accuracy vs 19% accuracy.

While Pac's team claimed injury prevented him from throwing more I am not convinced. When he had openings and cornered Floyd, nothing whatsoever made me think he was throwing while in immense pain.


Plus his fights with JMM show a trend- each time Pac threw less, landed less & had lesser accuracy- If JMM can force Pac to go from over 600 punches thrown to their trilogy of him throwing under 600, how is it not feasible to conclude a far better counterpuncher in Floyd would drop that % even more?
157 outta 619 Fight I
down to
176 outta 578 Fight III

So against Floyd 81 outta 429 just doesnt equate to a one armed injured fighter.
& Pac getting robbed vs Horn- he didn't throw that 1,000 bonanza-fest not due to counterpunching but a rough-houser. His output again- 580

Pac has proven from fight to fight the disparity can go from 1,000+ thrown to only 600 thrown back up to 800, back down...

I think with Spence He will look like he's stalled father time's clock because he'll have the chance to throw against a fighter who doesn't use a lot of ring movement.

Spence will be there and as usual, Pac's output is always higher against a fighter who is there.

I expect an 800 punch measure -no less from each guy. Only way it is lesser is if someone is KTFO'd!

This will be Pac's swan song-he loses with pride. And if Joshua Clottey could swell him up, throwing next to nothing- I can't envision Spence doing no lesser. I predict Spence will beat his ass so bad, we will feel sorry like Ali losing to Holmes, Leonard losing to Camacho...it will look convincing. I have never made a bolder prediction here.