Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[TitoFan]

Saw this on a FB post today. It was in Spanish, but I'll translate.

"Why is it easier to accept conspiracy theories than scientific theories? Because to understand scientific theories you have to study."

Simple, but true.

Any simpleton can parrot what he/she sees or reads on social media.

[TitoFan]

https://www.axios.com/anti-mask-and-...7250dae6e.html


To be fair, it's not just the U.S. that has its share of morons. It's a global phenomenon, unfortunately.

You know what's sad? If they were just out there protesting without bothering those who DO believe in COVID, vaccines, and masking... it might go a bit easier.

But these assholes are assaulting people who don't share their views. They're shutting down vaccination sites. They're interfering with other people's right to do what THEY feel is right.

They don't believe in anything... so no one else is allowed to either.

Technology may have advanced in the last century. But humanity in general has regressed.

@Kirkland Laing I think one of your earlier posts on clearing out the gene pool is right on point.

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

none of what you have posted states how you know there is a virus. you are stating something is real & i am asking you to tell me how you know this to be true. we both know you can't but you can't admit that. you only have a belief

[TIC]

Saw this on a FB post today. It was in Spanish, but I'll translate.

"Why is it easier to accept conspiracy theories than scientific theories? Because to understand scientific theories you have to study."

Simple, but true.

Any simpleton can parrot what he/she sees or reads on social media.

theories aren't facts. you are right that any simpleton can parrot what he she sees or reads on social media. that is why i prefer to know rather than believe

[Beanz]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

TIC and Brock and all the other cowards that ran away with their tails between their legs do not believe in personal responsibility, so they will never even answer a simple question.

It's always everyone else's fault or responsibility because they think that they are special and that the responsibility to be truthful or consider the impact of their actions or lack of action on others, does not apply to them.

That is why they have repeatedly used alts, reposted blatant lies dressed up as facts and shit stirred here treating other posters like shite. You are correct the onus is on them to provide evidence but they never will. Why?

Because they are attention seeking narcassists.

TIC refuses to answer not only because he has no answer and using replying with an answer as a cowardly evasion technique but because he enjoys the idea of being the centre of attention. With Brock he is less obtuse and more transparent but TLC also demonstrates all the classic traits of a narcassist by answering a question with a question.

He doesn't think anyone here deserves answers, look at how he speaks to people, he does not give a shit about other posters they are afforded not even the minimum amount of respect because he doesn't care what you feel, he gets off on people's confusion. It's a form of gaslighting designed to have a pop ar everyone else's self esteem, Walrus does it too. They want to deflect and project so that we all end up apologising to them for having the temerity to even ask them a simple question.

That is why they claim to diagnose anyone who exposes their narcassicm with mental disorders or call people 'spergy spastics' etc in order to try and pretend that they are the 'normal' ones, when they clearly have unresolved issues.

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

TIC and Brock and all the other cowards that ran away with their tails between their legs do not believe in personal responsibility, so they will never even answer a simple question.

It's always everyone else's fault or responsibility because they think that they are special and that the responsibility to be truthful or consider the impact of their actions or lack of action on others, does not apply to them.

That is why they have repeatedly used alts, reposted blatant lies dressed up as facts and shit stirred here treating other posters like shite. You are correct the onus is on them to provide evidence but they never will. Why?

Because they are attention seeking narcassists.

TIC refuses to answer not only because he has no answer and using replying with an answer as a cowardly evasion technique but because he enjoys the idea of being the centre of attention. With Brock he is less obtuse and more transparent but TLC also demonstrates all the classic traits of a narcassist by answering a question with a question.

He doesn't think anyone here deserves answers, look at how he speaks to people, he does not give a shit about other posters they are afforded not even the minimum amount of respect because he doesn't care what you feel, he gets off on people's confusion. It's a form of gaslighting designed to have a pop ar everyone else's self esteem, Walrus does it too. They want to deflect and project so that we all end up apologising to them for having the temerity to even ask them a simple question.

That is why they claim to diagnose anyone who exposes their narcassicm with mental disorders or call people 'spergy spastics' etc in order to try and pretend that they are the 'normal' ones, when they clearly have unresolved issues.

you will never get any respect from me spergy larry. you believe something to be true & i am asking you to tell me how you know this. it is your belief, your problem to prove it true, not mine

[Primo Carnera]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Mate, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief, not mine.

it's your problem to prove your belief to be true. you have already admitted that you don't know

Exactly!!! So I get a pass from “proving my belief to be true, because it’s not technically my belief” Whereas you, my Pedigree chum, “Believe” there isn’t a virus.
So I ask again, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief.

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Mate, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief, not mine.

it's your problem to prove your belief to be true. you have already admitted that you don't know

Exactly!!! So I get a pass from “proving my belief to be true, because it’s not technically my belief” Whereas you, my Pedigree chum, “Believe” there isn’t a virus.
So I ask again, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief.

it's not my problem to prove someone else's belief is true. those stating something is true needs to prove that. you should be asking the same question as me of these believers if you were really interested in the truth

[Kirkland Laing]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

none of what you have posted states how you know there is a virus. you are stating something is real & i am asking you to tell me how you know this to be true. we both know you can't but you can't admit that. you only have a belief

Neither of us have any kind of qualification or expertise in virology or epidemiology and neither of us have access to any of the various healthcare and disease control systems around the world that are dealing with this virus so neither of us have any actual personally attested evidence that the virus does or does not exist.

We only have observable reality.

On my side of the argument are thousands of virologists and epidemiologists, tens of thousands of doctors and medical specialists and millions of dead people killed by the virus along with tens of millions of people infected by it. The wealth of evidence that the virus exists is incontrovertible. It would be impossible to construct a conspiracy so elaborate and so we can say that there is literally no other explanation for the events of the past eighteen months other than the fact that the virus exists. The fact that the virus does exist is basically an uncontested fact among all political stripes and ideologies worldwide, even among the vast majority of American conservatives.

On your side of the argument are a small number of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people who insist while offering zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

[Kirkland Laing]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

TIC and Brock and all the other cowards that ran away with their tails between their legs do not believe in personal responsibility, so they will never even answer a simple question.

It's always everyone else's fault or responsibility because they think that they are special and that the responsibility to be truthful or consider the impact of their actions or lack of action on others, does not apply to them.

That is why they have repeatedly used alts, reposted blatant lies dressed up as facts and shit stirred here treating other posters like shite. You are correct the onus is on them to provide evidence but they never will. Why?

Because they are attention seeking narcassists.

TIC refuses to answer not only because he has no answer and using replying with an answer as a cowardly evasion technique but because he enjoys the idea of being the centre of attention. With Brock he is less obtuse and more transparent but TLC also demonstrates all the classic traits of a narcassist by answering a question with a question.

He doesn't think anyone here deserves answers, look at how he speaks to people, he does not give a shit about other posters they are afforded not even the minimum amount of respect because he doesn't care what you feel, he gets off on people's confusion. It's a form of gaslighting designed to have a pop ar everyone else's self esteem, Walrus does it too. They want to deflect and project so that we all end up apologising to them for having the temerity to even ask them a simple question.

That is why they claim to diagnose anyone who exposes their narcassicm with mental disorders or call people 'spergy spastics' etc in order to try and pretend that they are the 'normal' ones, when they clearly have unresolved issues.

We do seem to attract our fair share of nutters.

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Neither of us have any kind of medical training or sophisticated knowledge about viruses. We have to go on the evidence as we see it.

On one side of this question about whether the virus exists or not are thousands of the world's top epidemiologists, virologists, medical experts, hundreds of thousands of doctors and millions of healthcare professionals not to mention millions of dead bodies and tens of millions of people who have had the virus.

On the other side are a small bunch of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people on the internet claiming with zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist. Surely considering the preponderance of evidence on one side of the argument and the complete lack of evidence on the other side it should be up to the nutters to provide some evidence that the virus doesn't exist and the whole thing is some kind of conspiracy?

none of what you have posted states how you know there is a virus. you are stating something is real & i am asking you to tell me how you know this to be true. we both know you can't but you can't admit that. you only have a belief

Neither of us have any kind of qualification or expertise in virology or epidemiology and neither of us have access to any of the various healthcare and disease control systems around the world that are dealing with this virus so neither of us have any actual personally attested evidence that the virus does or does not exist.

We only have observable reality.

On my side of the argument are thousands of virologists and epidemiologists, tens of thousands of doctors and medical specialists and millions of dead people killed by the virus along with tens of millions of people infected by it. The wealth of evidence that the virus exists is incontrovertible. It would be impossible to construct a conspiracy so elaborate and so we can say that there is literally no other explanation for the events of the past eighteen months other than the fact that the virus exists. The fact that the virus does exist is basically an uncontested fact among all political stripes and ideologies worldwide, even among the vast majority of American conservatives.

On your side of the argument are a small number of terminally stupid and/or mentally ill people who insist while offering zero evidence that the virus doesn't exist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

so you admit you don't know & are just happy to believe. there is no fact that the virus exists because you would be able to tell me how you know that is true

[TitoFan]

At this point I just find it amazing that anyone here still gives a flying fuck WHAT this dude believes or doesn't believe.

Again... when Alpha was spouting his flat Earth doctrine all over the forum... I initially tried using reason and logic. When I saw it was fruitless and the same comebacks were being regurgitated over and over again... I switched to "poking fun" mode. Yeah, it got hot for awhile... but eventually I just left him for incorrigible. These people aren't searching for truth... just ATTENTION.

Contrary to what some may think, this guy isn't an Alpha alt. Alpha was hard-headed... but he didn't insult people.

But in all this, what continues to bug me is how these non-believers, anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, etc. are imposing their will on the rest of the population by attacking others, and attempting to shut down vaccination facilities.

Boils down to the same shit as other issues. Believe what you want... just don't force your warped fantasies on me.

[Primo Carnera]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Mate, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief, not mine.

it's your problem to prove your belief to be true. you have already admitted that you don't know

Exactly!!! So I get a pass from “proving my belief to be true, because it’s not technically my belief” Whereas you, my Pedigree chum, “Believe” there isn’t a virus.
So I ask again, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief.

it's not my problem to prove someone else's belief is true. those stating something is true needs to prove that. you should be asking the same question as me of these believers if you were really interested in the truth

Nah, nah, nah, I’m not asking you to prove anyone else’s belief is true , I’m asking you to prove that YOUR BELIEF that a virus doesn’t exist is true.
Listen , I’ve tied you up in knots, you clearly can’t answer, so we’ll leave it there, MATE!

[Memphis]

So yeah Mild like flu symptoms from the second shot. I say flu. I've no idea if it was actually flu because I'm not in a position to say if flu actually exists.

[TIC]

fear

https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-effect...persons-health

All the people currently in hospital around the world being treated for the virus are in there with something that doesn't exist?

can you tell me how you know there's a virus?

Mate, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief, not mine.

it's your problem to prove your belief to be true. you have already admitted that you don't know

Exactly!!! So I get a pass from “proving my belief to be true, because it’s not technically my belief” Whereas you, my Pedigree chum, “Believe” there isn’t a virus.
So I ask again, can you tell me how you know there isn’t a virus? Because that is your belief.

it's not my problem to prove someone else's belief is true. those stating something is true needs to prove that. you should be asking the same question as me of these believers if you were really interested in the truth

Nah, nah, nah, I’m not asking you to prove anyone else’s belief is true , I’m asking you to prove that YOUR BELIEF that a virus doesn’t exist is true.
Listen , I’ve tied you up in knots, you clearly can’t answer, so we’ll leave it there, MATE!

maybe you don't understand but it's not my job to prove someone else's belief to be true. i don't need to prove it doesn't exist. that is stupid