Today In Biden Land

**palmerq** · 08-22-2021 07:02 AM

You gits, I am from Scotland originally and speak and type terrible English like any good self depricating scotsman:S... Actually don't think I've even been a Canadian citizen for a year yet immigration timelines all blend together, I've lived in Canada for a few years though and I'm not leaving.

**Kirkland Laing** · 08-22-2021 07:08 AM

https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/s...65865593868293

It's a matter of time before things go very wrong in Kabul.

**Kirkland Laing** · 08-22-2021 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by palmerq

You gits, I am from Scotland originally and speak and type terrible English like any good self depricating scotsman:S... Actually don't think I've even been a Canadian citizen for a year yet immigration timelines all blend together, I've lived in Canada for a few years though and I'm not leaving.

Where are you in Canada?

**palmerq** · 08-22-2021 07:26 AM

Around the Vancouver area but obviously not in Vancouver because I'm not a millionaire :S

**Master** · 08-22-2021 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by palmerq

Around the Vancouver area but obviously not in Vancouver because I'm not a millionaire :S

I have loads of relatives that live in Surrey, Vancouver. Beautiful place makes our country look like a hell hole.

**palmerq** · 08-22-2021 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by palmerq

Around the Vancouver area but obviously not in Vancouver because I'm not a millionaire :S

I have loads of relatives that live in Surrey, Vancouver. Beautiful place makes our country look like a hell hole.

Yes this area is world class scenery wise. I don't think there is a big difference either way for quality of life when comparing this part of Canada and where I lived in Britain though, both have good and bad things... But that is not the topic of the thread so I will cease and desist my pro Canuck propaganda for now.

**TitoFan** · 08-22-2021 11:49 PM

Yeah... back to the topic at hand.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/22/10301...tan-evacuation

"Biden Touts 'Incredible' Evacuation Operation From Kabul, But Warns Of Ongoing Danger"

Sorry... I don't buy the "touting." Too bad all pro-Trump fans have evacuated this forum... because right now I'd be agreeing with them about just how badly this administration screwed this up.

Hostile Country Evacuation 101 -

First you systematically and safely evacuate American citizens, while maintaining sufficient military presence to ensure the operation. This includes control of the airport and/or other ports of exit.

Then... you begin to withdraw other key personnel not vital to the military presence that must be maintained throughout the evacuation.

And so on and so forth.

In short... there is (or should be) some heavy-duty logistics involved to ensure everything goes well, safely, and according to plan.

This not only to guarantee the safety of all evacuees... but to avoid looking foolish to the rest of the world.

It's not like the U.S. hasn't had practice at this already.

**Kirkland Laing** · 08-24-2021 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Yeah... back to the topic at hand.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/22/10301...tan-evacuation

"Biden Touts 'Incredible' Evacuation Operation From Kabul, But Warns Of Ongoing Danger"

Sorry... I don't buy the "touting." Too bad all pro-Trump fans have evacuated this forum... because right now I'd be agreeing with them about just how badly this administration screwed this up.

Hostile Country Evacuation 101 -

First you systematically and safely evacuate American citizens, while maintaining sufficient military presence to ensure the operation. This includes control of the airport and/or other ports of exit.

Then... you begin to withdraw other key personnel not vital to the military presence that must be maintained throughout the evacuation.

And so on and so forth.

In short... there is (or should be) some heavy-duty logistics involved to ensure everything goes well, safely, and according to plan.

This not only to guarantee the safety of all evacuees... but to avoid looking foolish to the rest of the world.

It's not like the U.S. hasn't had practice at this already.

If they'd started evacuating earlier the Afghan army would have collapsed even faster and Biden would be getting the blame for the collapse of the army. There's no good way this could have worked out.

With the benefit of hindsight once the provincial capitals stated falling the military should have told Biden to surge thousands of troops into the country but then you'd have the US military eventually retrating and leaving the country chased out by the Taliban and thousands of Americans who were out in the provinces taken hostage etc etc. It's a horrific situation any way you look at it. This is probably the least worst scenario once the Afghan army had folded up overnight. Still really bad though. Lots of blame to go round.