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    Yeah, it definitely hasn't enjoyed being isolated. It's behaviour has changed markedly, it seems to be scratching its fur a lot and is noticeably unhappy.

    I would triumphantly conclude that, having provably isolated the virus now, I need to show how you can catch it from a surface or through the air.

    I tried shoving the virus up my nose but it wouldn't quite fit in my nostril. I think TIC might have been onto something all along now as I can't see how you could physically catch the virus from inhaling it - which means that all those anti-maskers might be right after all.

    Of course, having the virus stuck in your nose might technically count as 'catching it' and thus actually being infected? That is clearly why infected people are immune (obviously having a virus blocking each nostril means that nothing else can get in, so you are immune)

    In a startling new development ..... I have also established the cause of so-called 'long covid' too.

    As part of my experiment to see if one could catch my newly isolated virus from a surface, I also licked it up and swallowed it yesterday. This morning, I have discovered that the virus is now lodged and is blocking my anus so I can't have a poo.

    Logically, I will not now be able to expel that virus from my body for some time now ............ so I have long Covid.

    I will keep you all informed of my continuing ground breaking research in due course!
    you haven't outlined your processes describing the isolation of the covid nineteen aka sars cov two virus in human beings, directly from a sample taken from a patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material. note the word isolate indicates a thing is separated from all other material surrounding it. you are an example for titofan of one party not acting in good faith


    That's a bit unfair, mate. You didn't ask for all that stuff, you just wanted proof that the virus had been isolated by me and that I could show how it could be passed on from surfaces or the air.

    You can see that I have gone to a whole load of effort to do that, post the photos and explain my findings from my experiments.

    Surely it's cheating a bit to now say all this stuff after the event? That's an example of somebody not acting in good faith, not me.

    You've hurt my feelings a bit, to be honest.
    Anyway, I will persevere in good faith.

    My neighbour has COVID (and I know this because he took a government test. Our government over here never lies about anything so it was definitely a COVID positive sample.).

    I got him to spit into a teacup and kept his spit isolated from anything else (for example, I was very careful not to make a cup of tea in that cup)

    I made absolutely certain that I didn't inadvertently contaminate the sample (say, by masturbating into it) either, so I am sure that it is pure genetic material from the patient and not combined with any other genetic material. Like spunk.

    I found a large kitchen sieve and, wearing my gardening gloves and a welding mask, I very carefully passed the material through the sieve. The virus remained in the sieve and I separated this out. I remembered the sage advice from president Trump and put the virus into a shoebox (because it is dark in there) and kept the shoebox well away from bleach.

    That's how I did it, and hopefully you can see that it was done scientifically, and that it provides you with the reassurance you need.

    So you can see that I have acted in good faith and gone to a great deal of time and trouble to follow your guidelines and requirements for a proper and complete scientific experiment that I think proves the things you were asking for. Does that help mate?
    spit would contain other material. how are you seeing the virus you claim you separated again? your camera must be amazing. you should quit while you are ahead

    I’ve already shown it to you, pay attention man. I put a photo up of it.

    Plus there was no spit after I isolated the virus by using the sieve. I’m beginning to doubt whether you even read these responses, or if your scientific credentials are not what you imply they are. Are you able to post a copy of them by any chance?


    you are claiming to have isolated a virus with a sift & taken a photo of it with your camera & you are talking to me about credentials. you really are a funny guy

    Well, I have taken a lot of time and trouble to isolate the virus and to prove it can be caught through the air and off surfaces. You must agree with that surely? I’ve pretty much nailed it

    I have been open and transparent about my scientific methodology and the specialist apparatus I used throughout the experiment. Yes, I used my camera to record the virus, but don't forget it was pretty much zoomed in to the max. It is a very good phone

    I got decent results in my Science GCSE exams, and I am a registered Fire Marshall at work so I think I am qualified to carry out this experiment and also that my scientifically proven results should be accepted. You can't seriously have spent 42 pages asking somebody to do this and then start quibbling about small details when they do, or what was the point of asking it so many times?

    That would be really mean after all my hard work. My wife is pissed off because I used the sieve already so don't make it all futile

    I was genuinely asking about your credentials though, just so I can be assured that you are properly qualified to peer-review my work, and arent just some random internet guy making nonsensical arguments, bringing in more blockers and caveats after the event, and then refusing to accept facts when they are presented to them.

    Obviously, I dont think you are that, but (speaking as one scientist to another) you will admit that the logical possibility does exist, no matter how far fetched that might be?
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    Yeah, it definitely hasn't enjoyed being isolated. It's behaviour has changed markedly, it seems to be scratching its fur a lot and is noticeably unhappy.

    I would triumphantly conclude that, having provably isolated the virus now, I need to show how you can catch it from a surface or through the air.

    I tried shoving the virus up my nose but it wouldn't quite fit in my nostril. I think TIC might have been onto something all along now as I can't see how you could physically catch the virus from inhaling it - which means that all those anti-maskers might be right after all.

    Of course, having the virus stuck in your nose might technically count as 'catching it' and thus actually being infected? That is clearly why infected people are immune (obviously having a virus blocking each nostril means that nothing else can get in, so you are immune)

    In a startling new development ..... I have also established the cause of so-called 'long covid' too.

    As part of my experiment to see if one could catch my newly isolated virus from a surface, I also licked it up and swallowed it yesterday. This morning, I have discovered that the virus is now lodged and is blocking my anus so I can't have a poo.

    Logically, I will not now be able to expel that virus from my body for some time now ............ so I have long Covid.

    I will keep you all informed of my continuing ground breaking research in due course!
    you haven't outlined your processes describing the isolation of the covid nineteen aka sars cov two virus in human beings, directly from a sample taken from a patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material. note the word isolate indicates a thing is separated from all other material surrounding it. you are an example for titofan of one party not acting in good faith


    That's a bit unfair, mate. You didn't ask for all that stuff, you just wanted proof that the virus had been isolated by me and that I could show how it could be passed on from surfaces or the air.

    You can see that I have gone to a whole load of effort to do that, post the photos and explain my findings from my experiments.

    Surely it's cheating a bit to now say all this stuff after the event? That's an example of somebody not acting in good faith, not me.

    You've hurt my feelings a bit, to be honest.
    Anyway, I will persevere in good faith.

    My neighbour has COVID (and I know this because he took a government test. Our government over here never lies about anything so it was definitely a COVID positive sample.).

    I got him to spit into a teacup and kept his spit isolated from anything else (for example, I was very careful not to make a cup of tea in that cup)

    I made absolutely certain that I didn't inadvertently contaminate the sample (say, by masturbating into it) either, so I am sure that it is pure genetic material from the patient and not combined with any other genetic material. Like spunk.

    I found a large kitchen sieve and, wearing my gardening gloves and a welding mask, I very carefully passed the material through the sieve. The virus remained in the sieve and I separated this out. I remembered the sage advice from president Trump and put the virus into a shoebox (because it is dark in there) and kept the shoebox well away from bleach.

    That's how I did it, and hopefully you can see that it was done scientifically, and that it provides you with the reassurance you need.

    So you can see that I have acted in good faith and gone to a great deal of time and trouble to follow your guidelines and requirements for a proper and complete scientific experiment that I think proves the things you were asking for. Does that help mate?
    spit would contain other material. how are you seeing the virus you claim you separated again? your camera must be amazing. you should quit while you are ahead

    I’ve already shown it to you, pay attention man. I put a photo up of it.

    Plus there was no spit after I isolated the virus by using the sieve. I’m beginning to doubt whether you even read these responses, or if your scientific credentials are not what you imply they are. Are you able to post a copy of them by any chance?


    you are claiming to have isolated a virus with a sift & taken a photo of it with your camera & you are talking to me about credentials. you really are a funny guy

    Well, I have taken a lot of time and trouble to isolate the virus and to prove it can be caught through the air and off surfaces. You must agree with that surely? I’ve pretty much nailed it

    I have been open and transparent about my scientific methodology and the specialist apparatus I used throughout the experiment. Yes, I used my camera to record the virus, but don't forget it was pretty much zoomed in to the max. It is a very good phone

    I got decent results in my Science GCSE exams, and I am a registered Fire Marshall at work so I think I am qualified to carry out this experiment and also that my scientifically proven results should be accepted. You can't seriously have spent 42 pages asking somebody to do this and then start quibbling about small details when they do, or what was the point of asking it so many times?

    That would be really mean after all my hard work. My wife is pissed off because I used the sieve already so don't make it all futile

    I was genuinely asking about your credentials though, just so I can be assured that you are properly qualified to peer-review my work, and arent just some random internet guy making nonsensical arguments, bringing in more blockers and caveats after the event, and then refusing to accept facts when they are presented to them.

    Obviously, I dont think you are that, but (speaking as one scientist to another) you will admit that the logical possibility does exist, no matter how far fetched that might be?
    saying it's a very good phone is all i need to ignore your bullshit. i could pick you to bits but it would be a waste of my time. it is strange though that all those here that hold the same belief as you are not calling out your bullshit
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Yeah, it definitely hasn't enjoyed being isolated. It's behaviour has changed markedly, it seems to be scratching its fur a lot and is noticeably unhappy.

    I would triumphantly conclude that, having provably isolated the virus now, I need to show how you can catch it from a surface or through the air.

    I tried shoving the virus up my nose but it wouldn't quite fit in my nostril. I think TIC might have been onto something all along now as I can't see how you could physically catch the virus from inhaling it - which means that all those anti-maskers might be right after all.

    Of course, having the virus stuck in your nose might technically count as 'catching it' and thus actually being infected? That is clearly why infected people are immune (obviously having a virus blocking each nostril means that nothing else can get in, so you are immune)

    In a startling new development ..... I have also established the cause of so-called 'long covid' too.

    As part of my experiment to see if one could catch my newly isolated virus from a surface, I also licked it up and swallowed it yesterday. This morning, I have discovered that the virus is now lodged and is blocking my anus so I can't have a poo.

    Logically, I will not now be able to expel that virus from my body for some time now ............ so I have long Covid.

    I will keep you all informed of my continuing ground breaking research in due course!
    you haven't outlined your processes describing the isolation of the covid nineteen aka sars cov two virus in human beings, directly from a sample taken from a patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material. note the word isolate indicates a thing is separated from all other material surrounding it. you are an example for titofan of one party not acting in good faith


    That's a bit unfair, mate. You didn't ask for all that stuff, you just wanted proof that the virus had been isolated by me and that I could show how it could be passed on from surfaces or the air.

    You can see that I have gone to a whole load of effort to do that, post the photos and explain my findings from my experiments.

    Surely it's cheating a bit to now say all this stuff after the event? That's an example of somebody not acting in good faith, not me.

    You've hurt my feelings a bit, to be honest.
    Anyway, I will persevere in good faith.

    My neighbour has COVID (and I know this because he took a government test. Our government over here never lies about anything so it was definitely a COVID positive sample.).

    I got him to spit into a teacup and kept his spit isolated from anything else (for example, I was very careful not to make a cup of tea in that cup)

    I made absolutely certain that I didn't inadvertently contaminate the sample (say, by masturbating into it) either, so I am sure that it is pure genetic material from the patient and not combined with any other genetic material. Like spunk.

    I found a large kitchen sieve and, wearing my gardening gloves and a welding mask, I very carefully passed the material through the sieve. The virus remained in the sieve and I separated this out. I remembered the sage advice from president Trump and put the virus into a shoebox (because it is dark in there) and kept the shoebox well away from bleach.

    That's how I did it, and hopefully you can see that it was done scientifically, and that it provides you with the reassurance you need.

    So you can see that I have acted in good faith and gone to a great deal of time and trouble to follow your guidelines and requirements for a proper and complete scientific experiment that I think proves the things you were asking for. Does that help mate?
    spit would contain other material. how are you seeing the virus you claim you separated again? your camera must be amazing. you should quit while you are ahead

    I’ve already shown it to you, pay attention man. I put a photo up of it.

    Plus there was no spit after I isolated the virus by using the sieve. I’m beginning to doubt whether you even read these responses, or if your scientific credentials are not what you imply they are. Are you able to post a copy of them by any chance?


    you are claiming to have isolated a virus with a sift & taken a photo of it with your camera & you are talking to me about credentials. you really are a funny guy

    Well, I have taken a lot of time and trouble to isolate the virus and to prove it can be caught through the air and off surfaces. You must agree with that surely? I’ve pretty much nailed it

    I have been open and transparent about my scientific methodology and the specialist apparatus I used throughout the experiment. Yes, I used my camera to record the virus, but don't forget it was pretty much zoomed in to the max. It is a very good phone

    I got decent results in my Science GCSE exams, and I am a registered Fire Marshall at work so I think I am qualified to carry out this experiment and also that my scientifically proven results should be accepted. You can't seriously have spent 42 pages asking somebody to do this and then start quibbling about small details when they do, or what was the point of asking it so many times?

    That would be really mean after all my hard work. My wife is pissed off because I used the sieve already so don't make it all futile

    I was genuinely asking about your credentials though, just so I can be assured that you are properly qualified to peer-review my work, and arent just some random internet guy making nonsensical arguments, bringing in more blockers and caveats after the event, and then refusing to accept facts when they are presented to them.

    Obviously, I dont think you are that, but (speaking as one scientist to another) you will admit that the logical possibility does exist, no matter how far fetched that might be?
    saying it's a very good phone is all i need to ignore your bullshit. i could pick you to bits but it would be a waste of my time. it is strange though that all those here that hold the same belief as you are not calling out your bullshit

    No please don’t do that …. I don’t think I could cope with being humiliated and skewered on the razor sharp edge of your intellect. I didn’t come on here to be picked to bits, only to prove that the virus can be isolated and caught through the air and off a surface. I’m pretty sure I have done that now, and proven it.

    To be honest, I don’t think the make of my phone made much difference, as I got a photo of the virus using my wife’s phone too. It’s not as good as mine, and I wanted the sharpest possible photo so I could prove it. You have asked for this proof for ages, so I thought I was helping!

    Its an iPhone 7 if that helps though
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    Hey, wait a minute …. If people held the same belief as me (and I will overlook the fact I have just indisputably proven it on this very thread) ….. then why would they feel the need to call it out as bullshit?

    Now, I’m definitely confused. You’ve tied me in knots here.
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    I work with a woman was vaccinated, the boosters and the lot, and kept feeling like shit and kept being told she had covid. Turned out she was very anemic.
    The woman that runs the pharmacy in my store tested positive. She bullied her doctor to prescribe Ivermectin and she tested negative within 48 hours.
    I had covid in November. My doctor told me to let it run its course. I was very sick for 3 days and it took me about 10 days to recover. Why didn't my doctor give me Ivermectin of hydroxychloroquine?
    I have been much sicker than I was from covid, though it was 20 years ago.
    I have to be honest...if you are that afraid of getting sick, grow a pair. If you are that afraid of dying...nobody doesn't die. You can't escape it. Go out and get on with it.
    Wear six masks, worry about silly shit. YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ANYWAY. If you die with dirty drawers because you shit yourself...if you die with wet pants because you peed on yourself....

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    I work with a woman was vaccinated, the boosters and the lot, and kept feeling like shit and kept being told she had covid. Turned out she was very anemic.
    The woman that runs the pharmacy in my store tested positive. She bullied her doctor to prescribe Ivermectin and she tested negative within 48 hours.
    I had covid in November. My doctor told me to let it run its course. I was very sick for 3 days and it took me about 10 days to recover. Why didn't my doctor give me Ivermectin of hydroxychloroquine?
    I have been much sicker than I was from covid, though it was 20 years ago.
    I have to be honest...if you are that afraid of getting sick, grow a pair. If you are that afraid of dying...nobody doesn't die. You can't escape it. Go out and get on with it.
    Wear six masks, worry about silly shit. YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ANYWAY. If you die with dirty drawers because you shit yourself...if you die with wet pants because you peed on yourself....
    Great to hear from you again. I think most people here have been getting on with their life despite Covid. Obviously earlier on when strains were more virulent and it was less well understood restrictions made a lot of jobs more difficult or impossible, but vaccinated or not most do get on with living. When I got it I am pretty sure it was the milder Omicron version and it was just like flu with a few weird symptoms on top. I was pretty brachicardic for a day or so after thinking I was out of it, but nothing too bad.

    Most friends and family I know are vaccinated but I have a few mates who have chosen not to be. They are still friends and in fact I shared very small rehearsal studios with two of them for a few weeks. Plenty came to our Wedding and we never insisted anyone had to wear a mask if they did not want to. We are all adults and can agree to disagree. My own daughter has chosen not to be vaccinated and given that when she had it, it was touch and go, that vexes me, but it is her decision.
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    Yes, i also know quite a few people who also have a belief that the virus has not been isolated and cannot be caught through the air and from surfaces, so they havent had any vaccines.

    I have not shown them the verified and definite outcome of my experiment yet, as that might change their minds.

    In the meantime though, and even if they choose to ignore my scientific results , belittle my camera and keep asking stupid questions, go back and ask for additional evidence afterwards, or display the IQ of a small coffee bean .... good luck to them, they are still my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    I work with a woman was vaccinated, the boosters and the lot, and kept feeling like shit and kept being told she had covid. Turned out she was very anemic.
    The woman that runs the pharmacy in my store tested positive. She bullied her doctor to prescribe Ivermectin and she tested negative within 48 hours.
    I had covid in November. My doctor told me to let it run its course. I was very sick for 3 days and it took me about 10 days to recover. Why didn't my doctor give me Ivermectin of hydroxychloroquine?
    I have been much sicker than I was from covid, though it was 20 years ago.
    I have to be honest...if you are that afraid of getting sick, grow a pair. If you are that afraid of dying...nobody doesn't die. You can't escape it. Go out and get on with it.
    Wear six masks, worry about silly shit. YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ANYWAY. If you die with dirty drawers because you shit yourself...if you die with wet pants because you peed on yourself....
    Hey, if I could chime in on the ivermectin, remedies...

    I've come to the conclusion it is the way it is being used that has allowed so many people to either get infected, ill or die.
    I accept that taking Ivermectin is similar to a boxer training.
    A boxer can't wait till the week of the fight to train.
    A person can't wait for a pandemic to expect anything to kick in - and work.

    Similar to those who drink orange juice (vitamin C)...after they catch the flu.
    Hydroxystuff to Ivermectin are the things people should use to boost their immune system, not stop a virus. None of it is proved to stop viruses nor diseases, rather they exist on this earth for us to maintain health.

    I think that is why so many Red state people die from covid (especially all those radio DJs, rightwing pastors that died- I did a list here, something like a dozen major figures swore by it...then died)


    A minister I respect has a Covid Kit which Ivermectin is a part of. But the caution is this_ it is to boost our immune system which in turn fights to ward off diseases and viruses.
    For example-IMO If our bodies can't kick marijuana out our system-- detectable by a hair follicle for six months!?!, then it is probable, that our bodies can't just kick out covid by injecting, eating or drinking something a few weeks before catching it.

    I think it is also probable the woman who tested negative would have tested negative anyways...it seems her immune system was strong enough. Just an opinion Ivermectin has failed just as many as it seemed to help--but if a person is in to rightwing, then I think they will believe ivermectin can cure in 48 hours. I do apologize in that you may think it did help her, my point isnt to argue you, just offer another perspective that her Immune system should be taken into consideration-- since so many nations have conducted tests showing that almost everyone who recovered from covid had high levels of all vitamins , zinc included.
    Those who die usually are deficient in one of more of vitamins A, B, D, zinc.

    It saddens me, Dr. Fauci in USA refuses to tell us of the many tests that prove so. And I also disagree that we have a right to tell doctors & hospitals what we want.
    But there is a huge block in USA between what an immune system CAN do. versus what remedies can do. And politics aka ideology rule such a discussion. sad.
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    I accept full responsibility for what this has become.

    I'll self ban
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    Hey, wait a minute …. If people held the same belief as me (and I will overlook the fact I have just indisputably proven it on this very thread) ….. then why would they feel the need to call it out as bullshit?

    Now, I’m definitely confused. You’ve tied me in knots here.
    people hold the same belief that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces. they should be able to clearly see that your claimed attempt to isolate convid is pathetic & if they are really interested in truth they would call it out for the bullshit that it is
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    TIC you admitted to living in a town with less than 300 people in Oz and then spent two years pretending the rest of the world must be lying because the only thing you caught was a bad case of stupidity. You accuse everyone else of just holding a belief and not knowing things unlike you... after asking whether Elton John and The Queen are the same person.

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    TIC you admitted to living in a town with less than 300 people in Oz and then spent two years pretending the rest of the world must be lying because the only thing you caught was a bad case of stupidity. You accuse everyone else of just holding a belief and not knowing things unlike you... after asking whether Elton John and The Queen are the same person.

    TIC- All the self awareness of a dog licking it's own bollocks in public.
    i have accused the rest of the world of lying, only for each person i respond to here to prove their belief. i don't think you are lying. you just believe. i am asking how you know. because if you can prove how you know then i can verify that & then i will know as well. the elton & the queen thing was posted under conspiracies. it is not my claim that they are the same spastic. why are you bringing in red herrings to distract from you proving your belief? you are such a weak insecure sperg that you can't admit that you only hold belief
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Yeah, it definitely hasn't enjoyed being isolated. It's behaviour has changed markedly, it seems to be scratching its fur a lot and is noticeably unhappy.

    I would triumphantly conclude that, having provably isolated the virus now, I need to show how you can catch it from a surface or through the air.

    I tried shoving the virus up my nose but it wouldn't quite fit in my nostril. I think TIC might have been onto something all along now as I can't see how you could physically catch the virus from inhaling it - which means that all those anti-maskers might be right after all.

    Of course, having the virus stuck in your nose might technically count as 'catching it' and thus actually being infected? That is clearly why infected people are immune (obviously having a virus blocking each nostril means that nothing else can get in, so you are immune)

    In a startling new development ..... I have also established the cause of so-called 'long covid' too.

    As part of my experiment to see if one could catch my newly isolated virus from a surface, I also licked it up and swallowed it yesterday. This morning, I have discovered that the virus is now lodged and is blocking my anus so I can't have a poo.

    Logically, I will not now be able to expel that virus from my body for some time now ............ so I have long Covid.

    I will keep you all informed of my continuing ground breaking research in due course!
    you haven't outlined your processes describing the isolation of the covid nineteen aka sars cov two virus in human beings, directly from a sample taken from a patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material. note the word isolate indicates a thing is separated from all other material surrounding it. you are an example for titofan of one party not acting in good faith


    That's a bit unfair, mate. You didn't ask for all that stuff, you just wanted proof that the virus had been isolated by me and that I could show how it could be passed on from surfaces or the air.

    You can see that I have gone to a whole load of effort to do that, post the photos and explain my findings from my experiments.

    Surely it's cheating a bit to now say all this stuff after the event? That's an example of somebody not acting in good faith, not me.

    You've hurt my feelings a bit, to be honest.
    Anyway, I will persevere in good faith.

    My neighbour has COVID (and I know this because he took a government test. Our government over here never lies about anything so it was definitely a COVID positive sample.).

    I got him to spit into a teacup and kept his spit isolated from anything else (for example, I was very careful not to make a cup of tea in that cup)

    I made absolutely certain that I didn't inadvertently contaminate the sample (say, by masturbating into it) either, so I am sure that it is pure genetic material from the patient and not combined with any other genetic material. Like spunk.

    I found a large kitchen sieve and, wearing my gardening gloves and a welding mask, I very carefully passed the material through the sieve. The virus remained in the sieve and I separated this out. I remembered the sage advice from president Trump and put the virus into a shoebox (because it is dark in there) and kept the shoebox well away from bleach.

    That's how I did it, and hopefully you can see that it was done scientifically, and that it provides you with the reassurance you need.

    So you can see that I have acted in good faith and gone to a great deal of time and trouble to follow your guidelines and requirements for a proper and complete scientific experiment that I think proves the things you were asking for. Does that help mate?
    spit would contain other material. how are you seeing the virus you claim you separated again? your camera must be amazing. you should quit while you are ahead

    I’ve already shown it to you, pay attention man. I put a photo up of it.

    Plus there was no spit after I isolated the virus by using the sieve. I’m beginning to doubt whether you even read these responses, or if your scientific credentials are not what you imply they are. Are you able to post a copy of them by any chance?


    you are claiming to have isolated a virus with a sift & taken a photo of it with your camera & you are talking to me about credentials. you really are a funny guy

    Well, I have taken a lot of time and trouble to isolate the virus and to prove it can be caught through the air and off surfaces. You must agree with that surely? I’ve pretty much nailed it

    I have been open and transparent about my scientific methodology and the specialist apparatus I used throughout the experiment. Yes, I used my camera to record the virus, but don't forget it was pretty much zoomed in to the max. It is a very good phone

    I got decent results in my Science GCSE exams, and I am a registered Fire Marshall at work so I think I am qualified to carry out this experiment and also that my scientifically proven results should be accepted. You can't seriously have spent 42 pages asking somebody to do this and then start quibbling about small details when they do, or what was the point of asking it so many times?

    That would be really mean after all my hard work. My wife is pissed off because I used the sieve already so don't make it all futile

    I was genuinely asking about your credentials though, just so I can be assured that you are properly qualified to peer-review my work, and arent just some random internet guy making nonsensical arguments, bringing in more blockers and caveats after the event, and then refusing to accept facts when they are presented to them.

    Obviously, I dont think you are that, but (speaking as one scientist to another) you will admit that the logical possibility does exist, no matter how far fetched that might be?
    saying it's a very good phone is all i need to ignore your bullshit. i could pick you to bits but it would be a waste of my time. it is strange though that all those here that hold the same belief as you are not calling out your bullshit

    No please don’t do that …. I don’t think I could cope with being humiliated and skewered on the razor sharp edge of your intellect. I didn’t come on here to be picked to bits, only to prove that the virus can be isolated and caught through the air and off a surface. I’m pretty sure I have done that now, and proven it.

    To be honest, I don’t think the make of my phone made much difference, as I got a photo of the virus using my wife’s phone too. It’s not as good as mine, and I wanted the sharpest possible photo so I could prove it. You have asked for this proof for ages, so I thought I was helping!

    Its an iPhone 7 if that helps though
    you haven't proven anything & attempt was pathetic. i'll assume you are trying to be funny, because you are obviously not interested in an honest discussion. it would have been easier just to admit you hold a belief
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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