Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[TitoFan]

you see an illness & call it cancer, i just see an illness & call it illness or disease. so yes illness & disease is real. calling it a particular name does not solve the cause.

Stick to COVID... because when you venture out into other medical topics, you're automatically on thin ice.

"Calling a disease a particular name" may not "solve the cause", as you curiously state. But it does serve to identify it and differentiate it from other diseases... thus allowing for treatment options and cures. What is the problem with calling cancer by its given name? Would you prefer another name? Whatever your preference, the fact is cancer is an illness as old as humanity itself, and has been studied probably more than any other disease in the history of the world. So I would limit my utterances to COVID, if I were you. Venturing out into other diseases does nothing to help your argument. It does, however... bolster all the counterarguments you've been getting over dozens of pages.

Let's be real, shall we? You yourself have many beliefs in life that do not come from personal experiments you've performed. You've been taught many facts in the fields of science, math, history, and other topics. Presumably. You weren't there for any of the history events you accept as fact. Following your logic, anyone could challenge you on any knowledge you have if you weren't personally there, or performed the experiment yourself.

I've removed myself from the COVID argument because it's pointless. An argument cannot be had unless both parts are acting in good faith and go into the argument with an open mind. You might be able to do that in other topics... but it's been abundantly clear from the get-go that COVID isn't one of those topics. It's emotional for you... and the more arguments you hear... the more you dig in your heels.

So you will go on believing what you wish, and that's quite alright.

You know what, though? There is no burden of proof here. This isn't a trial. It's not a debate of any meaning or consequence. We don't know each other. What you believe doesn't make an iota of difference in the big picture. There are enough of "us" that vaccines are being administered... research is still being conducted... remedial medicines are still being developed. Your existence and your thought process doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the overall. So what does it matter what any of us thinks? Your insistence that we somehow have to "prove" anything to you is not only disrespectful to a whole bunch of people here... but it's also comical when you consider just about everyone here has said they're not interested in convincing you of anything. I've said as much dozens of times... yet you continue to write as though convincing you was my life's goal. In reality, I couldn't give less of a shit what you think.

I will say this, however. Your method of argument consists of repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

This, in my opinion, does little for your credibility.

[Beanz]

An essential part of knowing is knowing who to trust. Often those insisting they are independent thinkers are those most open to be misled because they have not grasped this.

[TIC]

you see an illness & call it cancer, i just see an illness & call it illness or disease. so yes illness & disease is real. calling it a particular name does not solve the cause.

Stick to COVID... because when you venture out into other medical topics, you're automatically on thin ice.

"Calling a disease a particular name" may not "solve the cause", as you curiously state. But it does serve to identify it and differentiate it from other diseases... thus allowing for treatment options and cures. What is the problem with calling cancer by its given name? Would you prefer another name? Whatever your preference, the fact is cancer is an illness as old as humanity itself, and has been studied probably more than any other disease in the history of the world. So I would limit my utterances to COVID, if I were you. Venturing out into other diseases does nothing to help your argument. It does, however... bolster all the counterarguments you've been getting over dozens of pages.

Let's be real, shall we? You yourself have many beliefs in life that do not come from personal experiments you've performed. You've been taught many facts in the fields of science, math, history, and other topics. Presumably. You weren't there for any of the history events you accept as fact. Following your logic, anyone could challenge you on any knowledge you have if you weren't personally there, or performed the experiment yourself.

I've removed myself from the COVID argument because it's pointless. An argument cannot be had unless both parts are acting in good faith and go into the argument with an open mind. You might be able to do that in other topics... but it's been abundantly clear from the get-go that COVID isn't one of those topics. It's emotional for you... and the more arguments you hear... the more you dig in your heels.

So you will go on believing what you wish, and that's quite alright.

You know what, though? There is no burden of proof here. This isn't a trial. It's not a debate of any meaning or consequence. We don't know each other. What you believe doesn't make an iota of difference in the big picture. There are enough of "us" that vaccines are being administered... research is still being conducted... remedial medicines are still being developed. Your existence and your thought process doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the overall. So what does it matter what any of us thinks? Your insistence that we somehow have to "prove" anything to you is not only disrespectful to a whole bunch of people here... but it's also comical when you consider just about everyone here has said they're not interested in convincing you of anything. I've said as much dozens of times... yet you continue to write as though convincing you was my life's goal. In reality, I couldn't give less of a shit what you think.

I will say this, however. Your method of argument consists of repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

This, in my opinion, does little for your credibility.

i don't care what a disease is called but it is an illness or disease. i am interested in the cause. i was asked a question by primo carnera about cancer. that is why i responded about diseases & illnesses. i understand the difference between believing & knowing. if i haven't verified something myself to be true then i only have faith & a belief in what i have been told. i don't know that to be true. i am acting in good faith in this discussion with you & i have an open mind. i have asked you to start the discussion from the beginning claim & how you know that to be true. you & primo carnera are the only two that admit you only trust & believe that to be true. you are free to believe what you want. you & family members being ill & having symptoms & believing a faulty test is not you proving the claim that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces. as i have said before, correlation does not prove causation. you can keep your belief all you want but that investigation is not good enough for me regarding the claims of covid. i don't believe the claims about covid & am asking those that claim to know it's real to provide proof of how they know this to be true. there is a burden of proof when someone is claiming to know something is real & that burden falls on those making that claim. it doesn't matter to me what you think or believe, i am only interested in what you can prove. i don't think it's disrespectful at all to ask someone to prove their claim is true. no one would need to convince me if they could prove their claim is real. you have admitted you have a belief. it is your right to hold that belief. that's where our discussion ends because you can't prove your belief to be true

[SlimTrae]

you see an illness & call it cancer, i just see an illness & call it illness or disease. so yes illness & disease is real. calling it a particular name does not solve the cause.

Stick to COVID... because when you venture out into other medical topics, you're automatically on thin ice.


I will say this, however. Your method of argument consists of repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

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Personally I think you're off by several dozens of (over and over)but whose counting?!

I have yet to figure out the phrase covid is a virus caught from outside the body,--------Tfan what does that mean to you? Is our body acting like a star with a gravitational pull causing a virus (from outside) the body to go inside? Why? Or, Is it a -liberal-minority-hobo virus looking for a free place to crash like the entitled minority viruses they know they are!?
Why would it not just stay outside the body...

and is that different from viruses caught (once inside) the body?

through the air or off surfaces?
I can't figure that one either. So diseases dont attract from the air, or off surfaces? But viruses do? That's not what Lysol claims! For years!

If funky feet can enter from outside the body through the air into the nostrils...if a stank ass fart can enter the body from the air- into the nostrils into the body...then it seems probable that viruses can enter from outside...through the air as you seem to suggest & I concur....unless they have little tiny star trek transporter rooms, then bets are all off as to exactly what is inside our bodies we dont know!


Sir I think....Here are the facts from a Saddo perspective
1. When this covid was mentioned there were only 2 perspectives.
1st- it is real
2nd it is real but overblown by the mainstream media


No one here on this board or this thread fit outside of those two for months. NONE.
1/2 year later something changed?

[TIC]

you see an illness & call it cancer, i just see an illness & call it illness or disease. so yes illness & disease is real. calling it a particular name does not solve the cause.

Stick to COVID... because when you venture out into other medical topics, you're automatically on thin ice.


I will say this, however. Your method of argument consists of repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

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Personally I think you're off by several dozens of (over and over)but whose counting?!

I have yet to figure out the phrase covid is a virus caught from outside the body,--------Tfan what does that mean to you? Is our body acting like a star with a gravitational pull causing a virus (from outside) the body to go inside? Why? Or, Is it a -liberal-minority-hobo virus looking for a free place to crash like the entitled minority viruses they know they are!?
Why would it not just stay outside the body...

and is that different from viruses caught (once inside) the body?

through the air or off surfaces?
I can't figure that one either. So diseases dont attract from the air, or off surfaces? But viruses do? That's not what Lysol claims! For years!

If funky feet can enter from outside the body through the air into the nostrils...if a stank ass fart can enter the body from the air- into the nostrils into the body...then it seems probable that viruses can enter from outside...through the air as you seem to suggest & I concur....unless they have little tiny star trek transporter rooms, then bets are all off as to exactly what is inside our bodies we dont know!


Sir I think....Here are the facts from a Saddo perspective
1. When this covid was mentioned there were only 2 perspectives.
1st- it is real
2nd it is real but overblown by the mainstream media


No one here on this board or this thread fit outside of those two for months. NONE.
1/2 year later something changed?

the question is how do you know that covid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces? strange you left out the most important part of the question. because it will show you only hold a belief. none of what you are saying is proof of how you know your belief to be true. i said before convid was categorized as a pandemic to look out for a fake virus, on this forum. December twenty sixth. two thousand nineteen

[SlimTrae]

you see an illness & call it cancer, i just see an illness & call it illness or disease. so yes illness & disease is real. calling it a particular name does not solve the cause.

Stick to COVID... because when you venture out into other medical topics, you're automatically on thin ice.


I will say this, however. Your method of argument consists of repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

.

Personally I think you're off by several dozens of (over and over)but whose counting?!

I have yet to figure out the phrase covid is a virus caught from outside the body,--------Tfan what does that mean to you? Is our body acting like a star with a gravitational pull causing a virus (from outside) the body to go inside? Why? Or, Is it a -liberal-minority-hobo virus looking for a free place to crash like the entitled minority viruses they know they are!?
Why would it not just stay outside the body...

and is that different from viruses caught (once inside) the body?

through the air or off surfaces?
I can't figure that one either. So diseases dont attract from the air, or off surfaces? But viruses do? That's not what Lysol claims! For years!

If funky feet can enter from outside the body through the air into the nostrils...if a stank ass fart can enter the body from the air- into the nostrils into the body...then it seems probable that viruses can enter from outside...through the air as you seem to suggest & I concur....unless they have little tiny star trek transporter rooms, then bets are all off as to exactly what is inside our bodies we dont know!


Sir I think....Here are the facts from a Saddo perspective
1. When this covid was mentioned there were only 2 perspectives.
1st- it is real
2nd it is real but overblown by the mainstream media


No one here on this board or this thread fit outside of those two for months. NONE.
1/2 year later something changed?

the question is how do you know that covid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces? strange you left out the most important part of the question. (THAT I HAD TO IGNORE YOUR MENTIONING IT -SO I NEED YOU TO BOLD IT HIGHLIGHT IT- CHANGE THE SIZE SO I CAN SEE HOW OFTEN YOU DID MENTION IT...AND I INGORED IT....JUST LIKE I IGNORED WHEN YOU POINTED OUT HOW I REPEATEDLY STATED IT EXISTED...SO I USED MAINSTREAM NEWS NUMBERS TO VALIDATE IT......YOU KNOW THE SAME MAINSTREAM I THINK IS FAKE

Never care to discuss boxing, but always these types of posts and comments. Sad.

[TIC]

you see an illness & call it cancer, i just see an illness & call it illness or disease. so yes illness & disease is real. calling it a particular name does not solve the cause.

Stick to COVID... because when you venture out into other medical topics, you're automatically on thin ice.


I will say this, however. Your method of argument consists of repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

.

Personally I think you're off by several dozens of (over and over)but whose counting?!

I have yet to figure out the phrase covid is a virus caught from outside the body,--------Tfan what does that mean to you? Is our body acting like a star with a gravitational pull causing a virus (from outside) the body to go inside? Why? Or, Is it a -liberal-minority-hobo virus looking for a free place to crash like the entitled minority viruses they know they are!?
Why would it not just stay outside the body...

and is that different from viruses caught (once inside) the body?

through the air or off surfaces?
I can't figure that one either. So diseases dont attract from the air, or off surfaces? But viruses do? That's not what Lysol claims! For years!

If funky feet can enter from outside the body through the air into the nostrils...if a stank ass fart can enter the body from the air- into the nostrils into the body...then it seems probable that viruses can enter from outside...through the air as you seem to suggest & I concur....unless they have little tiny star trek transporter rooms, then bets are all off as to exactly what is inside our bodies we dont know!


Sir I think....Here are the facts from a Saddo perspective
1. When this covid was mentioned there were only 2 perspectives.
1st- it is real
2nd it is real but overblown by the mainstream media


No one here on this board or this thread fit outside of those two for months. NONE.
1/2 year later something changed?

the question is how do you know that covid is a virus caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces? strange you left out the most important part of the question. (THAT I HAD TO IGNORE YOUR MENTIONING IT -SO I NEED YOU TO BOLD IT HIGHLIGHT IT- CHANGE THE SIZE SO I CAN SEE HOW OFTEN YOU DID MENTION IT...AND I INGORED IT....JUST LIKE I IGNORED WHEN YOU POINTED OUT HOW I REPEATEDLY STATED IT EXISTED...SO I USED MAINSTREAM NEWS NUMBERS TO VALIDATE IT......YOU KNOW THE SAME MAINSTREAM I THINK IS FAKE

Never care to discuss boxing, but always these types of posts and comments. Sad.

it's sad that you are triggered because your belief is being challenged & you can't prove it to be true & you are not able to admit you only hold a belief

[Spicoli]

Not sure why, but seems to fit for both fronts in what has become a competitive sport of a topic

[TIC]

alleded vaccine injures are starting to be reported on mainstream news

[TIC]

why have people stopped posting about their booster shots? surely everyone is keeping them updated. don't worry, another batch of variants will be made up to keep you afraid & get you to role up your sleeves for more jabs. i miss the virtual signalling