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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.

    100%.

    Which is why I'm not gonna fall into the same trap others continue to fall into with this other topic that shall remain unnamed, lest we start something here in the Boxing board.

    When you have to play semantics and split insignificant hairs to make a point... you've already lost the argument.



    (BTW, I don't agree that he's good at semantics. Semantics is a discipline, defined as such:

    "Semantics is the study of reference, meaning, or truth.
    The term can be used to refer to subfields of several distinct disciplines, including philosophy, linguistics and computer science."


    I think TIC just likes being contrary without offering any real substance to his point. He feels that by raw repetition of the same wordage, he's accomplishing something, when in actuality he's not.)
    Last edited by TitoFan; 02-22-2022 at 04:30 PM.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.

    100%.

    Which is why I'm not gonna fall into the same trap others continue to fall into with this other topic that shall remain unnamed, lest we start something here in the Boxing board.

    When you have to play semantics and split insignificant hairs to make a point... you've already lost the argument.



    (BTW, I don't agree that he's good at semantics. Semantics is a discipline, defined as such:

    "Semantics is the study of reference, meaning, or truth.
    The term can be used to refer to subfields of several distinct disciplines, including philosophy, linguistics and computer science."


    I think TIC just likes being contrary without offering any real substance to his point. He feels that by raw repetition of the same wordage, he's accomplishing something, when in actuality he's not.)
    if you think antonio is a cheater for attempting to cheat i have no issue with your opinion. that wasn't my question though. i asked what fight did he cheat in. the fight only starts once the bell rings. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.

    100%.

    Which is why I'm not gonna fall into the same trap others continue to fall into with this other topic that shall remain unnamed, lest we start something here in the Boxing board.

    When you have to play semantics and split insignificant hairs to make a point... you've already lost the argument.



    (BTW, I don't agree that he's good at semantics. Semantics is a discipline, defined as such:

    "Semantics is the study of reference, meaning, or truth.
    The term can be used to refer to subfields of several distinct disciplines, including philosophy, linguistics and computer science."


    I think TIC just likes being contrary without offering any real substance to his point. He feels that by raw repetition of the same wordage, he's accomplishing something, when in actuality he's not.)
    if you think antonio is a cheater for attempting to cheat i have no issue with your opinion. that wasn't my question though. i asked what fight did he cheat in. the fight only starts once the bell rings. so what fight did antonio cheat in?

    The fight prior to Shane was the first Cotto fight. Are we to believe his being caught trying to cheat before the Shane fight was an isolated incident? Can you prove he didn't cheat in the Cotto fight or even before that? And just didn't get caught?
    What was his career like after he got caught trying to cheat? Normally when you get caught trying to cheat you've already gotten away with it before.

    You have your opinion... I have mine.
    Let's leave it at that.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.

    100%.

    Which is why I'm not gonna fall into the same trap others continue to fall into with this other topic that shall remain unnamed, lest we start something here in the Boxing board.

    When you have to play semantics and split insignificant hairs to make a point... you've already lost the argument.



    (BTW, I don't agree that he's good at semantics. Semantics is a discipline, defined as such:

    "Semantics is the study of reference, meaning, or truth.
    The term can be used to refer to subfields of several distinct disciplines, including philosophy, linguistics and computer science."


    I think TIC just likes being contrary without offering any real substance to his point. He feels that by raw repetition of the same wordage, he's accomplishing something, when in actuality he's not.)
    if you think antonio is a cheater for attempting to cheat i have no issue with your opinion. that wasn't my question though. i asked what fight did he cheat in. the fight only starts once the bell rings. so what fight did antonio cheat in?

    The fight prior to Shane was the first Cotto fight. Are we to believe his being caught trying to cheat before the Shane fight was an isolated incident? Can you prove he didn't cheat in the Cotto fight or even before that? And just didn't get caught?
    What was his career like after he got caught trying to cheat? Normally when you get caught trying to cheat you've already gotten away with it before.

    You have your opinion... I have mine.
    Let's leave it at that.
    miguel quit like a bitch. you can believe what you want. your belief isn't proof. why would i need to prove he didn't cheat in the miguel fight or before that? it is not my claim he did. that claim would need to be proven. you always trying to shift the burden of proof. his career after shane is not proof of his cheating in a fight. your opinion is not proof
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?
    If I said the Cotto fight you will say he did not actually get caught. So what is the point of asking which "fight" when you know officially it is none.
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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?


    No. It is you who are missing the point, playing word games to justify the fact that you fully support a known cheater. That again, is your prerogative.

    But spare us your "merry-go-round" games like you do with the COVID issue.

    I realize that, playground style, you always need to have the last word... so you'll surely have some retort prepared that in essence doesn't prove a damn thing, other than the fact that you willingly overlook the FACTS of what happened and happily support a known cheater.

    Again... none of this surprises me.

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