Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

[TIC]

CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

"But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

"I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

"I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

"I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

"I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

"For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

"But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

"That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

"I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

"I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/

Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.

that was the plan i was aware of. dmitry first then ggg. regarding what happens next for canelo let's wait & see. i heard canelo was going to have surgery so i don't know when he'll be back. dmitry has zurdo in november. i'd actually prefer canelo to face david b or artur next. david b to basically cleanout one sixty eight & artur as he's number one for me at one seventy five & before artur hits the got old talk if not already around

All the injury talk came up after the fight. Before the fight “the plan” was to fight Bivol. If that’s the plan, you gotta stick with it.
That’s what you said when he fought the old fat guy at the weekend.
As for fighting Beterbiev, who you believe is #1, what gives Canelo the right to fight the #1 , when he lost convincingly to “#2” ?

so there is injury talk? do you have confirmation on when canelo will be back? i don't. i agree the plan before the ggg fight was to rematch dmitry at one seventy five. now things have changed a bit depending on when canelo is back. there is also i assume the difference of the contracts i guess. canelo agreed to the dmitry first & the ggg deal. i'm not sure on the dmitry rematch clause but judging by how things have gone i guess it is canelo's choice if he enforces it. dmitry has zurdo in november, i expect dmitry to win that. artur is supposed to fight in january. if canelo is going to be out until next september, i would like to see artur v dmitry if possible if that's the case. i didn't say canelo had a right to face artur next. i said i'd prefer to see canelo face artur next

[Primo Carnera]

CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

"But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

"I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

"I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

"I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

"I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

"For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

"But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

"That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

"I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

"I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/

Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.

that was the plan i was aware of. dmitry first then ggg. regarding what happens next for canelo let's wait & see. i heard canelo was going to have surgery so i don't know when he'll be back. dmitry has zurdo in november. i'd actually prefer canelo to face david b or artur next. david b to basically cleanout one sixty eight & artur as he's number one for me at one seventy five & before artur hits the got old talk if not already around

All the injury talk came up after the fight. Before the fight “the plan” was to fight Bivol. If that’s the plan, you gotta stick with it.
That’s what you said when he fought the old fat guy at the weekend.
As for fighting Beterbiev, who you believe is #1, what gives Canelo the right to fight the #1 , when he lost convincingly to “#2” ?

so there is injury talk? do you have confirmation on when canelo will be back? i don't. i agree the plan before the ggg fight was to rematch dmitry at one seventy five. now things have changed a bit depending on when canelo is back. there is also i assume the difference of the contracts i guess. canelo agreed to the dmitry first & the ggg deal. i'm not sure on the dmitry rematch clause but judging by how things have gone i guess it is canelo's choice if he enforces it. dmitry has zurdo in november, i expect dmitry to win that. artur is supposed to fight in january. if canelo is going to be out until next september, i would like to see artur v dmitry if possible if that's the case. i didn't say canelo had a right to face artur next. i said i'd prefer to see canelo face artur next

And I’d prefer Bivol v Beterbiev. 1 v 2 (whichever anyone believes is 1 & 2) Canelo is just a bystander at LHW. Leave it to the big boys.

[TIC]

CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

"But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

"I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

"I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

"I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

"I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

"For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

"But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

"That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

"I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

"I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/

Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.

that was the plan i was aware of. dmitry first then ggg. regarding what happens next for canelo let's wait & see. i heard canelo was going to have surgery so i don't know when he'll be back. dmitry has zurdo in november. i'd actually prefer canelo to face david b or artur next. david b to basically cleanout one sixty eight & artur as he's number one for me at one seventy five & before artur hits the got old talk if not already around

All the injury talk came up after the fight. Before the fight “the plan” was to fight Bivol. If that’s the plan, you gotta stick with it.
That’s what you said when he fought the old fat guy at the weekend.
As for fighting Beterbiev, who you believe is #1, what gives Canelo the right to fight the #1 , when he lost convincingly to “#2” ?

so there is injury talk? do you have confirmation on when canelo will be back? i don't. i agree the plan before the ggg fight was to rematch dmitry at one seventy five. now things have changed a bit depending on when canelo is back. there is also i assume the difference of the contracts i guess. canelo agreed to the dmitry first & the ggg deal. i'm not sure on the dmitry rematch clause but judging by how things have gone i guess it is canelo's choice if he enforces it. dmitry has zurdo in november, i expect dmitry to win that. artur is supposed to fight in january. if canelo is going to be out until next september, i would like to see artur v dmitry if possible if that's the case. i didn't say canelo had a right to face artur next. i said i'd prefer to see canelo face artur next

And I’d prefer Bivol v Beterbiev. 1 v 2 (whichever anyone believes is 1 & 2) Canelo is just a bystander at LHW. Leave it to the big boys.

i'd also prefer artur v dmitry. i don't think canelo is at his best at one seventy five but there are real challenges there for him

[Master]

Bivol v Beterbiev should face one another first and become undisputed. They are the big boys but will look like bullies not facing the biggest challenges in their own weight and waiting for Canelo.

Canelo should not move up until they do.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Bivol v Beterbiev should face one another first and become undisputed. They are the big boys but will look like bullies not facing the biggest challenges in their own weight and waiting for Canelo.

Canelo should not move up until they do.

If canela moves up he will get slaughtered like a lamb

[TitoFan]

https://www.boxingscene.com/andre-wa...canelo--169454


Andre Ward: Golovkin 'Literally Just Showed Up To Get A Check' Against Canelo


You da man, Andre!

Saying it like it is. No holds barred. Glad to see someone speaking out on this sham of a fight, which I decried since it was announced on Day One. I like Golovkin... but this was nothing but a 40-year old man cashing in before riding off into the sunset. All talk about his next opponents is premature. Wait for the upcoming retirement announcement and speech. GGG just wanted one more heyday against an opponent he was never going to beat because he had EVERYTHING stacked against him... including AGE.

My favorite part of the article:

“I thought Alvarez should have stopped that version of Golovkin,” Ward said on Max on Boxing. “If Canelo is who he says he is, an all-time great, you got to take advantage of a fighter like that, who literally just showed up to get a check.

Classic!

"If Canelo is who he says he is..." I LOVE this guy!!

Ward thought what I thought going into the fight. It was going to be a knockout win for Ginger. But for all the fierce talk from Ginger and the angry staredowns and the claims that he was going to "end" GGG's career (how the hell do you end something that's already over??)..... Canelo totally UNDERWHELMED. GGG went in for the payday... and Ginger didn't make him pay.

I hope he gets into the ring with Bivol again. Hell... give Benavidez a chance. But I forgot... Ginger doesn't fight Mexicans.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I knew that canelo would not be able to knock out triple G because triple G would not like to end his stellar career in such an embarrassing fashion and I knew that triple G had enough guile and savvy and ring experience to avoid being knocked out. So I really don't know if canelo "should" have knocked him out, and I put the word should in quotation marks there, because although he should have done it after all his braggadocio, I don't really think it's possible to knock out a fighter as Wiley and slick as triple G if he is going to fight a fight so cautiously that you cannot really make it happen against him.

I have no problem thinking that triple G just went in there to collect a paycheck at the age of 40. But I think he also wanted to embarrass canelo and make him look rather ordinary and he certainly succeeded in that.

[TIC]

"If Canelo is who he says he is..."

andre just mad that canelo is already greater than him

give Benavidez a chance. But I forgot... Ginger doesn't fight Mexicans.

is david b a mexican?

[Master]

Golovkin did well considering his age, moving up weight and taking on someone who has beaten top undefeated super middleweights in the division.

[TitoFan]

Golovkin did well considering his age, moving up weight and taking on someone who has beaten top undefeated super middleweights in the division.

Yes he did. But when you have to qualify a compliment with "considering..." it points to something not quite right.

Professional sports are supposed to be competitions between two individuals (or teams) at their best. This way the winner can claim something meaningful. IMHO, Canelo can't claim diddly squat from this victory. This isn't me dumping on GGG. This is me dumping on Canelo (as usual). I like GGG. Hell... if I had the chance to have a trilogy fight against someone I knew I had no chance of beating... while making boo coo millions so I could ride off into the sunset a hell of a lot richer... I'd go for it. But Canelo groupies (and Ginger himself) will obviously claim some legacy defining victory over something that was a foregone conclusion. I personally don't watch sporting events where the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

I predicted a knockout win for Canelo. It didn't happen because obviously GGG has a hell of a chin... but also because Canelo UNDERPERFORMED. He gets an F for not being able to dispose of an opponent he went to great lengths to say how much he hated. Canelo had the youth, the weight, the judges, the system... he had EVERYTHING stacked in his favor (as usual)... and couldn't put away a 40-year old man.

By the way, usually when you tell someone "You look good considering your age"... it's usually regarded as a backhanded compliment.