Bivol v Beterbiev should face one another first and become undisputed. They are the big boys but will look like bullies not facing the biggest challenges in their own weight and waiting for Canelo.
Canelo should not move up until they do.
Bivol v Beterbiev should face one another first and become undisputed. They are the big boys but will look like bullies not facing the biggest challenges in their own weight and waiting for Canelo.
Canelo should not move up until they do.
Last edited by Master; 09-23-2022 at 10:15 AM.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
https://www.boxingscene.com/andre-wa...canelo--169454
Andre Ward: Golovkin 'Literally Just Showed Up To Get A Check' Against Canelo
You da man, Andre!
Saying it like it is. No holds barred. Glad to see someone speaking out on this sham of a fight, which I decried since it was announced on Day One. I like Golovkin... but this was nothing but a 40-year old man cashing in before riding off into the sunset. All talk about his next opponents is premature. Wait for the upcoming retirement announcement and speech. GGG just wanted one more heyday against an opponent he was never going to beat because he had EVERYTHING stacked against him... including AGE.
My favorite part of the article:
“I thought Alvarez should have stopped that version of Golovkin,” Ward said on Max on Boxing. “If Canelo is who he says he is, an all-time great, you got to take advantage of a fighter like that, who literally just showed up to get a check.
Classic!
"If Canelo is who he says he is..." I LOVE this guy!!
Ward thought what I thought going into the fight. It was going to be a knockout win for Ginger. But for all the fierce talk from Ginger and the angry staredowns and the claims that he was going to "end" GGG's career (how the hell do you end something that's already over??)..... Canelo totally UNDERWHELMED. GGG went in for the payday... and Ginger didn't make him pay.
I hope he gets into the ring with Bivol again. Hell... give Benavidez a chance. But I forgot... Ginger doesn't fight Mexicans.![]()
I knew that canelo would not be able to knock out triple G because triple G would not like to end his stellar career in such an embarrassing fashion and I knew that triple G had enough guile and savvy and ring experience to avoid being knocked out. So I really don't know if canelo "should" have knocked him out, and I put the word should in quotation marks there, because although he should have done it after all his braggadocio, I don't really think it's possible to knock out a fighter as Wiley and slick as triple G if he is going to fight a fight so cautiously that you cannot really make it happen against him.
I have no problem thinking that triple G just went in there to collect a paycheck at the age of 40. But I think he also wanted to embarrass canelo and make him look rather ordinary and he certainly succeeded in that.
yes i say so in my opinion. it was a yes or no question, david b was either born in mexico or he wasn't. where does david b tell us he was born? on the bullshit catchweight stuff, i heard talk that dmitry could possibly fight canelo at one sixty eight. looking from dmitry's side why shouldn't he get the opportunity to fight for undisputed in another division if he wants too?
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Former Undisputed 4 belt Prediction champion. Still P4P and People’s Champion.
Golovkin did well considering his age, moving up weight and taking on someone who has beaten top undefeated super middleweights in the division.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Yes he did. But when you have to qualify a compliment with "considering..." it points to something not quite right.
Professional sports are supposed to be competitions between two individuals (or teams) at their best. This way the winner can claim something meaningful. IMHO, Canelo can't claim diddly squat from this victory. This isn't me dumping on GGG. This is me dumping on Canelo (as usual). I like GGG. Hell... if I had the chance to have a trilogy fight against someone I knew I had no chance of beating... while making boo coo millions so I could ride off into the sunset a hell of a lot richer... I'd go for it. But Canelo groupies (and Ginger himself) will obviously claim some legacy defining victory over something that was a foregone conclusion. I personally don't watch sporting events where the outcome is a foregone conclusion.
I predicted a knockout win for Canelo. It didn't happen because obviously GGG has a hell of a chin... but also because Canelo UNDERPERFORMED. He gets an F for not being able to dispose of an opponent he went to great lengths to say how much he hated. Canelo had the youth, the weight, the judges, the system... he had EVERYTHING stacked in his favor (as usual)... and couldn't put away a 40-year old man.
By the way, usually when you tell someone "You look good considering your age"... it's usually regarded as a backhanded compliment.![]()
I appreciate and accept your points Titofan.
Golovkin was beaten legitimately for the first time. Considering all the points I raised in my earlier post it was bitter sweet seeing a legend having to accept that he was just unable to beat Canelo.
Golovkin fought within himself and was never in trouble. Canelo did enough to win the majority of the early rounds when he picked up the pace and allowed Golovkin to win the latter rounds.
Whilst the standard of boxing was high there was no dramatic moments that made the 3rd fight a classic. It seemed they had a gentlemen's agreement to go through the motions and not hurt one another.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
that's another good point there. It DID seem like some kind of a tacit gentleman's agreement, it DID seem a little underwhelming on BOTH fighters' parts. Fishy.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
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