NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

[TIC]

i'm guessing the bills win the super bowl

They were pre-season favorites so it wouldn't be a stretch.

oh i didn't know that, thanks, pretty good guess then. it'd have a nice story behind it & the bills uniforms having the same colours as the american flag would be a nice cherry on the top

Yep. This weekend they host the Miami Dolphins (from the warm south) in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. The Dolphins are on their 3rd string quarterback, which doesn't bode well for them either.

Although the NFL has a saying that goes "On any given Sunday..." I'd say a Bills win is a pretty safe bet.

From there it's still to be decided who they would face in the Divisional Playoffs... the Conference Championships... and finally the Super Bowl, if they get that far.

I'll keep everyone posted.

sounds like something i should put money on. slightly off topic, do you think damar will ever play again? have there been other athletes who have returned to the top level, especially in contact sports after suffering the same type of medical emergency?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Wildest thread so far in '23

[TitoFan]

i'm guessing the bills win the super bowl

They were pre-season favorites so it wouldn't be a stretch.

oh i didn't know that, thanks, pretty good guess then. it'd have a nice story behind it & the bills uniforms having the same colours as the american flag would be a nice cherry on the top

Yep. This weekend they host the Miami Dolphins (from the warm south) in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. The Dolphins are on their 3rd string quarterback, which doesn't bode well for them either.

Although the NFL has a saying that goes "On any given Sunday..." I'd say a Bills win is a pretty safe bet.

From there it's still to be decided who they would face in the Divisional Playoffs... the Conference Championships... and finally the Super Bowl, if they get that far.

I'll keep everyone posted.

sounds like something i should put money on. slightly off topic, do you think damar will ever play again? have there been other athletes who have returned to the top level, especially in contact sports after suffering the same type of medical emergency?

Good question. I'm going to go out on a (very thin) limb and say that Damar could presumably resume his football career, especially if his physical recovery is complete and 100%. But I'm not sure about the mental aspect of it... and even what his family and friends would have to say about that. I put myself in his shoes and I'm not sure I ever step on a football field again. It was THAT scary of an incident.

In comparison, you have the case of Tua Tagovailoa, quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. He has suffered two documented concussions this season... and probably a third one that was not treated as a concussion. The second one was scary (coincidentally also in Cincinnati)... and Tua was removed from the field in an ambulance also. I've seen sports talk shows where they're theorizing that Tua's career could be in jeopardy. Which is tough for Tua, because he's only in his 2nd year in the league and stood to make tons of money since he's an extremely talented player.

So two young guys... two decisions as to what they should do with their football careers. In Damar's case, it's tough to get the specter of another blow to the chest triggering the same thing out of your head. In Tua's case, he seems a bit injury prone, and after two, maybe three concussions... early retirement might be on the table.

Not an easy sport... this one.

[TIC]

the hit he took was nothing, would the league allow him on the field again? do nfl players get insured? would an insurance company touch him, if they do? off topic, do you think this incident has increased interest & eyes on this part of the season?

[TitoFan]

the hit he took was nothing, would the league allow him on the field again? do nfl players get insured? would an insurance company touch him, if they do? off topic, do you think this incident has increased interest & eyes on this part of the season?

Good questions all.

Would the NFL allow Damar back on the field again? I venture to say yes, as long as he passed a rigorous battery of physical tests. Could be wrong, though... and that bridge has yet to be crossed. First though... Hamlin would have to want to get back on the field. That... IMO... is not a given.

Are NFL players insured? Yes. It's similar in form to the insurance plans offered by other employers. I'm pretty sure the NFLPA (NFL Players Association) has a huge hand in what goes into that insurance plan. I'm not sure how Damar's insurance would be affected going forward if he were to resume his playing career. We all know insurance companies' #1 priority is always their bottom line.

Your last question is very interesting. Yes... I'm of the opinion that interest in the playoffs has probably been magnified, stemming from the Damar incident. Hard to imagine... 'cause interest in the NFL playoffs are usually HUGE to begin with. So this added wrinkle (and the fact that the Bills are firmly still in the playoffs) is sure to have attracted the attention from people who wouldn't otherwise follow football.

I'm sure a lot of neutral football fans (no team preference) are now rooting for the Bills to win the Super Bowl this year. As I said before... it's not at all far-fetched, as they have one of the more complete teams in the NFL.

[palmerq]

I do wonder if he'll play again, Eriksen was pretty much dead on the field v Finland, got the AED and CPR on screen :S, he woke up and was speaking pretty much straight away, obviously went to the hospital and stayed there for a bit. He was give some form of pacemaker and then he was back playing normal football not long after.. wasn't allowed to play in the Italian league due to their rules but he moved to England and seems fine :S.. Daley blind also has the same device and is now playing for bayern..

Hamlin was on a ventilator though, sounds like his episode was worse than the two heart attack footballers, I'd guess he'll be able to play again but I think the NFL will block him from returning, they're in enough trouble with concussion if Hamlin drops dead that would damage their brand a lot(and that is what matters to these guys)

Also I'm supporting the Jaguars now, or as Austin Powers might call them..
The SHAGUARS BABY....groovy?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

True that, the Italians did ban Eriksen

[TIC]

I do wonder if he'll play again, Eriksen was pretty much dead on the field v Finland, got the AED and CPR on screen :S, he woke up and was speaking pretty much straight away, obviously went to the hospital and stayed there for a bit. He was give some form of pacemaker and then he was back playing normal football not long after.. wasn't allowed to play in the Italian league due to their rules but he moved to England and seems fine :S.. Daley blind also has the same device and is now playing for bayern..

Hamlin was on a ventilator though, sounds like his episode was worse than the two heart attack footballers, I'd guess he'll be able to play again but I think the NFL will block him from returning, they're in enough trouble with concussion if Hamlin drops dead that would damage their brand a lot(and that is what matters to these guys)

Also I'm supporting the Jaguars now, or as Austin Powers might call them..
The SHAGUARS BABY....groovy?

did these guys you mention have any family history of health issues or prior health conditions? i think titofan mentioned one of them did. has any information been released about damar's family health history or prior conditions? the guys you mention are soccer players right? i have seen some big hits in soccer but in my opinion the nfl is a much more physical contact sport. do we have any comparisons with heart issues for players from a bump in a tackle in the nfl, rugby, league, afl?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

[TIC]

the hit he took was nothing, would the league allow him on the field again? do nfl players get insured? would an insurance company touch him, if they do? off topic, do you think this incident has increased interest & eyes on this part of the season?

Good questions all.

Would the NFL allow Damar back on the field again? I venture to say yes, as long as he passed a rigorous battery of physical tests. Could be wrong, though... and that bridge has yet to be crossed. First though... Hamlin would have to want to get back on the field. That... IMO... is not a given.

Are NFL players insured? Yes. It's similar in form to the insurance plans offered by other employers. I'm pretty sure the NFLPA (NFL Players Association) has a huge hand in what goes into that insurance plan. I'm not sure how Damar's insurance would be affected going forward if he were to resume his playing career. We all know insurance companies' #1 priority is always their bottom line.

Your last question is very interesting. Yes... I'm of the opinion that interest in the playoffs has probably been magnified, stemming from the Damar incident. Hard to imagine... 'cause interest in the NFL playoffs are usually HUGE to begin with. So this added wrinkle (and the fact that the Bills are firmly still in the playoffs) is sure to have attracted the attention from people who wouldn't otherwise follow football.

I'm sure a lot of neutral football fans (no team preference) are now rooting for the Bills to win the Super Bowl this year. As I said before... it's not at all far-fetched, as they have one of the more complete teams in the NFL.

i also think the nfl would let him play again if it brings in money. i remember hearing terry norris say that he had been cleared to fight even though he had brain issues. the blow back if anything went wrong with him though could be a risk they may not want to take. i'm sure damar must have made a enough to live on? & maybe his insurance pays him out something as well. i'm sure they could keep him in the sport somehow without playing, commentating or something. i take myself for example, someone who has never paid much attention to the nfl apart from madden games & highlights, i'm interested to see if my prediction on the bills winning the super bowl comes to fruition. i'm sure there are many others. thanks for the information