RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler

[Primo Carnera]

There is no harm in Tic having the discussion. It looks like Spinks moved up to heavyweight after he cleaned out his division.

Every fighter chases the money including the old time greats like Grebb. Legacy is not the decisive factor no matter what the boxers may say.

Absolutely fair. But would you start a thread about a Boxer who has just passed away and simply put “Legend”.
Then a few years later, question his legacy by asking if he gets a pass for fighting smaller guys? Even though these “smaller guys” are all time greats?
Yep, “Legend”.

why wouldn't i start a thread about a boxer who has just passed away & simply put "legend" when i think he's a legend?

"Then a few years later"
i've already said that i searched & the only other thread on the front page was called marvin haggler, the site has been having issues for weeks, sorry that i'm not prepared to wait for minutes on end to search through each page to try & find another marvin hagler thread to post in

"question his legacy by asking if he gets a pass for fighting smaller guys"
once again as i've mentioned several times already in this thread, so i'm not sure if you are now ignoring that intentionally, i am not questioning marvin's legacy. i've already stated that in my opinion he was already a legend before the roberto duran fight. i'm asking if marvin gets a pass for fighting smaller guys, for bigger money over the last five to six years of his career, instead of looking for bigger challenges

"Even though these “smaller guys” are all time greats?"
yes these smaller guys are all time greats but as i've asked previously & no one has answered, where do you rate these smaller guys all time at middleweight?

yep, marvin is a legend

If asking “if he gets a pass for fighting smaller guys” isn’t questioning Marvin’s legacy, then I don’t know what is!

you conveniently left of the most relevant part of my question "for bigger money over the last five to six years of his career, instead of looking for bigger challenges"

you also completely ignored where i said "in my opinion he was already a legend before the roberto duran fight"

if you think marvin fought the biggest challenges over the last five to six years of his career, that's fine we can agree to disagree

if you think marvin was too small to move up, that is also fine we can agree to disagree

but your misrepresentations show you hold a bias & are not interested in an honest discussion

No misrepresentation Mate, just pointing out the main part of what you said. I can’t see how that’s not honest.
If you think starting a tribute thread with “legend” then critiquing why he fought smaller guys isn’t at best hypocritical, at worst having a hidden agenda, then we’ll have to agree to disagree.