*I'm finally ready to do it... ::deep breath::*

[ICB]

Ok, so I think I'm finally ready to admit a few things that need to be said.

1)I have been an avid PBF basher for since his move from 130. I have said how I think his lack of engaging makes for boring although technically fantastic fights. That doesn't make um easier on the eyes, though.

Feeewww... OK, here we go.

After the Hatton fight I thing we have all seen a Floyd we have not seen in a long time and we were treated to as exciting a fight as it was technically sound. Thank you Ricky for bringing out the best in Floyd.
Can't wait to see what the future holds for Ricky either. He is a great champion.

So I'm finally ready to give Floys his due.

2)We all know that I'm a huge Manfredo fan (ok... stop laughing)

I'm finally ready to admitt that he is a C level fighter who just doesn't have the mental chops to fight on a world level. Do I think he has the ability? Yes. But until he breaks through that wall C level is going to be as far as he is gonna get. Do I think he can hold a major strap? Yes but not at 168. He looks tired and lathargic after 3 or 4 rounds. His body looks soft. Not at 160. He fought best at 154. I don't care what he says. 154 is where he belongs.

3)Calzaghe is going to own Hopkins. I'm saying it now. Yes I'm from the US and love Bernard but Joe will be to much for him. End of story.

4)Kelly Pavlik will end the rematch sooner this time. KO5

5)Klitscho will destroy Ibragimov with his jab. You need to get through that to get to Wladimir. He won't.



Just some things I wanted to get off my chest

Sorry but im massive Mayweather fan but i didn't think Hatton vs Mayweather was exciting at all, it was mostly a clinchfest Mayweather vs Chavez was about 10x better than Hatton vs Mayweather, plus Mayweather has had much better offensive fights than that Hatton one.

See people are underestimating Hopkins, One thing you must realize is that Calzaghe isn't just going to go in there and out work him, Hopkins is a great technical fighter and one of the smartest fighters in boxing, he can offset Calzaghe's rhythm with clinches etc, and he can also slow him down. Calzaghe has struggled in rough tough fights with Bika, Salem, Reid, now people might say he fights to the level of his opposition, which some of that is true, but its also to do with Calzaghe losing concentration easily, overall i see Calzaghe winning a close decision but it won't be easy by any means.

I think Taylor will be much more cautious in the rematch, but Kelly Pavlik's longer jab will force Taylor to fight, i don't think it will be as good as there 1st fight but i see Pavlik winning between 8 or 9 rounds.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Sorry but im massive Mayweather fan but i didn't think Hatton vs Mayweather was exciting at all, it was mostly a clinchfest Mayweather vs Chavez was about 10x better than Hatton vs Mayweather, plus Mayweather has had much better offensive fights than that Hatton one






See people are underestimating Hopkins, One thing you must realize is that Calzaghe isn't just going to go in there and out work him, Hopkins is a great technical fighter and one of the smartest fighters in boxing, he can offset Calzaghe's rhythm with clinches etc, and he can also slow him down. Calzaghe has struggled in rough tough fights with Bika, Salem, Reid, now people might say he fights to the level of his opposition, which some of that is true, its also to do with Calzaghe losing concentration, overall i see Calzaghe winning a close decision but it won't be easy by any means.

I think Taylor will be much more cautious in the rematch, but Kelly Pavlik's longer jab will force Taylor to fight, i don't think it will be as good as there 1st fight but i see Pavlik winning between 8 or 9 rounds.

On Floyd

I think you are absolutly right. I stated that this was the most exciting fight since he vacated 130. Not of his carreer. You have to agree with that.

On Calzaghe Hopkins

I don't think it will be easy but I do think it will not be as close. I think that Bhop will slow him down signifigantly and drop the tempo of the fight but I do think that Calzaghe's workrate will win the day.

On Pavlik Taylor

KO5

[ICB]

On Floyd

I think you are absolutly right. I stated that this was the most exciting fight since he vacated 130. Not of his carreer. You have to agree with that.

On Calzaghe Hopkins

I don't think it will be easy but I do think it will not be as close. I think that Bhop will slow him down signifigantly and drop the tempo of the fight but I do think that Calzaghe's workrate will win the day.

On Pavlik Taylor

KO5

Sorry but i disagree i think Mayweather's had many exciting fights since leaving 130, that are better than the Hatton fight.

Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Jesus Chavez
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Phillip Ndou
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Jose Luis Castillo 1
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Emanuel Burton
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs DeMarcus Corley

Just to name a few.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Sorry but i disagree i think Mayweather's had many exciting fights since leaving 130, that are better than the Hatton fight.

Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Jesus Chavez
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Phillip Ndou
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Jose Luis Castillo 1
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Emanuel Burton
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs DeMarcus Corley

Just to name a few.

I really have to say that these 3 were very exciting but we haven't seen him in an exiting fight in a while prior to hatton.

[leftylee]

Until Mayweather faces somebody who is a threat than I'll become a PBF fan. I admire his skills but for the past number of years he has handpicked opponents that are not high caliber besides being world champions, bring on Cotto or Williams but no he's too scared .

[ICB]

Until Mayweather faces somebody who is a threat than I'll become a PBF fan. I admire his skills but for the past number of years he has handpicked opponents that are not high caliber besides being world champions, bring on Cotto or Williams but no he's too scared .

So he handpicked your boy Hatton as well Lee ??

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

So he handpicked your boy Hatton as well Lee ??

lol

[leftylee]

So he handpicked your boy Hatton as well Lee ??

Lets face it Hatton is a natural 140 pounder and struggled against Collazo previousley at Welterweight so did Hatton have a chance ??.

[CFH]

Sorry but i disagree i think Mayweather's had many exciting fights since leaving 130, that are better than the Hatton fight.

Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Jesus Chavez
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Phillip Ndou
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Jose Luis Castillo 1
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Emanuel Burton
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs DeMarcus Corley

Just to name a few.

Hey Ice, you'd probably know the answer to this, was Chavez actually 1-12-1 going into that fight or was his record closer to the record his people gave of 22-16?

[Violent Demise]

Hey Ice, you'd probably know the answer to this, was Chavez actually 1-12-1 going into that fight or was his record closer to the record his people gave of 22-16?

Wrong Jesus Chavez. He's talking about the one he defended his WBC Junior Lightweight title against. Not the one he fought in his 9th fight

[CFH]

Wrong Jesus Chavez. He's talking about the one he defended his WBC Junior Lightweight title against. Not the one he fought in his 9th fight

Thanks VD, I didn't realize there were two of them.

[RozzySean]

I jumped off the Manfredo bandwagon after the Lacy fight. I've decided that he's too lazy to make weight and condition properly, and that he'd rather lose on his feet than try to win and get KO'd. The Lacy fight was there for the taking, but he quit as soon as he got his bell rung. He had a real chance against Lacy if he would have stayed outsided, used movement and jabbed, like he did for the first few rounds, but instead, he did that lazy-ass in fighting, smothered himself, and got outworked. That crap cost him the 1st fight with Mora, and it it shows that he's not interested in being great. He'd rather skimp on roadwork and eat veal pizzaoli and be a journeyman SMW than do the work it takes to be a champ or real contender at 154.

It's real waste of a good set of boxing skills.

[ICB]

Thanks VD, I didn't realize there were two of them.

Yea VD is correct there are two of them, the Chavez that Mayweather fought early in his career, Mayweather actually suffered a cut by a headbutt, thats the only time i can remember Mayweather actually being cut in a fight. And as for the other Jesus Chavez the much better one, he gave Mayweather all he could handle he was throwing about 100+ punches a round, i used the Jesus Chavez argument to support why i thought Mayweather would beat Hatton, Chavez was landing at a very low percentage though and Mayweather was wearing him down the longer the fight went on, Chavez took a hammering in the 9th round his head was constantly snapping up from Mayweather's brutal uppercuts it was quite brutal to watch. Chavez's corner stopped the fight because he was taking too much punishment, but what a fight it was one of Mayweather's best.