*I'm finally ready to do it... ::deep breath::*

[leftylee]

So he handpicked your boy Hatton as well Lee ??

Lets face it Hatton is a natural 140 pounder and struggled against Collazo previousley at Welterweight so did Hatton have a chance ??.

[ICB]

Lets face it Hatton is a natural 140 pounder and struggled against Collazo previousley at Welterweight so did Hatton have a chance ??.

But wasn't you the one that said that it was just an *off night* against Collazo. And wasn't you the one picking Hatton to win

[leftylee]

But wasn't you the one that said that it was just an *off night* against Collazo. And wasn't you the one picking Hatton to win

No mate you will never find me saying Hatton has an off night against Collazo, I give it to him by 2 points but I admit he looked hopeless at welter.

I was picking Hatton to win as I'm sure you would pick PBF over Cotto or Williams as he's my favourite fighter but looking back in hindsight Hatton had virtually no chance with his style against PBF's and PBF IS ducking the other welters FACT, at least Hatton's not scared to lose his "0".

[Big_Deuce]

i think the hype of the fight is what made it exciting.
All the crap from PBF and hatton during the fight made me Yawn (damnit wheres my smileys)

[ICB]

No mate you will never find me saying Hatton has an off night against Collazo, I give it to him by 2 points but I admit he looked hopeless at welter.

I was picking Hatton to win as I'm sure you would pick PBF over Cotto or Williams as he's my favourite fighter but looking back in hindsight Hatton had virtually no chance with his style against PBF's and PBF IS ducking the other welters FACT, at least Hatton's not scared to lose his "0".

When i mentioned Collazo fight im pretty sure your the one who said Hatton had an off night vs Collazo with making weight etc, i would pick Mayweather over Cotto and Williams because he is the better fighter. Not just because Mayweather is one of my favorite fighters, see now Hatton has lost you say he had no chance but thats not what you was saying before the fight, and if Hatton would of won you wouldn't be saying that either, and its opinion that Mayweather is ducking Williams, Cotto, not a fact, just like Hatton is ducking Witter is an opinion not a fact

[leftylee]

When i mentioned Collazo fight im pretty sure your the one who said Hatton had an off night vs Collazo with making weight etc, i would pick Mayweather over Cotto and Williams because he is the better fighter. Not just because Mayweather is one of my favorite fighters, see now Hatton has lost you say he had no chance but thats not what you was saying before the fight, and if Hatton would of won you wouldn't be saying that either, and its opinion that Mayweather is ducking Williams, Cotto, not a fact, just like Hatton is ducking Witter is an opinion not a fact

Is not a fact Hatton is ducking Witter because Hatton has said one day he could fight Witter he does not rule it out.

I said Hatton had 5 weeks or something to prepare for the Collazo fight and for him to do that on his first trip to welter and beat Collazo and knock him down is damm good considering Floyd needed a trial at the weight which included a shot Sharmba Mitchell, pointless fight that was

And I always thought Hatton could beat PBF but ask Ono, I sent him a PM saying I feel PBF could win or something along the lines of that so I was not 100% adamant Hatton would win as that would be stupid considering he is fighting Floyd Mayweather, going to HIS preffered weight and HIS backyard.


BTW Floyd in many people's eyes is ducking Cotto and Williams and for some reason everyone is round Hatton like flies on shite talking about him ducking Witter and Floyd goes for the money route in a part time fighter in De La Hoya next and nobody mentions nothing about fighting somebody who would give him problems and don't say ODLH will give him problems in the second fight as even you said he won the first by 3 rounds so why is Floyd taking a rematch. Looking for the easy option if you ask me to avoid Cotto and Williams who he's scared of

If you were Hatton after a crushing KO loss would you take on Witter ATM who is full of confidence and has an awkward style ?? I doubt it.

Hatton needs a couple of fights to build his confidence up before he owns Witter's ass like he has done to everybody else at 140!!!

[LEGION]

Golly gee, when I read the title of this thread I was expecting Pride to announce his "coming out of the closet" celebration. Guess it's a little premature yet.

Anyhoo; I couldn't see how anyone wouldn't see the greatness in Floyd in the 1st place. Guys beat everyone put in front of him, and most with an ease that is almost absurd in its effortlessness. My only complaint is this b.s. rematch with Oscar; as he should be fighting Cotto if he wants to claim best 147 around; or even PW, as he is a major threat.

As far as Hopkins/Calzaghe goes, I would be shocked to see Joe run circles around Hop. Hopkins has been there done that and Hop will be up for this fight like no other; especially since there is that "clash of countries" thing and he won't want to be beat much less embarassed by a "foreigner"{a white one at that}lol. Expect a war inside to say the least.

Manfredo is still a joke

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Golly gee, when I read the title of this thread I was expecting Pride to announce his "coming out of the closet" celebration. Guess it's a little premature yet.

Anyhoo; I couldn't see how anyone wouldn't see the greatness in Floyd in the 1st place. Guys beat everyone put in front of him, and most with an ease that is almost absurd in its effortlessness. My only complaint is this b.s. rematch with Oscar; as he should be fighting Cotto if he wants to claim best 147 around; or even PW, as he is a major threat.

As far as Hopkins/Calzaghe goes, I would be shocked to see Joe run circles around Hop. Hopkins has been there done that and Hop will be up for this fight like no other; especially since there is that "clash of countries" thing and he won't want to be beat much less embarassed by a "foreigner"{a white one at that}lol. Expect a war inside to say the least.

Manfredo is still a joke

LOL thanks for the insight, LEGION!

No, I'm not quite ready to come out of Narnia... I need to feel mor comfortable...

I never said I disagreed with him being a great boxer... I just haven't been a fan of his adopted style of late.

Joe will not run circles arounf Bhop but he will win the fight

Peter Manfredo-No comment

[Spicoli]

Takes a big man to admit when he's wrong Pride,So I'll be looking for another similar thread after hopkins gets done with calzaghe .It may not be pretty but It'll fall into that backslide,hardright & maul ,Body shot,spin hook etc. type affair.Im a convert on Joe,I like him but the key for him is workrate with volume punching and momentum.I think that if/when Hopkins offsets Calzaghes forward tempo and gets him stationary,even for a short bit....Its deepwater for Joe.Ive been waiting for Hopkins to get old overnight for a looong time?? One things for sure,Hopkins better not f!!! around and try to put on a masterpiece.....IF he clips Calzaghe bad,Go for the finish & Vice versa for Joe.
Agree with ya on Mayweather.I think his mouth can outshine his talent to some but the man has superb skills and talent.Deserves mass respect. IMO,He must face Cotto,Cintron,Margarito,Williams etc at least one of them, rather than a retread payday with DeLaHoya.Another win over Oscar proves natta's.
Little green box filling to ya (what do we call that) Rep points? weak.

[Mar]

I agree with most of what was said except i'm not ready to commit to joe beating hopkins. I've doubted the old man too many times. At face value joe looks to be an easy favorite but hopkins always finds a way.

[ICB]

Is not a fact Hatton is ducking Witter because Hatton has said one day he could fight Witter he does not rule it out.

Thats exactly what i just said it isn't a fact just like your comment about Mayweather ducking Cotto, Williams, isn't a fact either.

I said Hatton had 5 weeks or something to prepare for the Collazo fight and for him to do that on his first trip to welter and beat Collazo and knock him down is damm good considering Floyd needed a trial at the weight which included a shot Sharmba Mitchell, pointless fight that was

Collazo was virtually unknown by most boxing fans at the time, he was considered to be an easy victory for Hatton at Hatton's new weight, most people were predicting a KO early for Hatton, just like Mitchell was supposed to be an easy victory for Mayweather at Mayweather's new weight, the only difference is at least Mitchell had a name and at least Mayweather beat him in impressive fashion, where as Hatton didn't.

And I always thought Hatton could beat PBF but ask Ono, I sent him a PM saying I feel PBF could win or something along the lines of that so I was not 100% adamant Hatton would win as that would be stupid considering he is fighting Floyd Mayweather, going to HIS preffered weight and HIS backyard.

Im not saying you did for 100 percent thought Hatton would win, but you along with the Hatton fans were still predicting a win for Hatton, you all said he would be one of Mayweather's toughest fight, and now Mayweather KO's Hatton in impressive fashion you Hatton fans say Mayweather *picked* his fight with Hatton, and i think that is very unfair.

BTW Floyd in many people's eyes is ducking Cotto and Williams and for some reason everyone is round Hatton like flies on shite talking about him ducking Witter and Floyd goes for the money route in a part time fighter in De La Hoya next and nobody mentions nothing about fighting somebody who would give him problems and don't say ODLH will give him problems in the second fight as even you said he won the first by 3 rounds so why is Floyd taking a rematch. Looking for the easy option if you ask me to avoid Cotto and Williams who he's scared of

These *people* who are saying Mayweather is ducking Cotto, have no evidence to back there claims up, its there opinion and until they can back it up with solid evidence which i haven't seen yet its only an opinion who no substance behind it. The reason Mayweather is taking the ODLH fight is because he is getting a ton of money much more money than he will get for a Cotto fight, plus it will be much bigger PPV. Just look at the PPV ratings Cotto got for his last few fights, then look at what Mayweather vs ODLH got on the PPV ratings it was one of the biggest ever, theres a big difference. Now i may not agree with it but it is good business sense, and if i was in Mayweather's shoes i would probably do the same.

If you were Hatton after a crushing KO loss would you take on Witter ATM who is full of confidence and has an awkward style ?? I doubt it.

I have already said Hatton deserves a confidence booster first, but if Witter beats Hopkins and Hatton has his confidence booster fight. If he then doesn't fight Witter that is going to raise a lot of question's and ditto with Mayweather as well.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I have already said Hatton deserves a confidence booster first, but if Witter beats Hopkins and Hatton has his confidence booster fight. If he then doesn't fight Witter that is going to raise a lot of question's and ditto with Mayweather as well.

I agree. People can say what they want... They had a falling out and this and that... At the end of the day, this fight needs to happen. Hatton knows this. Witter knows this.

Mark my words. It'll happen

[Kev]

I admire your enthusiam regarding Peter Manfredo Pride. I agree he's not cut out for 168 lbs where he's lost to the likes of Joe Calzaghe and Jeff Lacy.

He should go back to 154 lbs where he lost to the likes of Alfonso Gomez and Sergio Mora

[leftylee]

Thats exactly what i just said it isn't a fact just like your comment about Mayweather ducking Cotto, Williams, isn't a fact either.

Okay then that's my opinion.


Collazo was virtually unknown by most boxing fans at the time, he was considered to be an easy victory for Hatton at Hatton's new weight, most people were predicting a KO early for Hatton, just like Mitchell was supposed to be an easy victory for Mayweather at Mayweather's new weight, the only difference is at least Mitchell had a name and at least Mayweather beat him in impressive fashion, where as Hatton didn't.

Collazo was a world champion which is a big difference in this matter. Also Collazo had beat Rivera was his name ?? who went on to become the light-middle champ so he was no joke if you look at his record and those "most people" must have undersetimated Collazo to come to that conclusion Hatton was in for an easy night as thats bullshit IMO as they never took into account it was his first time in America, new weight, expectation on his soldiers, world champ on his hands, southpaw in which he's always had problems with etc etc whereas Floyd was fighting somebody totally SHOT .


Im not saying you did for 100 percent thought Hatton would win, but you along with the Hatton fans were still predicting a win for Hatton, you all said he would be one of Mayweather's toughest fight, and now Mayweather KO's Hatton in impressive fashion you Hatton fans say Mayweather *picked* his fight with Hatton, and i think that is very unfair.

After looking back at the fight I don't think it was unfair as Hatton's style played into Floyd's hands perfectly so Floyd knew what he had to do to win easy and thats exactly what he did and let's remember he was fighting against a natural 140 pounder who struggled at Welterwight previousley.


These *people* who are saying Mayweather is ducking Cotto, have no evidence to back there claims up, its there opinion and until they can back it up with solid evidence which i haven't seen yet its only an opinion who no substance behind it. The reason Mayweather is taking the ODLH fight is because he is getting a ton of money much more money than he will get for a Cotto fight, plus it will be much bigger PPV. Just look at the PPV ratings Cotto got for his last few fights, then look at what Mayweather vs ODLH got on the PPV ratings it was one of the biggest ever, theres a big difference. Now i may not agree with it but it is good business sense, and if i was in Mayweather's shoes i would probably do the same.

Cotto, Williams and Cintron have all called Mayweather out and PBF has not replied to any of them and IMO he is ducking Cotto and Williams as he wants to protect his unblemished record as he knows he will get beat and the funny thing is, he calls himself "Pretty"

On the ODLH subject that shows what Floyd is, going for money instead of securing a legacy, he should take a leaf out of Hatton's book and Floyd lost ALL of my respect for that, what a discrage not going for the tougher fights that when people look back at his record and will look not in admiration but saying oh there he is making money fights which the ODLH fight is. Has'nt he got enough cash already ?? greedy twat


I have already said Hatton deserves a confidence booster first, but if Witter beats Hopkins and Hatton has his confidence booster fight. If he then doesn't fight Witter that is going to raise a lot of question's and ditto with Mayweather as well.

A totally agree but we cannot dispute this matter as it has not happened yet.

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