Im possibly being ironic.
Im possibly being ironic.
I wish people would shut up saying Floyd doesn't fight any real welterweights.
Baldomir was the UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNISED welterweight world champ
Zab Judah was the former UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNISED welterweight world champ.
De La Hoya was the former WBC WELTERWEIGHT world champ
Hatton was the former WBA WELTERWEIGHT world champ
Floyd has fought 4 times at welterweight, 3 of those fights were against former welterweight world champs, one was still the reigning champ.
What people mean when they say he hasn't faced a real welterweight is that he hasn't faced Cotto or another fighter that they want him to face yet.
His career isn't over, he WILL fight all those fights just give him time.
No really you ain't. Sharmba Mitchell was shot to fuck, Zab Judah was coming off a loss and he chooses the most predictable fighter Baldomir who just ploughs forward which you can then pick him off and run. Baldomir had like 9 losses also when he fought Floyd![]()
There's guys like Margarito, Cotto, Cintron and Williams he could have and can fight but he won't![]()
How could he have played it any different at WW? He made the fight with Zab before the Baldomir loss, when Zab was the undisputed lineal champ. How is that not trying to fight the real WW champ. Then Zab loses. He fights him anyway, but that pretty much forced him to fight Baldy if he wanted the lineal title. He could have not fought Baldomir, but then he would be ignoring the real lineal champ. I guess he could have fought Cotto instead of Oscar, but that would would have made about ZERO business sense.
Hatton was the universally recognized 140lb champ and former beltholder at 147. Are would you give Kessler or Calzaghe crap for defending against and beating Kelly Pavlik? The univeral champ one weight class below is almost always a legit defense.
He'll fight Cotto eventually. If he doesn't fight Cotto with the next two years, we can bitch, because Cotto is the ONLY fighter who has really earned a shot at Floyd at 147. Tony screwed himself when he lost to Williams. Cintron? Please! Williams? Can we stop with that now. If Tony beats Cintron, then beats Cotto, or if Cintron beats Tony then Cotto (yeah, right) those guys will have claim.
And a part time ODLH deserves a shot why ?? He beat him rather simple the first time and with DLH a year older how will that improve his chance of beating Floyd "Fights no welter" Mayweather ??.
BTW Your wrong mate on the first statement, PBF fought Zab after the Baldomir loss
Zab Judah
I'm sure the WBC wants to have their name attached to the guy who is the unquestioned #1 PFP fighter in the world.
They might grant him an exemption for this fight, as long as he fights a welter in his next fight.
Mayweather-cotto needs to happen
mayweather won't get stripped
Floyd is a FRAUD.
He almost had me fooled.
Money Mayweather is counterfeit.
I like that saying.
Counterfeit Mayweather Jr.
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WOW, this thread is really going the wrong way...
Guys I'm simply stating that he is holding a title which he has not defended against a mandatory in almost 2 years. Granted, I did not know Hatton was named the #1 contender at the time so that pretty much blows my argument right there.
It has nothing to do with who he has fought before. I give him all the respect for fighting DLH the first time to win another title and for defending his title against the best 140lber. This is all great stuff. I'm just wondering why I've heard nothing about the WBC demanding a mandatory or claiming to stripp Mayweather after PBF decided to take a break and then fight DLH again.
Andre Berto is the #1 WBC contender and I expect their people to demand a shot at the title some time this year. I don't want to see him fight PBF any time soon but it might be interesting to see what happends at the end of the year. Whether Floyd fights Berto or whether Floyd is stripped and Berto fights some other contender for a vacant title will add another name into the top of the Welterweight melting pot.
Well, lets hope Berto doesn't fight Floyd any time soon. He's a good prospect but he has no where near the experience to fight the likes of Mayweather... Estrada gave him trouble... Trabant was slow and tentative... He was a sitting duck for berto.
Floyd will not be stripped anytime soon. The WBC will ride the "Money Mayweather" train as long as they can.![]()
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I don't think this is accurate. Berto's handlers think he can be a future star, and as a result they are going to be very cautious not to rush him. He's still facing the Cosme Riveras and Michel Trebants of the world, he still has several stepping stones to go before he even thinks about facing someone who is a top-caliber opponent.
S'ok man I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking while I was away that when I get back on that somebody could answer this for me. I can't believe Hatton was made #1 contender. I'm a massive Hatton fan but that is a fucking joke. This thread should not be taken as a dig at Floyd, but more a dig at the WBC who I'm afraid stack up with all the other sanctioning bodies as a fucking joke. I don't care if Floyd is #1 P4P, there shouldn't be a rule for one guy that is different from the next.
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