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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Here's something I read about Canadian healthcare recently. My favourite is point number two, in which the author notes that although Canadian doctors are paid less than their U.S. counterparts, there are also upsides to practicing in Canada:
    First, as noted, they don't have to charge higher fees to cover the salary of a full-time staffer to deal with over a hundred different insurers, all of whom are bent on denying care whenever possible. In fact, most Canadian doctors get by quite nicely with just one assistant, who cheerfully handles the phones, mail, scheduling, patient reception, stocking, filing, and billing all by herself in the course of a standard workday.

    Second, they don't have to spend several hours every day on the phone cajoling insurance company bean counters into doing the right thing by their patients. My doctor in California worked a 70-hour week: 35 hours seeing patients, and another 35 hours on the phone arguing with insurance companies. My Canadian doctor, on the other hand, works a 35-hour week, period. She files her invoices online, and the vast majority are simply paid — quietly, quickly, and without hassle. There is no runaround. There are no fights. Appointments aren't interrupted by vexing phone calls. Care is seldom denied (because everybody knows the rules). She gets her checks on time, sees her patients on schedule, takes Thursdays off, and gets home in time for dinner.




    Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org
    That's very interesting article, I would not have considered the overhead that U.S. doctors have to deal with nor would I have considered the man hours it would take to deal with all the different health-care providers. I know in my doctors office, its just him and a secretary, but it often feels quite frantic in there, its not uncommon for me to have a 2:00 appointment and not see the doctor until after 3. Also, a lot of doctors here have taken to only dealing with one problem per visit, so if your leg and your head are both fucked up, he's only going to deal with one of them, so you better figure out which needs more immediate attention.
    One thing that they kind of gloss over is point #3, wait times here are fucking horrendous, and like I said, just wait until the baby boomers hit 65, they won't be contributing much in the way of taxes and will need a ton of medical care, especially as, just like in the States, we're all a bunch of fat, under-exercising pigs up here.
    Also they talk about how taxes here are only about 10% more than in the U.S., but when you consider how much $$ the U.S. spends on other things, IE a functioning military, which Canada basically ignores, you've got to imagine taxes would skyrocket if the U.S. implimented national health care.

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    That's very interesting article, I would not have considered the overhead that U.S. doctors have to deal with nor would I have considered the man hours it would take to deal with all the different health-care providers. I know in my doctors office, its just him and a secretary, but it often feels quite frantic in there, its not uncommon for me to have a 2:00 appointment and not see the doctor until after 3. Also, a lot of doctors here have taken to only dealing with one problem per visit, so if your leg and your head are both fucked up, he's only going to deal with one of them, so you better figure out which needs more immediate attention.
    One thing that they kind of gloss over is point #3, wait times here are fucking horrendous, and like I said, just wait until the baby boomers hit 65, they won't be contributing much in the way of taxes and will need a ton of medical care, especially as, just like in the States, we're all a bunch of fat, under-exercising pigs up here.
    Also they talk about how taxes here are only about 10% more than in the U.S., but when you consider how much $$ the U.S. spends on other things, IE a functioning military, which Canada basically ignores, you've got to imagine taxes would skyrocket if the U.S. implimented national health care.
    The US spends a lot more on healthcare than most developed nations do and with a far worse overall result. The only parts of the US system that function competitively and efficiently are the parts that are socialised. When the baby boomers retire the inefficient and expensive US corporate socialist healthcare system will collapse and be replaced by one like Canada's, unless pressure from US corporations who face global uncompetitiveness from soaring healthcare costs compared to their socialised healthcare country competitors doesn't bring about change first.

    Canada doesn't need a military as it faces no serious threat and doesn't have a empire to run. If it did run a empire the economic growth from the empire would have meant low taxes in Canada too.



    According to the OECD rankings of healthcare systems the US comes in just behind Costa Rica.

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    EDIT : This is cost per person per year for healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    The US spends a lot more on healthcare than most developed nations do and with a far worse overall result. The only parts of the US system that function competitively and efficiently are the parts that are socialised. When the baby boomers retire the inefficient and expensive US corporate socialist healthcare system will collapse and be replaced by one like Canada's, unless pressure from US corporations who face global uncompetitiveness from soaring healthcare costs compared to their socialised healthcare country competitors doesn't bring about change first.

    Canada doesn't need a military as it faces no serious threat and doesn't have a empire to run. If it did run a empire the economic growth from the empire would have meant low taxes in Canada too.



    According to the OECD rankings of healthcare systems the US comes in just behind Costa Rica.
    Canada doesn't need a military because we have a badass friend to the south who looks out for us. If it wasn't for the U.S., I think the resources alone in Canada would attract some trouble. Not that I'm sure anyone could actually reasonable conquer and pacify country this size

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    Canada doesn't need a military because we have a badass friend to the south who looks out for us. If it wasn't for the U.S., I think the resources alone in Canada would attract some trouble. Not that I'm sure anyone could actually reasonable conquer and pacify country this size
    Who "looks out for you"? Calm down, for god's sake, Canada faces no threat whatsoever. The only country on earth whose economy could concievably afford an occupation of Canada is the US but it would still be impossible for them.

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    Who "looks out for you"? Calm down, for god's sake, Canada faces no threat whatsoever. The only country on earth whose economy could concievably afford an occupation of Canada is the US but it would still be impossible for them.
    Lol, I'm not upset about anything, but the US is a big reason that Canada doesn't face many threats. We do face some threats, Al Queda has threatened Canada before.

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    Lol, I'm not upset about anything, but the US is a big reason that Canada doesn't face many threats. We do face some threats, Al Queda has threatened Canada before.
    So you're facing a non-military threat from terrorists. Still no reason to have a military. Nobody could afford to invade you apart from the States. The only reason to have a military is if you think they're going to invade. They don't even need to invade because the American-arse-licking brigade in the Canadian parliament already signed Canada up to allowing them first dibs at your own oil resources before you get a chance to buy it. So you don't even face a military threat from the States now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So you're facing a non-military threat from terrorists. Still no reason to have a military. Nobody could afford to invade you apart from the States. The only reason to have a military is if you think they're going to invade. They don't even need to invade because the American-arse-licking brigade in the Canadian parliament already signed Canada up to allowing them first dibs at your own oil resources before you get a chance to buy it. So you don't even face a military threat from the States now.
    Terrorist threats are no reason to have a military Who would attempt to stop them then, our unarmed border guards?
    There are plenty of other reasons to have a military aside from turning back an expected invasion, and just because there are no threats currently facing a country does not mean that there will not be threats in the future.
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