Boxing Sucks.

[Fenster]

good little write, donny

But Saddo basically said what I was gonna say.

Most of the guys that get the flak are millionaires that have made it to the top.

Another question should be - Why do the multi-millionaires continue to fight inferior opposition when far superior fan friendly challenges are on offer?

Surely when you make multi-million purses per fight all that's left is the GLORY? This isn't the case though with many fighters, is it?

[donnydarkoIRL]

good little write, donny

But Saddo basically said what I was gonna say.

Most of the guys that get the flak are millionaires that have made it to the top.

Another question should be - Why do the multi-millionaires continue to fight inferior opposition when far superior fan friendly challenges are on offer?

Surely when you make multi-million purses per fight all that's left is the GLORY? This isn't the case though with many fighters, is it?

Hey man, sorry for the delay gettin back to ya.
I understand your viewpoint and I agree to some extent. In factbI agree with alarge chunk of that, but what I'm addressing is the blatant denigration of some fighters by biased fans.

Fenster I asked you today and many others in recent days had they boxed. I found that most that seem to understand the business had competed or been involved in similar sports did indeed give most boxers their fair go.
But there are many who still think boxing is a ruthless, testosterone fuelled sport which is won by the strongest man. Thats my true issue. These "fans" disrespect fighters who genuinely make the effort and often pay huge prices before being issued any dividends.


As fopr the business side, can that be blamed on the fighters? Only partially in my opinion. Had the sport not been bastardized by various sanctioning bodies and promoters we would be in more of a position where the best fighters are those who perform well against their peers and not the best at selecting their way to ther top.

[Trainer Monkey]

good little write, donny

But Saddo basically said what I was gonna say.

Most of the guys that get the flak are millionaires that have made it to the top.

Another question should be - Why do the multi-millionaires continue to fight inferior opposition when far superior fan friendly challenges are on offer?

Surely when you make multi-million purses per fight all that's left is the GLORY? This isn't the case though with many fighters, is it?

I think the fans overestimate the purses
Yeah you make millions at the high end,but you make crap at the low end.
Well youve got to earn your way to the high end
But at the low end,if you make a grand off the fight,you did real good

[donnydarkoIRL]

TM, what would you say is the average purse for a debut fighter?
An ordinary guy kicking off?

[Trainer Monkey]

TM, what would you say is the average purse for a debut fighter?
An ordinary guy kicking off?

It would really depend on the market I was getting you booked in.It varies wildly.
Not to mention travel costs,which are usually covered
Not to mention lisence costs(it can get very pricey depending on the med work they want done)this is also usually covered by the promoter
But if you had a good amateur card,Id look for somewhere between a grand in Cali,all the way down to 400 in WV
Like I said,its honestly overhyped because the major league tickets,the headliners make a ton of coin.
I mean you get your head handed to you just as much on the low tickets,but then again when your doing amateurs,or semi-pro,your more or less giving it away.Your actually paying for the privledge if you think about it.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Thats what I thought, you're almost paying to box for your first ten fights.

[Trainer Monkey]

Thats what I thought, you're almost paying to box for your first ten fights.

On the plus side,they have you in and out of there so fast,you miss at best 2 days of work.
And your not making $600(Im going for the middle here)for 2 days of work.
And certainly not for 12 total minutes,which is what your actually going to do.
It is a serious ball pain though getting corners booked for these though.
Because you can only pony up so much if your the manager,I mean it almost allways comes out of your purse.
I have to put up my next cornerman up in our guest room in a couple of a weeks,I dont mind doing it mind you.Its just the nature of the animal.
But when the cheers hit you,its worth it.
This game just puts the stink on you,and you cant get it off no matter how hard you try
Feur is allready talking about training people when her days are done

[El Kabong]

Boxing doesn't suck, it's just been forced out of the limelight by other sports and for good reasons too.

Other sports are more consistent in their entertainment value....with boxing you never know what you're going to get, a brawl, a bloodbath, a Svenn Ottke fight, a John Ruiz fight....a boring decision ....a controversial stoppage. Boxing has so many variables.

There is corruption in boxing and it's been there since the start and people don't like it....and there are 100s of titles, there should only be one per division!

Boxing is difficult to do and in this era of entitlement people don't like difficult they want something they can do without propper training or much competition, and so they invent sports.....the X-Games, MMA....it's the pussification of the world, the "We all deserve tropheys" crowd. Boxers EARN their money and respect and you can get one without the other, just ask Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Boxing when done correctly, is the one truth in sport...who is the best? who is the toughest? who is the strongest? who is the smartest? Those questions can only be answered in a 1 on 1 sport like boxing

[Fenster]

I think the fans overestimate the purses
Yeah you make millions at the high end,but you make crap at the low end.
Well youve got to earn your way to the high end
But at the low end,if you make a grand off the fight,you did real good

The famous guys, the guys that get all the attention - Floyd, Hatton, Hopkins, Oscar etc..their purses are normally revealed and all earn more money than they could ever spend

[Fenster]

it just goes to highlight whether you are fighting for $50 or $5m boxing is about the dough.

[Boxerharvey]

Great post Donny, so many people crtisise boxers but half of them dont even know what it feels like to step into the ring and come face to face with someone who wants to KO your arse and to feel what it is like to be caught with a good clean hard punch.

A boxer is risking his life basically evertime he fights.
Ive got so much respect for anyone no matter what there ability if they step into the ring.

[Trainer Monkey]

The famous guys, the guys that get all the attention - Floyd, Hatton, Hopkins, Oscar etc..their purses are normally revealed and all earn more money than they could ever spend

If they made that,youd choke to find out how much the promoter made