I feel bad for the Floyd Mayweather haters

[Bx730NY]

Awesome posting by BX730ony.

Thanx man. Where the hell you been?

[El Gamo]

Thanx man. Where the hell you been?

El Gamo has started working unfortunately! Welcome to a mans world! No more spending days typing about boxing! Although I am still going to be online for sure,certainly not as much as before. Great to see you still making excellent posts though.

I have to disagree Sweetpea,you are part of a handful at best,of Floyd fans that want to see a Cotto fight. Others said he has to fight Williams(Not anymore ), other says Cotto doesn't bring enough to the table. Cotto is good and he dam sure as hell is dangerous but he is also doing something Floyd is not:taking tough fights after tough fights(against legit WW's),followed by a break(Gomez which is still decent) and then more tough fights(Quintana rematch,Winner of Cintron and Margarito). He's fighting the guys Floyd would never fight and could very well lose to anyone of them.

Answer me this:who's resume is better at 140 or 147? I have zero doubt it's Cotto's. So why should Cotto still have to prove anything? Cotto's beaten better fighters in the last couple of years than Zab,Baldomir,Oscar even.

[SweetPea]

I have to disagree Sweetpea,you are part of a handful at best,of Floyd fans that want to see a Cotto fight.

I really don't believe this. Maybe there are a few Floyd fans who don't want to see him fight Cotto, but those people are idiots. The vast majority of Floyd fans want to see him fight Cotto eventually... because it will be a great fight.

other says Cotto doesn't bring enough to the table.

When people say he "doesn't bring enough to the table," they don't mean skills-wise or talent-wise, it's that he doesn't bring enough to the table yet moneywise.

As has been pointed out in a ton of threads, fighters are always going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Cotto is nowhere near as big of a draw as Oscar, it's not even close.

[El Gamo]

I really don't believe this. Maybe there are a few Floyd fans who don't want to see him fight Cotto, but those people are idiots. The vast majority of Floyd fans want to see him fight Cotto eventually... because it will be a great fight.


When people say he "doesn't bring enough to the table," they don't mean skills-wise or talent-wise, it's that he doesn't bring enough to the table yet moneywise.

As has been pointed out in a ton of threads, fighters are always going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Cotto is nowhere near as big of a draw as Oscar, it's not even close.

And he never will be a big a draw as Oscar,not even close,does that mean Floyd is going to keep fighting Oscar? Are we going to have a trilogy? Is Cotto going to have to wait on the sidelines because Floyd is going to rematch Zab because Zab brings more $$$ to the table?

I personally think it's a shambles. Rematching Oscar. The whole WWE thing when he body was supposedly breaking down and he needed a break etc. Fighter can fight the best fighters out there and make $$$. Mayweather is not and should not be an exception to that.

[SweetPea]

And he never will be a big a draw as Oscar,not even close,does that mean Floyd is going to keep fighting Oscar? Are we going to have a trilogy?

Not if Floyd beats him again in the rematch, which I fully expect to happen.

Is Cotto going to have to wait on the sidelines because Floyd is going to rematch Zab because Zab brings more $$$ to the table?

Zab doesn't bring more money to the table than Cotto at this point.

[Deanrw]

I really don't believe this. Maybe there are a few Floyd fans who don't want to see him fight Cotto, but those people are idiots. The vast majority of Floyd fans want to see him fight Cotto eventually... because it will be a great fight.


When people say he "doesn't bring enough to the table," they don't mean skills-wise or talent-wise, it's that he doesn't bring enough to the table yet moneywise.

As has been pointed out in a ton of threads, fighters are always going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Cotto is nowhere near as big of a draw as Oscar, it's not even close.

How in the hell can he get to that point as long as the Mayweather's of the world keep refusing to fight him? How can he become marquee value when the multi million dollar fighters, who earned their distinction by fighting other huge names, turn their backs and stick with their exclusive club? He will always be on the outside looking in because they will not take the chance to fight him. Your argument does not wash at all. He will never be able to bring enough moneywise, when the so called best refuse to walk inside the ropes with him.

Cotto is the goto man in the division like it or not. Floyd has to fight him instead of a BS fight with ODLH. Money is nothing but an excuse and a lame one at that. Mayweather will get a great payday no matter who he fights at this point.

[SweetPea]

How in the hell can he get to that point as long as the Mayweather's of the world keep refusing to fight him? How can he become marquee value when the multi million dollar fighters, who earned their distinction by fighting other huge names, turn their backs and stick with their exclusive club? He will always be on the outside looking in because they will not take the chance to fight him. Your argument does not wash at all. He will never be able to bring enough moneywise, when the so called best refuse to walk inside the ropes with him.

None of this is accurate at all.

As has been stated on this board a million times, fighters are going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Floyd is fighting Oscar again because he is the opponent right now who brings Floyd the most money.

Once Floyd beats Oscar again, Oscar will be out of the equation. Once that happens, Cotto will be the opponent left who can bring Floyd the most money. Which is why Floyd will fight Cotto eventually, because at some point Cotto will be the opponent who can bring Floyd the most money. But he isn't that guy right now, because Oscar is still around.

Why can't people understand this? It's a very basic concept.

[Deanrw]

None of this is accurate at all.

As has been stated on this board a million times, fighters are going to fight the opponent who brings them the most money. Floyd is fighting Oscar again because he is the opponent right now who brings Floyd the most money.

Once Floyd beats Oscar again, Oscar will be out of the equation. Once that happens, Cotto will be the opponent left who can bring Floyd the most money. Which is why Floyd will fight Cotto eventually, because at some point Cotto will be the opponent who can bring Floyd the most money. But he isn't that guy right now, because Oscar is still around.

Why can't people understand this? It's a very basic concept.

See it is not about the money. You are believing everything he says. Floyd could be fighting 3 times a year and making triple the money. Boxing is about being the best, and Mayweather is riding every single one of his fans from the rear and they are taking it. He has no issue fighting the Baldamir's when there was a belt he wanted. So are you going to tell me Cotto is suddenly too low of a paycheck?

He is afraid of getting beat. He is avoiding fighters who have the potential to beat him. If that guy who ODLH is fighting next, somehow performs a miracle and beats Oscar, guess who will be next in line? He is a scavenger feeding on the small and the old.

[SweetPea]

He has no issue fighting the Baldamir's when there was a belt he wanted.

Floyd made the biggest purse of his career at that time when he fought Baldomir. He wasn't just fighting for the belt, he was fighting for more than 8 million dollars. That was the biggest paycheck available to him at that moment. Oscar wasn't ready to give him a shot yet, and Cotto hadn't even fought at 147 yet, and hadn't really made a name for himself yet.

[Deanrw]

On that note, I am all argued out (I'm too old I guess!hehe). Good Game Sweat Pea You outlasted me on this one!hehe

You earned REP for sticking to your guns. I respect that!

[Deanrw]

And on another note, no Floyd fan should care how much money Cotto brings to the table. The "they want to see Floyd fight Cotto eventually, but he does not bring enough money now" makes no sense at all. Why should they care how much Mayweather is getting paid? They should want to see Floyd is good competitive fights and have lots of fights instead of playing around in the WWE.

[SweetPea]

And on another note, no Floyd fan should care how much money Cotto brings to the table. The "they want to see Floyd fight Cotto eventually, but he does not bring enough money now" makes no sense at all. Why should they care how much Mayweather is getting paid?

I don't care how much Floyd is getting paid. But I'm also realistic and I understand how the sport of boxing works. And since I know how the sport works, I know that Floyd (like any fighter) is going to fight the guy who brings the biggest paycheck.

You can sit around and say that it's stupid and that Floyd should just fight the guys who you want him to fight, but you're living in a dream world. That's not how the business of boxing works.

If it was my choice, Floyd would be fighting Cotto in September instead of rematching Oscar. But I'm intelligent enough to realize that money talks.

[frozensolid_702]

It's real simple............


Cotto doesn't bring enough to the table, while Oscar DelaHoya gave Floyd his 2nd toughest fight ever (JLC 1 was the first) AND made Mayweather by far the most money in his career, many people (admittedly those who don't watch much boxing and opted to get caught up in the Cinco De Mayo hype) thought that Oscar won the fight.

Cotto will fight the winner of Margarito VS. Cintron...... PERIOD! (Because Margarito and Cotto are both Top Rank fighters)

If and when Cotto beats the winner of the Margarito/Cintron fight (personally, I think he will) his next fight will be against Mayweather. IF Mayweather opts to fight a lesser opponent for LESS MONEY, only then will the haters have a remotely valid argument.

Until then............................... the haters (the same ones who actually said that Mayweather was scared of Margarito, Williams, etc. etc.) are just blowing their usual hating smoke.

[Beanflicker]

And on another note, no Floyd fan should care how much money Cotto brings to the table. The "they want to see Floyd fight Cotto eventually, but he does not bring enough money now" makes no sense at all. Why should they care how much Mayweather is getting paid? They should want to see Floyd is good competitive fights and have lots of fights instead of playing around in the WWE.

I hate to sound like a dick but this thread REALLY attracted the slow of mind.

Does it matter to me what Mayweather makes? No, it doesn't. But we live in a capitalistic society based on money, and I'm sure we can all understand the longing for money. We can understand that Floyd would, like any of us, perfer a larger sum of money to a smaller sum of money. Yes, I would rather Floyd be fighting Cotto, but I can't fault him for rematching DLH for more money because it is a good business decision.

Yeah I'd love to see Floyd fight Cotto instead, just like I'd love for FutureShop to sell me that nice 46" Sony Bravia HDTV for $500. But I'm not going to fault them for not doing so.

[Deanrw]

I hate to sound like a dick but this thread REALLY attracted the slow of mind.

Does it matter to me what Mayweather makes? No, it doesn't. But we live in a capitalistic society based on money, and I'm sure we can all understand the longing for money. We can understand that Floyd would, like any of us, perfer a larger sum of money to a smaller sum of money. Yes, I would rather Floyd be fighting Cotto, but I can't fault him for rematching DLH for more money because it is a good business decision.

Yeah I'd love to see Floyd fight Cotto instead, just like I'd love for FutureShop to sell me that nice 46" Sony Bravia HDTV for $500. But I'm not going to fault them for not doing so.

Yeah I said that earlier. A good business decision on his part, shitty one for the sport. But he could have made more money if he fought twice this year. Wow that would have been a better business decision.

If you want to continue to believe that Cotto would not generate enough money for him, fine. Don't be surprised when your master keeps dancing around the subject well after the next DLH fight, pondering retirement, then decides to defend against another low risk opponent instead of a current true welterweight champion.