Klitschko v Ibragimov - World Heavyweight Title UNIFICATION DRBR

[Spicoli]

Im sorry but it was not even a technical fight....It was I'll respond when I must (Wlad) and I'll (sultan) look to play pot shot artist

Honestly Sultan can market and push this into another top show....Very deceptive for appearance as a capable boxer and Wlad has to find the bigger picture

[Mr. Cosell]

OK, here's my damn problem with this fight. Over the last year the lower weights have really been pulling their weight around to get people interested in boxing. We had Oscar and Floyd, Floyd and Hatton, Taylor and Pavlik, so on and so forth and I really think there was a huge buzz going about boxing, but this was pretty much the climax to it. Your every day average Joe wants to see the heavyweights and we've been building up to this for over a year. We get our HW unification and it turns into a boring shit fest... now all the work that's been done the past year has taken a serious hit and all the people that were brought in probably just went, "what the fuck is this shit?" and went back to UFC. Vlad is a fucking asshole pussy for that performance. He obviously knew the ramifications of this bout and didn't give a shit. So I say fuck him and pray that someone with some balls can come around that weighs over 200 lbs.

[El Kabong]

OK, here's my damn problem with this fight. Over the last year the lower weights have really been pulling their weight around to get people interested in boxing. We had Oscar and Floyd, Floyd and Hatton, Taylor and Pavlik, so on and so forth and I really think there was a huge buzz going about boxing, but this was pretty much the climax to it. Your every day average Joe wants to see the heavyweights and we've been building up to this for over a year. We get our HW unification and it turns into a boring shit fest... now all the work that's been done the past year has taken a serious hit and all the people that were brought in probably just went, "what the fuck is this shit?" and went back to UFC. Vlad is a fucking asshole pussy for that performance. He obviously knew the ramifications of this bout and didn't give a shit. So I say fuck him and pray that someone with some balls can come around that weighs over 200 lbs.

Wladimir, given his history fought a smart fight and Sultan was crafty and was really trying to land hard punches.

It was a bad match up of styles is all....it's not that either fighter didn't try. Wlad usually doesn't need too many right crosses to KO someone and Sultan couldn't be more active due to that big ass jab.


ODH-PBF and Taylor-Pavlik are all right handed fighters and their styles mesh

[Mr. Cosell]

Wladimir, given his history fought a smart fight and Sultan was crafty and was really trying to land hard punches.

It was a bad match up of styles is all....it's not that either fighter didn't try. Wlad usually doesn't need too many right crosses to KO someone and Sultan couldn't be more active due to that big ass jab.


ODH-PBF and Taylor-Pavlik are all right handed fighters and their styles mesh

I'm aware of that Lyle, but even you have to admit that what we're talking about right now is a man who had at least a 4" height advantage over his opponent take no risk whatsoever in a fight that had gained fairly decent media attention. Vladimir chose an entertainment profession. As hard as it is to deviate the risk from the entertainment it was his choice and he decided not to entertain. There is no excuse you can throw up to excuse him from that. He had the fight well in hand and he decided to not make a statement. He got paid the money to walk out there and entertain and he decided not to, so screw him.

[El Kabong]

Understandable but Wladimir's MAIN goal is not to entertain it's to win....entertainment is icing on the cake.


Height means very little, look at Paul Williams, Nikolay Valuev, Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer and then look at Mike Tyson, Jack Dempsey, Shane Mosley, Marvin Hagler, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier....for every good short fighter there is a shitty tall fighter. Fighting isn't about height, weight, or arm length it's about fighting better than your opponent

[Mr. Cosell]

Understandable but Wladimir's MAIN goal is not to entertain it's to win....entertainment is icing on the cake.


Height means very little, look at Paul Williams, Nikolay Valuev, Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer and then look at Mike Tyson, Jack Dempsey, Shane Mosley, Marvin Hagler, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier....for every good short fighter there is a shitty tall fighter. Fighting isn't about height, weight, or arm length it's about fighting better than your opponent

I grant you that, his main goal is to win, but when you've proven over 7 or 8 rounds that you're killing someone you need to finish the job, Vlad was never in trouble, and he wouldn't have been in trouble if he had followed up some of those jabs with some deliberate and serious right crosses. I don't at all think he should have just waded in there, got in close and fought Sultan's fight, but at the same time, he had the tools and the advantage to end the night early and make a statement. He made the mental decision to just sit back, take the easy way out, and for that he will be remembered.

[El Kabong]

He made the mental decision to just sit back, take the easy way out, and for that he will be remembered.

If you are a new fan to boxing then you're going to be disappointed very often with that attitude.

At a certain point it made no sense to risk a onesided fight like that to make a statement.

He should have taken more action earlier....Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser, he was disappointed he didn't KO Sultan but he won and there is no way he can go back and KO Sultan now....he'll come back and KO the next poor bastard he fights and I feel sorry for them.

[Saddo]

I'm aware of that Lyle, but even you have to admit that what we're talking about right now is a man who had at least a 4" height advantage over his opponent take no risk whatsoever in a fight that had gained fairly decent media attention. Vladimir chose an entertainment profession. As hard as it is to deviate the risk from the entertainment it was his choice and he decided not to entertain. There is no excuse you can throw up to excuse him from that. He had the fight well in hand and he decided to not make a statement. He got paid the money to walk out there and entertain and he decided not to, so screw him.

You know mate i don't totally blame Wlad.... lewis could be a bore safty first fighter on alot of occasions... so for me Many Steward ((spelling as im pissed)) has apart to play... he fucked up Naz's style bigtime turning him into a boxer.... so dont feel the Wlad is totally to blame

[SalTheButcher]

Im sorry but it was not even a technical fight....It was I'll respond when I must and I'll (sultan) look to play pot shot artist

Honestly Sultan can market and push this into another top show....Very deceptive for appearance as a capable boxer and Wlad has to find the bigger picture

it wasnt that klitschko didnt want to thorw, it was that he didnt want to miss a hard right and sultan moved his head after the jabs, so klitschko didnt want to risk it, its not like he had to risk it, i didnt think the fight was brong at all but i love both klitschko and ibragimov

[SalTheButcher]

also, i dont think this fight had much attention from people who didnt already know klitschko

[Spicoli]

it wasnt that klitschko didnt want to thorw, it was that he didnt want to miss a hard right and sultan moved his head after the jabs, so klitschko didnt want to risk it, its not like he had to risk it, i didnt think the fight was brong at all but i love both klitschko and ibragimov

Yeh,Who want's to risk sharp counters