That Bum. I think his name is Duddy

[The Rookie Fan]

The question is WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!?!

We want a fighter who is good enough to beat up his opponents when fighting stupid and smart enough to know when that won't work.

Now that I mention it. Cotto fits this description quite well.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Ok...

I feel that Duddy's struggle on Saturady was largely due to the size of Smichet as a fighter.

Duddy himself is 5'9'' and a half. In modern boxing this uis quite slight for a Middleweight but Duddy compensates with his broad shoulders and wide frame. In last Saturaday's fight Duddy found himself in an unfamiliar position...fighting an even shorter opponent. Duddy has become accustomed to approaching taller fighter and being the man who stays on the inside....With Smichet actually klusting for trading shots on the inside Duddy was thrown a loop. All he needed was to box like the taller fighter and use an uppercut, but being totally new to the "taller fighter" brand he failed miserably to employ this tactic. However, he did show grit in being just too tough for his game and hungry opponent.

Now I'm not Duddy's biggest fan although I am I4r5ish and follow his fights, but I know that there are few fighters worthy of the "Bum" moinqor, let alone a fighter who pours his heart and soul into his fights and has been triumphant thus far (al beeit I feel he's been gifted in the past.)

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Ok...

I feel that Duddy's struggle on Saturady was largely due to the size of Smichet as a fighter.

Duddy himself is 5'9'' and a half. In modern boxing this uis quite slight for a Middleweight but Duddy compensates with his broad shoulders and wide frame. In last Saturaday's fight Duddy found himself in an unfamiliar position...fighting an even shorter opponent. Duddy has become accustomed to approaching taller fighter and being the man who stays on the inside....With Smichet actually klusting for trading shots on the inside Duddy was thrown a loop. All he needed was to box like the taller fighter and use an uppercut, but being totally new to the "taller fighter" brand he failed miserably to employ this tactic. However, he did show grit in being just too tough for his game and hungry opponent.

Now I'm not Duddy's biggest fan although I am I4r5ish and follow his fights, but I know that there are few fighters worthy of the "Bum" moinqor, let alone a fighter who pours his heart and soul into his fights and has been triumphant thus far (al beeit I feel he's been gifted in the past.)

Hmmmm... Interesting. Ya know?... That makes a lot of sense. That did look like the problem.

Good call. I wasn't working it out in my head what the problem was. I mean besides the fact he could put his friggin hands up... But seriously, that makes a lot of sense!

[donnydarkoIRL]

Hmmmm... Interesting. Ya know?... That makes a lot of sense. That did look like the problem.

Good call. I wasn't working it out in my head what the problem was. I mean besides the fact he could put his friggin hands up... But seriously, that makes a lot of sense!

Man no need to put your hands up....
I spent a little time in a Duddy training camp before one of his irish fights. It's easy spot little problems when you spend all day watching him for a couple of weeks.

[El Kabong]

We want a fighter who is good enough to beat up his opponents when fighting stupid and smart enough to know when that won't work.

Now that I mention it. Cotto fits this description quite well.

Well you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets filled first.



That completely narrows your being a true fan of boxing. I am not saying you love a fighter like Duddy or Wlad but you cannot hate the extremes of boxing it's impossible to do. You either dislike the sweet science part of it or you dislike the brawlers.

If you don't accept one or the other and appreciate it then you've just become a fan of very few boxers and a hater of quite a few boxers

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Well you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets filled first.



That completely narrows your being a true fan of boxing. I am not saying you love a fighter like Duddy or Wlad but you cannot hate the extremes of boxing it's impossible to do. You either dislike the sweet science part of it or you dislike the brawlers.

If you don't accept one or the other and appreciate it then you've just become a fan of very few boxers and a hater of quite a few boxers

Well that's a great statement... I mean, look, I'm not troleing ESPN Classic for old Whitaker fights but I respect what he did and think he was a fantastic boxer... I appreciate his skills.

Boxing and Brawling is the yin and yang of boxing... I don't think there would be one without the other. They ofset eachother.

[El Kabong]

I totally agree Pride of Boston...my all-time favorite boxers are an ecclectic group of pure boxers like Willie Pep and pure punchers like a young George Foreman and everyone in between.

If you cannot appreciate a boxer and you cannot appreciate a brawler then you leave yourself very little in boxing to cheer for and lots to bitch about and frankly I am fucking tired of all the bitching

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I totally agree Pride of Boston...my all-time favorite boxers are an ecclectic group of pure boxers like Willie Pep and pure punchers like a young George Foreman and everyone in between.

If you cannot appreciate a boxer and you cannot appreciate a brawler then you leave yourself very little in boxing to cheer for and lots to bitch about and frankly I am fucking tired of all the bitching

LOL, as am I. Look, there's a shiteload wrong with the sport... But thank the lord there's more things good about if. Hell, if there wasn't would we even be here?

[El Kabong]

True and the guys who thumb their noses at fighters like Duddy are no better than the shitheads out there who don't know anything about boxing other than "Mike Tyson's Punch Out"

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

True and the guys who thumb their noses at fighters like Duddy are no better than the shitheads out there who don't know anything about boxing other than "Mike Tyson's Punch Out"

I guess we all start somewhere... Even if it happens to be being raked over the coals by members of a forum

[The Boxer]

as i'm reading the post i see a bunch of fanboys calling me an idoit for my statement but not to many reasons to back up why i'm an idiot.

You guys might like watching him but he look like shit to me. If you don't like it tough.

[The Rookie Fan]

Well you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets filled first.



That completely narrows your being a true fan of boxing. I am not saying you love a fighter like Duddy or Wlad but you cannot hate the extremes of boxing it's impossible to do. You either dislike the sweet science part of it or you dislike the brawlers.

If you don't accept one or the other and appreciate it then you've just become a fan of very few boxers and a hater of quite a few boxers

I think it was obvious that when I said "We" I was generalizing and when I described "What we want..." I meant in an Ideal world. Not in the real one. In other words I was being sarcastic...

I understand your point but you really need to sit back an chill for a while. I think this is the very first time someone in this forum has insinuated that I might be a hater...

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I think it was obvious that when I said "We" I was generalizing and when I described "What we want..." I meant in an Ideal world. Not in the real one. In other words I was being sarcastic...

I understand your point but you really need to sit back an chill for a while. I think this is the very first time someone in this forum has insinuated that I might be a hater...

Lol, it happens

[El Kabong]

I think it was obvious that when I said "We" I was generalizing and when I described "What we want..." I meant in an Ideal world. Not in the real one. In other words I was being sarcastic...

I understand your point but you really need to sit back an chill for a while. I think this is the very first time someone in this forum has insinuated that I might be a hater...

Well not appreciating what Duddy had to go through to win is pretty shitty. Sure he shouldn't have had as much trouble with this guy as he did but that does add drama to the fight.

Duddy has a lot he needs to work on but the kid has heart and he actually FIGHTS he doesn't box, he doesn't use any sweet science....he's a blood and guts brawler a la Arturo Gatti.

he's not Ray Robinson but his style doesn't make it fair to call him a BUM