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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Just a thought, Manny has blasted Floyd time and time again, saying that the fact that Floyd is not a great fighter because great fighters always look to finish and never coast to a decision.

    But yet he was encouraging Wlad, a 6'6'', 240lb guy with two sledgehammers for fists, to coast to a decision and not take any risks against a guy who most people though was a lamb waiting to be slaughtered.

    What gives?
    I think I remember Manny encouraging Him to go for a knockout In the late rounds (10 or 11)?Really was odd with Wlad apparently winning the rounds.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    I don't really think so...he was urging Wladimir to end the fight but Wladimir in the ring was obviously sensing that Sultan was waiting to slip and counter the right cross.

    Manny believes Wladimir should KO everyone he fights and honestly he's correct but Wladimir is a smart fighter and he's not going to rush into something that can backfire on him.


    Floyd has multiple fights like Wlad had with Sultan....he's known for his skill but also for running away and show boating and it takes away from how many view how great Floyd is.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    I think manny said something to the effect of, "you have to end this, it isn't going to be good if it goes the distance."
    "If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I don't really think so...he was urging Wladimir to end the fight but Wladimir in the ring was obviously sensing that Sultan was waiting to slip and counter the right cross.

    Manny believes Wladimir should KO everyone he fights and honestly he's correct but Wladimir is a smart fighter and he's not going to rush into something that can backfire on him.


    Floyd has multiple fights like Wlad had with Sultan....he's known for his skill but also for running away and show boating and it takes away from how many view how great Floyd is.

    I've thought about this a bit recently... And honestly, how is Wlad a smart fighter? He's a damn good fighter, but cautious is more the word I would use.. It isn't smart to do the bare minimum you need to and rely on your jab endlessly to set up the right hand.. If he were really a smart fighter, wouldn't he be looking to set traps, feint, mix it up a little? I think he has a very low boxing IQ personally, he just posseses physical advantages over basically everyone he fights that ensure he will always be able to work behind the jab.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    I also challenge you to name ONE Floyd fight that was even close to as boring as Wlad-Sultan. THe baldomir fight was probably his least exciting, but he still threw a variety of punches, showed ring generalship, and committed to the straight right whenever he could. If Wlad had(or was able to) employ half of his technique against Sultan he would have had the KO EARLY.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I also challenge you to name ONE Floyd fight that was even close to as boring as Wlad-Sultan. THe baldomir fight was probably his least exciting, but he still threw a variety of punches, showed ring generalship, and committed to the straight right whenever he could. If Wlad had(or was able to) employ half of his technique against Sultan he would have had the KO EARLY.
    Floyd knew he had someone in with him that had slow hands and no power at that!

    Wlad is a smart fighter BECAUSE he uses his size to his advantage, he did not use to do that in fact THAT got him beat vs Sanders, he was almost in a crouch for that fight....dumb for a guy his size. He has more strategy and he doesn't vary from it, he doesn't need to as no one has proven it ineffective.

    You can't argue against him being a good fighter....he may not entertain you but people said the exact same thing about Lennox Lewis

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Floyd knew he had someone in with him that had slow hands and no power at that!

    Wlad is a smart fighter BECAUSE he uses his size to his advantage, he did not use to do that in fact THAT got him beat vs Sanders, he was almost in a crouch for that fight....dumb for a guy his size. He has more strategy and he doesn't vary from it, he doesn't need to as no one has proven it ineffective.

    You can't argue against him being a good fighter....he may not entertain you but people said the exact same thing about Lennox Lewis
    Yes, but when I think about Lennox Lewis and spend time watching footage of him, he's a WAY smarter fighter than Wlad, for all the reasons I already mentioned. If he were'nt, he'd have been no better. He's the same size, has KO power in the right and a great jab. Maybe it's not so much boxing IQ as it is general athletecism and reflexes. It's a fine line, but whatever it is that made Lennox a great fighter, Wlad doesn't have it.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    I think I remember Manny encouraging Him to go for a knockout In the late rounds (10 or 11)?Really was odd with Wlad apparently winning the rounds.
    I remember the same thing

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Manny knew with all the hype and it beign a HW fight that anything less than a KO was going to be reviewed very critically (right or wrong). Manny was right however.
    "If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    A KO would have taken the sour taste outta how boring the fight was!!!
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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    A KO would have taken the sour taste outta how boring the fight was!!!
    ...apparently the ONLY Klitschko fight you've ever watched

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    Most of you know I don't watch the heavies so I can't confirm or deny that but, I have heard Manny say on several occassions that Floyd is not that great. He has said that Floyd is not as great as Ray Leonard or Ray Robinson. I don't know if Manny is hating or being a realist. I don't want to get into this because you all know I be hating on Floyd too. I am just stating what Manny has said in the past about Floyd and this has nothing to do with me. because we are talking about Manny.

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    Default Re: Emmanuel Steward: Hypocrite?

    I guess Manny doesn't feel Pernell Whittaker was a greal fighter.
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