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    Default Re: A few Mis-Conception's people tend to have when talking boxing

    My pet peave is how fans and especially announcers throw fighters under the bus when they lose a fight. There's a zero defect mentality that is insane. Somehow a guy makes more money if he has a spotless record regardless of the quality of the fights he puts on.

    Some people say that PBF deserves 8 figure purses because of his record. I say that's garbage. Guys like Marquez and Vasquez that leave it all in the ring deserve big purses for good shows. I think it's about the attempt to beat another man, not just outscore him. So for me it's an entertaining fight that deserves the hoopla, not an unblemished fighter.

    The reality is if fighters were fighting top notch competition often enough there wouldn't be any undefeated fighters. Even PBF. It's like the difference between a football season and a basketball season. No team will ever go undefeated in the NBA, it's just not possible because they compete too often. Boxing should be the same and all the true greats shouldn't be guided to the impressive record, just constant challenging fights. SRR wasn't undefeated, neither was Ali. If a fighter goes undefeated through the whole career it's more likely they were matched well than they are that superior in skill or ability. But fighters don't want to risk that because it makes them less marketable. I read an interview where a t.v. exec said that PBF is at the risk of losing his big paydays by losing a fight? Whoever made that rule is on crack. It doesn't make for better fights, it makes for safer fights. Kobe Bryant doesn't take a pay cut if the team loses. His salary is based upon his performance, he can perform well and still lose a game. So can fighters. Baby Bull performed well but lost the fight. Doesn't make him a lesser fighter. Shane Mosley performed well but lost to Cotto, Shane's stock shouldn't go down.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
    My pet peave is how fans and especially announcers throw fighters under the bus when they lose a fight. There's a zero defect mentality that is insane. Somehow a guy makes more money if he has a spotless record regardless of the quality of the fights he puts on.

    Some people say that PBF deserves 8 figure purses because of his record. I say that's garbage. Guys like Marquez and Vasquez that leave it all in the ring deserve big purses for good shows. I think it's about the attempt to beat another man, not just outscore him. So for me it's an entertaining fight that deserves the hoopla, not an unblemished fighter.

    The reality is if fighters were fighting top notch competition often enough there wouldn't be any undefeated fighters. Even PBF. It's like the difference between a football season and a basketball season. No team will ever go undefeated in the NBA, it's just not possible because they compete too often. Boxing should be the same and all the true greats shouldn't be guided to the impressive record, just constant challenging fights. SRR wasn't undefeated, neither was Ali. If a fighter goes undefeated through the whole career it's more likely they were matched well than they are that superior in skill or ability. But fighters don't want to risk that because it makes them less marketable. I read an interview where a t.v. exec said that PBF is at the risk of losing his big paydays by losing a fight? Whoever made that rule is on crack. It doesn't make for better fights, it makes for safer fights. Kobe Bryant doesn't take a pay cut if the team loses. His salary is based upon his performance, he can perform well and still lose a game. So can fighters. Baby Bull performed well but lost the fight. Doesn't make him a lesser fighter. Shane Mosley performed well but lost to Cotto, Shane's stock shouldn't go down.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Isnt the value of every single sportsman competing in every single spot majorly based on how succesful he/she actually is, rather than their value for money.

    You wouldnt see the powers that be in golf awarding jon daly the same prize money as a tiger woods just because he throws up something special every so often.

    Sure we all love the slober knocker fights. But ultimately regardless of his value for money if floyd mayweather is the greatest p4p fighter in the world then naturally he`ll command the greater pay packet
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    That MMA and Boxing should be compareable... They're not. Stop comparing them. It's exhausting... Nevermind idiotic. That is all.
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    Default Re: A few Mis-Conception's people tend to have when talking boxing

    Another misconception, lots of people think that a good NFL or NBA athlete would have become a great HW champion if they took up boxing instead, the reasoning of these people are that NBA/NFL athletes are big and athletic, thus they would be great HW champions is their conclusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Another misconception, lots of people think that a good NFL or NBA athlete would have become a great HW champion if they took up boxing instead, the reasoning of these people are that NBA/NFL athletes are big and athletic, thus they would be great HW champions is their conclusion
    I wouldn't necessarily call it a misconception though.

    While it is obviously true that any fighter has too first a) take a dig and b) be able learn his new trade... I would agree with the concept that with regards to attributes such as height, weight, stamina, speed & reflexes, these modern day athletes have bodies that are in a much more suitable condition to perform against the super heavyweights of today and could be much more than just Super-sized Mikkel Kesslers (no disrespect )
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    I agree with the posting and I believe that true re words were never said when some experts borrowed a quotation and applied it to boxing,"You are only as good as your last fight." By the way, I read somewhere that Ernie Terrell was a basketball player that made his way to a title fight with Ali. It was the "What's my name" theme. It was humiliating though.

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    Yeah Ali was hardly a 'Supersized Kessler'
    Matter of fact, last I heard, Ernie Tyrell wasn't exactly Kobe Bryant either!


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    Default Re: A few Mis-Conception's people tend to have when talking boxing

    My biggest pet peeve when it comes to Boxing are fans or should I say nuthuggers making the most pathetic excuses when their favourite fighter lost a fight.

    Excuses range from "Tito was affected by 9/11 in Hopkins fight" from a Tito nuthugger to "Rahman never trained for the rematch with Lewis" from an American who clearly hates Lennox Lewis.

    Another is the A beat B, B beat C, so A should easily beat C crap some fans post.

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