Im after a heavy bag that doesnt really move when i punch it.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Chris raised some good points.

A very heavy bag may help your fitness and power, but it will not help your movement much.

[Chris Nagel]

"A very heavy bag may help your fitness and power, but it will not help your movement much."

Not necessarily, it can still help your movement, not just fitness and power. The thing with a heavier heavy bag, is that it will swing when you need it to, via a push and not a punch.

I don't advocate hitting a bag that is practically immovable, but for realism sake it's a good idea to have a bag that can respond in some ways like a real opponent.

Floyd Patterson, in his "how to box" book warned that using heavier punching bags may lead to a lack of footwork. Although this may hold true, it can be prevented by keeping your opponent in mind while working the bag.

I suppose that in a perfect gym you can an "a la carte" choice for bags allowing you to work on many different things.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I find that a bag thats very heavy makes you concentrate on hitting most. I find when it oes swing it's temporary, where as a medium weight bag will provide a certain degree of movement, as an opponent would.

A medium weight bag allows me to envision "steering the opponent."

I want an opponent to move to my right I throw a left hook, he moves right I step to my left, he's entirely to my right.....Things like that you know.

[Chris Nagel]

I find that a bag thats very heavy makes you concentrate on hitting most. I find when it oes swing it's temporary, where as a medium weight bag will provide a certain degree of movement, as an opponent would.

A medium weight bag allows me to envision "steering the opponent."

I want an opponent to move to my right I throw a left hook, he moves right I step to my left, he's entirely to my right.....Things like that you know.

Good insight Don, I agree with you. You'd have to give it a push every time you wanted it to swing again, and which I can imagine could lead to some awkward habits in the ring.

The punching bag that I'm using now is not too heavy, and I'm also able to work on the same things that you've mentioned. I feel that with a 70-80 pound bag I get the best of both worlds, I can work on movement and power. If possible it would also be a good idea to work with different sized bags to put emphasis on different things.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yeah I agree Chris.

There is a fitness gym I go to and they've got a bag for kick boxing up. The thing is about 2 feet in diameter and must be 200lbs+

I use that in my last two weeks of training, just gunning into it an forcing it to swing, this really primes my "aggresive" punching for competition.

I fiond the "pear shaped bag" or tear drop bags, develop a habit of holding the hands a bit wqide and hooking more than is desirable. I just find that from training on it persona;lly, no observation or anything.

[Douglas]

Yeah I agree Chris.

There is a fitness gym I go to and they've got a bag for kick boxing up. The thing is about 2 feet in diameter and must be 200lbs+

I use that in my last two weeks of training, just gunning into it an forcing it to swing, this really primes my "aggresive" punching for competition.

I fiond the "pear shaped bag" or tear drop bags, develop a habit of holding the hands a bit wqide and hooking more than is desirable. I just find that from training on it persona;lly, no observation or anything.

So I guess there is a bag over 120 lbs.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yeah man...
In my gym we've got a few custom ones bout 200lbs or so....
Then we've got heaps of light ones and a few tear drops of differing weights.

Its all in the filling though as they're all a similar size.

[RozzySean]

Yeah I agree Chris.

There is a fitness gym I go to and they've got a bag for kick boxing up. The thing is about 2 feet in diameter and must be 200lbs+

I use that in my last two weeks of training, just gunning into it an forcing it to swing, this really primes my "aggresive" punching for competition.

I fiond the "pear shaped bag" or tear drop bags, develop a habit of holding the hands a bit wqide and hooking more than is desirable. I just find that from training on it persona;lly, no observation or anything.

I wouldn't want that to be my only bag, but we have one at our gym, and I use it from time to time. I can see what you are saying. I use that bag to work on combination with hooks and uppercut. We also have that weird skinny bag. I've played around with it, but I would rather use the double-ended for that kind of work.

[Douglas]

Once I saw a punching bag that was soft but very bouncy. When you punched it, it would practically send your fist right back into your face. Seems like it's improve wrist strength.