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    Default Re: What happened to building a complete fighter?

    One of the last kids (now a man) to be build and carried properly is Cotto.
    While everyone cried and complained that he hadn't fought anybody and all I kept telling people it's called building a fighter....
    All they did was roll their eyes at me.

    A few fighters today whom I think they are building them properly are Linares, Mares, Chazz, Aaron Williams, BCD, Devon. Among others...


    Remember what happened to Vargas, he was quickly put in the ring against Tito, ODLH, Campas, Ike back to back.... Not a good idea and def. not a way to build a fighter.

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    Default Re: What happened to building a complete fighter?

    I like how the Peterson brothers are being trained, they've got more dimensions to their game than most young fighters, infighting, outside fighting, can go forward, fight on the back foot, both could jab more and who knows if they'll make it but at least there not such one dimensional fighters like a lot of these jab right hand hold young fighters are.

    Their opposition has been really soft but sometimes that works out well, Pavlik was brought along pretty slow.

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    Default Re: What happened to building a complete fighter?

    As Ouma and Mick have said there are plenty of up and comers who show real potential but just don't have the popularity of a John Duddy.

    The Peterson brothers, Andre Direll, Andre Ward, Andre Berto, Steve Molitor, Jorge Linares, Amir Khan are all fighters who look to have terrific potential.

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    Default Re: What happened to building a complete fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I like how the Peterson brothers are being trained, they've got more dimensions to their game than most young fighters, infighting, outside fighting, can go forward, fight on the back foot, both could jab more and who knows if they'll make it but at least there not such one dimensional fighters like a lot of these jab right hand hold young fighters are.

    Their opposition has been really soft but sometimes that works out well, Pavlik was brought along pretty slow.
    Great calls Ouma...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    One of the last kids (now a man) to be build and carried properly is Cotto.
    While everyone cried and complained that he hadn't fought anybody and all I kept telling people it's called building a fighter....
    All they did was roll their eyes at me.

    A few fighters today whom I think they are building them properly are Linares, Mares, Chazz, Aaron Williams, BCD, Devon. Among others...


    Remember what happened to Vargas, he was quickly put in the ring against Tito, ODLH, Campas, Ike back to back.... Not a good idea and def. not a way to build a fighter.
    I was just about to use Cotto as the perfect example. I actually think they're trying to do this with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. but he needs a step up. You're getting good rep from me, but you're stealing the opinions from my mind again!

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    I like the look of the Petersons and Linares look good Fighters
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    Default Re: What happened to building a complete fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    I like the look of the Petersons and Linares look good Fighters
    Agreed.

    There are some complete fighters out there. I'd say Andre Ward is developing into a very complete fighter. The Petersons are much the same. Of the young guys I'd also say, even after the loss, that Juan Diaz is a pretty well rounded fighter.

    It's a psychology thing. When you have one thing, like power, working so well for you as a young fighter, you tend to fall in love with it and ignore the finer things and they don't pay for it. That is until they get into the ring with someone who recognizes this and then they pay and often times it's too late by that time.

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    Default Re: What happened to building a complete fighter?

    Pavlik was brought along properly also. A slow steady progression until they thought he was ready. He did fight some tough SOB's along the way like Zuniga who dropped him. But I think that also helped him when in trouble with Taylor in the first fight.

    He is no Cotto skill wise, but I think they did well with the tools he offered them.

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