Rains VS VD fight in here and keep the main board clean.

[Julius Rain]

What happened to Pacquiao in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 when Cassamayor offered to drop down to Pacquiaos weight class, after calling him out...He stated he wanted Pacquiao and Pacquiao refused no less then 3 times....In Fact he told me himself....

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3930-excl...casamayor.html

No one was looking to fact Joel then unless they had to....Even in his losses he was never made to look out classed...a few were even boarder line robberies...only an on fire Freitas managed to beat him decisevly....

So at 36 after being screwed out of big money fights and avoided by some who could have contributed to those big money fights to say the guys much younger might beat him is just a nonsense statement

DAXx you and I know, casa has always been this way. Everytime someone appears to rise in popularity his been jealous and will try to talk himself into others business. why in the world would pacs camp take casa seriously about a fight, while pac had so much greater legends hall of famers in his own division?

Pac had politics, mexicans, mistress etc... a lot to make him happy and wealthy, who in their right mind would take casa a jealous fighter seriously? do you really think pac would earn a lot in fighting casa? and wh bother he had eric,mab,jmm to worry about. casa was just after the big pay day. he needed pac for that but pac didn't need him.

casa is a great fighter, but i hate his jealous as ways. ever since his first fight with chico. i remember he called chico and castillo cowards or pussies. the guy needs a hug and attention, his a fighter not a child. I can't respect that. i respect his skill inside but i hope you get my point daxx.

You ain't fooling no one. And Pac ain't fooling no one. You talk about big money fights. You really think there's big money in Pac-David Diaz? No there is not. Pac has been very lucky in his career. I give him credit for his first win over Barrera. But that's it. He was lucky to catch Morales on the slide (and still lost the first fight). He was given 2 gift wins over Marquez. And he's lucky that David Diaz is holding a title at Lightweight. That way he can move up and beat a weak champion and take he's title. Pac has already turned down 6 million to fight Marquez again. And has refused to call out Casamayor or Campbell. What's that tell you? You probably don't know. Cuz your to much of a groupie to see what's in front of you

v.d your always talking out from your ass when it comes to pac cause your too much of a anti pac. Only reason why pac is set for david diaz is cuase of bob arum, pac will fight anybody and you need to believe that. Look at your boy floyd his jump weights 6 times to capture abc titles from weak champs. pac ain't turned down 6 millions to fight jmm, Pac already said he'll fight jmm again and again and again! Man do you think pac is superman, go right to the guys you think is best at the division. His done that plenty of times, he jump to 126 to fight who? 126 king Marco, 130 right to Eric. Now you want him to jump right into casa and campbell, geez let him test the water for a minute. Can you honestly say pac can't beat campbell and casa now? those two are for the taking just like all the daiz. YOu know it boy pac is dangerous for any fighter. I ain't no groupie I tell it like how it is. Honestly JMM is still the only guy out there left to argue with pac. Jmm imo will beat all the diaz, casa and campbell. Pac and Jmm are the truth. the lightweight is theres for the taking.

[Violent Demise]

DAXx you and I know, casa has always been this way. Everytime someone appears to rise in popularity his been jealous and will try to talk himself into others business. why in the world would pacs camp take casa seriously about a fight, while pac had so much greater legends hall of famers in his own division?

Pac had politics, mexicans, mistress etc... a lot to make him happy and wealthy, who in their right mind would take casa a jealous fighter seriously? do you really think pac would earn a lot in fighting casa? and wh bother he had eric,mab,jmm to worry about. casa was just after the big pay day. he needed pac for that but pac didn't need him.

casa is a great fighter, but i hate his jealous as ways. ever since his first fight with chico. i remember he called chico and castillo cowards or pussies. the guy needs a hug and attention, his a fighter not a child. I can't respect that. i respect his skill inside but i hope you get my point daxx.

You ain't fooling no one. And Pac ain't fooling no one. You talk about big money fights. You really think there's big money in Pac-David Diaz? No there is not. Pac has been very lucky in his career. I give him credit for his first win over Barrera. But that's it. He was lucky to catch Morales on the slide (and still lost the first fight). He was given 2 gift wins over Marquez. And he's lucky that David Diaz is holding a title at Lightweight. That way he can move up and beat a weak champion and take he's title. Pac has already turned down 6 million to fight Marquez again. And has refused to call out Casamayor or Campbell. What's that tell you? You probably don't know. Cuz your to much of a groupie to see what's in front of you

v.d your always talking out from your ass when it comes to pac cause your too much of a anti pac. Only reason why pac is set for david diaz is cuase of bob arum, pac will fight anybody and you need to believe that. Look at your boy floyd his jump weights 6 times to capture abc titles from weak champs. pac ain't turned down 6 millions to fight jmm, Pac already said he'll fight jmm again and again and again! Man do you think pac is superman, go right to the guys you think is best at the division. His done that plenty of times, he jump to 126 to fight who? 126 king Marco, 130 right to Eric. Now you want him to jump right into casa and campbell, geez let him test the water for a minute. Can you honestly say pac can't beat campbell and casa now? those two are for the taking just like all the daiz. YOu know it boy pac is dangerous for any fighter. I ain't no groupie I tell it like how it is. Honestly JMM is still the only guy out there left to argue with pac. Jmm imo will beat all the diaz, casa and campbell. Pac and Jmm are the truth. the lightweight is theres for the taking.

You are so fucking predictable. Every time you get shut down (which is a lot) and don't know what to say you look for ways to switch subjects. This ain't a Mayweather thread. Stick to the fucking subject. Fact is David Diaz is a fucking easy fight compare to Casamayor and Campbell. And you fucking know it. Golden Boy has already offered Pac 6 million to fight Marquez again. Has Pac excepted it. No. Why? Cuz he knows he can't beat him. Pac is content to have 2 gift wins over him.

[Julius Rain]

You ain't fooling no one. And Pac ain't fooling no one. You talk about big money fights. You really think there's big money in Pac-David Diaz? No there is not. Pac has been very lucky in his career. I give him credit for his first win over Barrera. But that's it. He was lucky to catch Morales on the slide (and still lost the first fight). He was given 2 gift wins over Marquez. And he's lucky that David Diaz is holding a title at Lightweight. That way he can move up and beat a weak champion and take he's title. Pac has already turned down 6 million to fight Marquez again. And has refused to call out Casamayor or Campbell. What's that tell you? You probably don't know. Cuz your to much of a groupie to see what's in front of you

v.d your always talking out from your ass when it comes to pac cause your too much of a anti pac. Only reason why pac is set for david diaz is cuase of bob arum, pac will fight anybody and you need to believe that. Look at your boy floyd his jump weights 6 times to capture abc titles from weak champs. pac ain't turned down 6 millions to fight jmm, Pac already said he'll fight jmm again and again and again! Man do you think pac is superman, go right to the guys you think is best at the division. His done that plenty of times, he jump to 126 to fight who? 126 king Marco, 130 right to Eric. Now you want him to jump right into casa and campbell, geez let him test the water for a minute. Can you honestly say pac can't beat campbell and casa now? those two are for the taking just like all the daiz. YOu know it boy pac is dangerous for any fighter. I ain't no groupie I tell it like how it is. Honestly JMM is still the only guy out there left to argue with pac. Jmm imo will beat all the diaz, casa and campbell. Pac and Jmm are the truth. the lightweight is theres for the taking.

You are so fucking predictable. Every time you get shut down (which is a lot) and don't know what to say you look for ways to switch subjects. This ain't a Mayweather thread. Stick to the fucking subject. Fact is David Diaz is a fucking easy fight compare to Casamayor and Campbell. And you fucking know it. Golden Boy has already offered Pac 6 million to fight Marquez again. Has Pac excepted it. No. Why? Cuz he knows he can't beat him. Pac is content to have 2 gift wins over him.

wtf are you talking about, your the one with nothing better to reply. I never denied diaz was an easier fight, I actually ask you did you think pac was superman cause you want him in no easy fight but content with floyd getting easy fights. I only brought up floyd cause his the symbol of nit picking fights.

Pac was offered 6 millions and he never declined, Pac stated he'll fight jmm again. go do a drive by or something cause you dont have no point with what your saying. pac has already beaten jmm, its jmm who keeps coming up short. history has been written buddy, jmm like eric and mab is in pacs win column now. but if you'd like to think jmm still won cause your the only one in this planet to score it 116-111 for jmm then its what ever lets you sleep at night, gangster

[Violent Demise]

v.d your always talking out from your ass when it comes to pac cause your too much of a anti pac. Only reason why pac is set for david diaz is cuase of bob arum, pac will fight anybody and you need to believe that. Look at your boy floyd his jump weights 6 times to capture abc titles from weak champs. pac ain't turned down 6 millions to fight jmm, Pac already said he'll fight jmm again and again and again! Man do you think pac is superman, go right to the guys you think is best at the division. His done that plenty of times, he jump to 126 to fight who? 126 king Marco, 130 right to Eric. Now you want him to jump right into casa and campbell, geez let him test the water for a minute. Can you honestly say pac can't beat campbell and casa now? those two are for the taking just like all the daiz. YOu know it boy pac is dangerous for any fighter. I ain't no groupie I tell it like how it is. Honestly JMM is still the only guy out there left to argue with pac. Jmm imo will beat all the diaz, casa and campbell. Pac and Jmm are the truth. the lightweight is theres for the taking.

You are so fucking predictable. Every time you get shut down (which is a lot) and don't know what to say you look for ways to switch subjects. This ain't a Mayweather thread. Stick to the fucking subject. Fact is David Diaz is a fucking easy fight compare to Casamayor and Campbell. And you fucking know it. Golden Boy has already offered Pac 6 million to fight Marquez again. Has Pac excepted it. No. Why? Cuz he knows he can't beat him. Pac is content to have 2 gift wins over him.

wtf are you talking about, your the one with nothing better to reply. I never denied diaz was an easier fight, I actually ask you did you think pac was superman cause you want him in no easy fight but content with floyd getting easy fights. I only brought up floyd cause his the symbol of nit picking fights.

Pac was offered 6 millions and he never declined, Pac stated he'll fight jmm again. go do a drive by or something cause you dont have no point with what your saying. pac has already beaten jmm, its jmm who keeps coming up short. history has been written buddy, jmm like eric and mab is in pacs win column now. but if you'd like to think jmm still won cause your the only one in this planet to score it 116-111 for jmm then its what ever lets you sleep at night, gangster

This is a Casamayor-Pac discussion. But again you bring up Mayweather. Why? Cuz your getting schooled and are looking to change subjects. And your stupid if you think De La Hoya is an easy fight.

Fact is that there's a 6 million dollar offer from Golden Boy on the table. Has Pac accepted it? No he has not. Arum has said no. You really think Arum makes choices for Pac? No he does not. If Pac really wanted to fight Marquez again he would take it. But no. He talks about fighting David Diaz.

And I just saw the replay of Marquez-Pac again. There is no doubt Marquez won 116-111. 115-112 at the worst.

[Julius Rain]

You are so fucking predictable. Every time you get shut down (which is a lot) and don't know what to say you look for ways to switch subjects. This ain't a Mayweather thread. Stick to the fucking subject. Fact is David Diaz is a fucking easy fight compare to Casamayor and Campbell. And you fucking know it. Golden Boy has already offered Pac 6 million to fight Marquez again. Has Pac excepted it. No. Why? Cuz he knows he can't beat him. Pac is content to have 2 gift wins over him.

wtf are you talking about, your the one with nothing better to reply. I never denied diaz was an easier fight, I actually ask you did you think pac was superman cause you want him in no easy fight but content with floyd getting easy fights. I only brought up floyd cause his the symbol of nit picking fights.

Pac was offered 6 millions and he never declined, Pac stated he'll fight jmm again. go do a drive by or something cause you dont have no point with what your saying. pac has already beaten jmm, its jmm who keeps coming up short. history has been written buddy, jmm like eric and mab is in pacs win column now. but if you'd like to think jmm still won cause your the only one in this planet to score it 116-111 for jmm then its what ever lets you sleep at night, gangster

This is a Casamayor-Pac discussion. But again you bring up Mayweather. Why? Cuz your getting schooled and are looking to change subjects. And your stupid if you think De La Hoya is an easy fight.

Fact is that there's a 6 million dollar offer from Golden Boy on the table. Has Pac accepted it? No he has not. Arum has said no. You really think Arum makes choices for Pac? No he does not. If Pac really wanted to fight Marquez again he would take it. But no. He talks about fighting David Diaz.

And I just saw the replay of Marquez-Pac again. There is no doubt Marquez won 116-111. 115-112 at the worst.

those guys were crying babies, throwing out overstatements. They don't really have 6 millions they can't even produce that much for jmm let alone pac? arum is no fool, he knows whats up. i know it and you know it arum is the true pimp of the game. Pac is already set to fight david diaz, his likely to take on jmm again but believe me offer from those guys are not to be taken seriously so quick. Like arum said look at what they did with rafa isreal trilogy they did a horrible job promoting it. Arum knows best and pac taking on david first then jmm will produce better Chi ching for both fighters.

Quit being a blind anti pac, you should know how the game works. you know arum is the true pimp of the game Not don king, not warren and not certain goldenboy.

We will see who eats his word about pac avoiding jmm and not taking the fight. thats laughable even you should know by now pac will fight jmm anywhere, anytime. Remember who was it that went to indonesia for what 30k instead a mill for a rematch 3 and a half years ago with pac? I dont discredit jmm for that, unlike you, you try anything to be an anti pac.

[Violent Demise]

wtf are you talking about, your the one with nothing better to reply. I never denied diaz was an easier fight, I actually ask you did you think pac was superman cause you want him in no easy fight but content with floyd getting easy fights. I only brought up floyd cause his the symbol of nit picking fights.

Pac was offered 6 millions and he never declined, Pac stated he'll fight jmm again. go do a drive by or something cause you dont have no point with what your saying. pac has already beaten jmm, its jmm who keeps coming up short. history has been written buddy, jmm like eric and mab is in pacs win column now. but if you'd like to think jmm still won cause your the only one in this planet to score it 116-111 for jmm then its what ever lets you sleep at night, gangster

This is a Casamayor-Pac discussion. But again you bring up Mayweather. Why? Cuz your getting schooled and are looking to change subjects. And your stupid if you think De La Hoya is an easy fight.

Fact is that there's a 6 million dollar offer from Golden Boy on the table. Has Pac accepted it? No he has not. Arum has said no. You really think Arum makes choices for Pac? No he does not. If Pac really wanted to fight Marquez again he would take it. But no. He talks about fighting David Diaz.

And I just saw the replay of Marquez-Pac again. There is no doubt Marquez won 116-111. 115-112 at the worst.

those guys were crying babies, throwing out overstatements. They don't really have 6 millions they can't even produce that much for jmm let alone pac? arum is no fool, he knows whats up. i know it and you know it arum is the true pimp of the game. Pac is already set to fight david diaz, his likely to take on jmm again but believe me offer from those guys are not to be taken seriously so quick. Like arum said look at what they did with rafa isreal trilogy they did a horrible job promoting it. Arum knows best and pac taking on david first then jmm will produce better Chi ching for both fighters.

Quit being a blind anti pac, you should know how the game works. you know arum is the true pimp of the game Not don king, not warren and not certain goldenboy.

We will see who eats his word about pac avoiding jmm and not taking the fight. thats laughable even you should know by now pac will fight jmm anywhere, anytime. Remember who was it that went to indonesia for what 30k instead a mill for a rematch 3 and a half years ago with pac? I dont discredit jmm for that, unlike you, you try anything to be an anti pac.

Every time I think you can't get any stupider. You surprise me and do. You don't think Golden Boy can come up with 6 million? De La Hoya loses 6 million between the cushions in his couch. You actually believe Arum? The man who said "yesterday i was lying, today I'm telling truth". LOL. Damn you believe anything.

And how is Pac set up to fight Diaz? There's no contract signed yet. Fact is Pac wants to fight Diaz. Cuz he's the weaker fighter. And he can pick up a meaningless belt in the process. Pac doesn't want to fight Marquez again. And he sure as hell doesn't want to fight Casamayor or Campbell.

[Julius Rain]

This is a Casamayor-Pac discussion. But again you bring up Mayweather. Why? Cuz your getting schooled and are looking to change subjects. And your stupid if you think De La Hoya is an easy fight.

Fact is that there's a 6 million dollar offer from Golden Boy on the table. Has Pac accepted it? No he has not. Arum has said no. You really think Arum makes choices for Pac? No he does not. If Pac really wanted to fight Marquez again he would take it. But no. He talks about fighting David Diaz.

And I just saw the replay of Marquez-Pac again. There is no doubt Marquez won 116-111. 115-112 at the worst.

those guys were crying babies, throwing out overstatements. They don't really have 6 millions they can't even produce that much for jmm let alone pac? arum is no fool, he knows whats up. i know it and you know it arum is the true pimp of the game. Pac is already set to fight david diaz, his likely to take on jmm again but believe me offer from those guys are not to be taken seriously so quick. Like arum said look at what they did with rafa isreal trilogy they did a horrible job promoting it. Arum knows best and pac taking on david first then jmm will produce better Chi ching for both fighters.

Quit being a blind anti pac, you should know how the game works. you know arum is the true pimp of the game Not don king, not warren and not certain goldenboy.

We will see who eats his word about pac avoiding jmm and not taking the fight. thats laughable even you should know by now pac will fight jmm anywhere, anytime. Remember who was it that went to indonesia for what 30k instead a mill for a rematch 3 and a half years ago with pac? I dont discredit jmm for that, unlike you, you try anything to be an anti pac.

Every time I think you can't get any stupider. You surprise me and do. You don't think Golden Boy can come up with 6 million? De La Hoya loses 6 million between the cushions in his couch. You actually believe Arum? The man who said "yesterday i was lying, today I'm telling truth". LOL. Damn you believe anything.

And how is Pac set up to fight Diaz? There's no contract signed yet. Fact is Pac wants to fight Diaz. Cuz he's the weaker fighter. And he can pick up a meaningless belt in the process. Pac doesn't want to fight Marquez again. And he sure as hell doesn't want to fight Casamayor or Campbell.

stfu v.d why the fck won't they make jmm close to 6 million then. it don'w work like that dumbass.

your so stuck on that pac avoiding your fighters shyt, your losing the respect i actually have for you! seriously man get of the anti medicine, pac is no ducker. give it a rest.