Can't Believe It! Everyone sez Marquez Won & I Believed, Shame on Me!

[josef4334]

4 times not 5.

I think he's adding the incident where JMM in trouble and holding on the rope. Just like Pac knocked down Barrera but ref Lawrence Cole called it a slip.

Well thats stupid because ref did not call it a knockdown, and i didn't think it was a knockdown anyway. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks the ref's decision is final and officially its 4 knockdowns end of.

come on ICB. you are better than that. so if you're saying this, then you're also saying that MAB didnt score a KD against jmm coz the ref didnt call it?

[ICB]

I think he's adding the incident where JMM in trouble and holding on the rope. Just like Pac knocked down Barrera but ref Lawrence Cole called it a slip.

Well thats stupid because ref did not call it a knockdown, and i didn't think it was a knockdown anyway. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks the ref's decision is final and officially its 4 knockdowns end of.

come on ICB. you are better than that. so if you're saying this, then you're also saying that MAB didnt score a KD against jmm coz the ref didnt call it?

As i recall Barrera hit Marquez with a clean counter right and both of Marquez's gloves touched the canvas. Marquez was hit by Pacquiao but didn't go down, and he wasn't on his way down even if he wouldn't of held onto the ropes. Unless im wrong don't the rules state that its only called a knockdown if your on your way down to the canvas and you hold the ropes to stop yourself from going down. As i recall that did not happen in Marquez vs Pacquiao 2. But i will watch it again because i could be wrong.

[ICB]

Well thats stupid because ref did not call it a knockdown, and i didn't think it was a knockdown anyway. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks the ref's decision is final and officially its 4 knockdowns end of.

come on ICB. you are better than that. so if you're saying this, then you're also saying that MAB didnt score a KD against jmm coz the ref didnt call it?

As i recall Barrera hit Marquez with a clean counter right and both of Marquez's gloves touched the canvas. Marquez was hit by Pacquiao but didn't go down, and he wasn't on his way down even if he wouldn't of held onto the ropes. Unless im wrong don't the rules state that its only called a knockdown if your on your way down to the canvas and you hold the ropes to stop yourself from going down. As i recall that did not happen in Marquez vs Pacquiao 2. But i will watch it again because i could be wrong.

Just re watched it and yes it could of been scored a knockdown but even if it would of been i would have still had it a draw. And all the people on this board with 115-112 scorecards would have still had Marquez winning as well.

[ICB]

Bruce you scoring the 11th round for Pacquiao is a bit of a mystery to me i just re watched that round and that was clear cut round for Marquez. He stunned Pacquiao twice in that round and landed the better shots in that round. I think you need to re watch that round because if you would score that round for Marquez you would have Marquez winning.

[brucelee]

Bruce you scoring the 11th round for Pacquiao is a bit of a mystery to me i just re watched that round and that was clear cut round for Marquez. He stunned Pacquiao twice in that round and landed the better shots in that round. I think you need to re watch that round because if you would score that round for Marquez you would have Marquez winning.

I will surely watch it again as many times as possible if that will settle the issue. hope you also do the same.

[ICB]

Bruce you scoring the 11th round for Pacquiao is a bit of a mystery to me i just re watched that round and that was clear cut round for Marquez. He stunned Pacquiao twice in that round and landed the better shots in that round. I think you need to re watch that round because if you would score that round for Marquez you would have Marquez winning.

I will surely watch it again as many times as possible if that will settle the issue. hope you also do the same.

Please do im not complaining about your scorecard but i just think 11th was Marquez's round clearly so i would like you to re watch that round and give me your opinion.

[josef4334]

come on ICB. you are better than that. so if you're saying this, then you're also saying that MAB didnt score a KD against jmm coz the ref didnt call it?

As i recall Barrera hit Marquez with a clean counter right and both of Marquez's gloves touched the canvas. Marquez was hit by Pacquiao but didn't go down, and he wasn't on his way down even if he wouldn't of held onto the ropes. Unless im wrong don't the rules state that its only called a knockdown if your on your way down to the canvas and you hold the ropes to stop yourself from going down. As i recall that did not happen in Marquez vs Pacquiao 2. But i will watch it again because i could be wrong.

Just re watched it and yes it could of been scored a knockdown but even if it would of been i would have still had it a draw. And all the people on this board with 115-112 scorecards would have still had Marquez winning as well.

see.. i know you're better than that. but then again, why do you keep insisting the outcome of the fight? neither of us can change that. just like you said, the decision was final.

[ICB]

As i recall Barrera hit Marquez with a clean counter right and both of Marquez's gloves touched the canvas. Marquez was hit by Pacquiao but didn't go down, and he wasn't on his way down even if he wouldn't of held onto the ropes. Unless im wrong don't the rules state that its only called a knockdown if your on your way down to the canvas and you hold the ropes to stop yourself from going down. As i recall that did not happen in Marquez vs Pacquiao 2. But i will watch it again because i could be wrong.

Just re watched it and yes it could of been scored a knockdown but even if it would of been i would have still had it a draw. And all the people on this board with 115-112 scorecards would have still had Marquez winning as well.

see.. i know you're better than that. but then again, why do you keep insisting the outcome of the fight? neither of us can change that. just like you said, the decision was final.

I was just saying that even if the other knockdown would of been scored i would have still had it a draw.