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    Default Re: Can't Believe It! Everyone sez Marquez Won & I Believed, Shame on Me!

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    Well thats stupid because ref did not call it a knockdown, and i didn't think it was a knockdown anyway. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks the ref's decision is final and officially its 4 knockdowns end of.
    ...Just like the ring officials judged the fight an overall win for Pac. The decision is final.
    When did i ever say it wasn't ?? but that doesn't mean people can't debate over the decision.
    We can. But the ring officials sees what we pacfans saw that night - a victory for Pac.

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    Default Re: Can't Believe It! Everyone sez Marquez Won & I Believed, Shame on Me!

    stop it guys, he'll just hold more grudge against us pacfans.

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    ...Just like the ring officials judged the fight an overall win for Pac. The decision is final.
    When did i ever say it wasn't ?? but that doesn't mean people can't debate over the decision.
    We can. But the ring officials sees what we pacfans saw that night - a victory for Pac.
    What rounds did you score for Pac ??

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    Default Re: Can't Believe It! Everyone sez Marquez Won & I Believed, Shame on Me!

    ....a pac fan that didn't watch the fight as it happened ??!!
    Hidden Content Click clack ! Give up the purse.........or yetti will find you.

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    Default Re: Can't Believe It! Everyone sez Marquez Won & I Believed, Shame on Me!

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    When did i ever say it wasn't ?? but that doesn't mean people can't debate over the decision.
    We can. But the ring officials sees what we pacfans saw that night - a victory for Pac.
    What rounds did you score for Pac ??
    My opinions will not matter to you coz you already made up your mind. You think Marquez won and that's it (that's your mind set). You're just gonna contradict everything I say anyways. But here it goes... Hear me out now...

    I had some rounds even. Yes, believe it. From watching the fight over and over again, I keep changing my mind from 113-114 Pacquiao and 115-116 Pacquiao. That's how close the fight was. Many times I was tempted to watch the fight carefully of both fighters on tape and score it round by round, with the freest option to view a round as often as I wish to get a better assessment of the winner. In my own final scorecards MP won (116-115). For me, Rds 1, 7, 9 & 12 are even 10. Rds 3, 4, 10 & 11 are for Manny (10-8, 10-9, 10-9, 10-9) respectively. Rds 2, 5, 6, 8 are for JMM (10-9). All rounds, MP is always the agreesor landing power blows compared to JMM landing many blows but it did'nt hurt MP much and JMM normally backs off counter punching. But when he tries to fight toe-to toe with MP in rd 3, he was KD, so he goes back to counter-punching. Thus, he cannot sustain the hard power blows of MP toe-to toe.

    Eventually, though I felt it would be unfair to the three judges hired to score it based on what they saw in their angle in real time.

    The three gentlemen may well be the most pressured ones inside the venue, what with a drawback of having only one angle of the fight despite sitting at ringside and the thought of being ridiculed if they erred.

    Having said that: - the verdict is to live with the official decision because the ruling may be debatable but definitely not controversial just like I wrote in my blog.

    Peace...













    Hey Manny, nice shoes!!!

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    The only thing i disagree with is 12th round being even that was JMM's round no doubt in my mind, and 11th was JMM's as well IMO anyway's.

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    Default Re: Can't Believe It! Everyone sez Marquez Won & I Believed, Shame on Me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
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    We can. But the ring officials sees what we pacfans saw that night - a victory for Pac.
    What rounds did you score for Pac ??
    My opinions will not matter to you coz you already made up your mind. You think Marquez won and that's it (that's your mind set). You're just gonna contradict everything I say anyways. But here it goes... Hear me out now...

    I had some rounds even. Yes, believe it. From watching the fight over and over again, I keep changing my mind from 113-114 Pacquiao and 115-116 Pacquiao. That's how close the fight was. Many times I was tempted to watch the fight carefully of both fighters on tape and score it round by round, with the freest option to view a round as often as I wish to get a better assessment of the winner. In my own final scorecards MP won (116-115). For me, Rds 1, 7, 9 & 12 are even 10. Rds 3, 4, 10 & 11 are for Manny (10-8, 10-9, 10-9, 10-9) respectively. Rds 2, 5, 6, 8 are for JMM (10-9). All rounds, MP is always the agreesor landing power blows compared to JMM landing many blows but it did'nt hurt MP much and JMM normally backs off counter punching. But when he tries to fight toe-to toe with MP in rd 3, he was KD, so he goes back to counter-punching. Thus, he cannot sustain the hard power blows of MP toe-to toe.

    Eventually, though I felt it would be unfair to the three judges hired to score it based on what they saw in their angle in real time.

    The three gentlemen may well be the most pressured ones inside the venue, what with a drawback of having only one angle of the fight despite sitting at ringside and the thought of being ridiculed if they erred.

    Having said that: - the verdict is to live with the official decision because the ruling may be debatable but definitely not controversial just like I wrote in my blog.

    Peace...













    Hey Manny, nice shoes!!!
    This post deserves a rep but unfortunately the system prevents me from doing it.

    Round 11 is truly for Pacquaio. I agree with the issue on judging real time. ICB, you should know that very well coz even you made a mistake of proclaiming it a robbery while you were doing the RBR.

    There is a great difference in judging it through video and real time. The pressure and all the past face action can't simply be caught easily while watching it live.

    Anyway, after watching the video, am still convinced that Pacquaio won that fight fairly. By landing the harder shots alone (by way of KD), one cannot deny the fact that Pacquaio did better in that fight.

    If Marquez aint satisfied, then he should be asking for a rematch after Pacquaio fights Diaz.I'm sure Pacquaio will fight him again.

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