What do you make of this girl????

[DAVIDTUA]

Sorry Davidtua .... I just couldn't resist !!

Forgive me?

LOL its cool buddy, it actually cheered me up a bit made me laugh lol.

[DAVIDTUA]

Mate, I can relate and if I was in your position it would be really hard to walk away, but from experience a head fukk is a heads fukk and if she is doing this now imagine what it would be like if you got into a relationship and you never knew where you stand etc - would be a nightmare. If it was me I would probably do everything in my power to bang her and see if she's worth the hassle - problem there is she may be fukk of the century and then you're even more screwed

Walk away mate

can you elaborate on how you can relate to me? did u have a similiar situation and please tell me u handled it wisely and have a much better ending than the one i feel im going to end up with!

I've had quite a few situations where woman have come on really strong and then gone all aloof and then as soon as I have back off and not shown much interested, the texts, phonecalls, pictures etc all start again. So I have got all emotionally involved again and sure enough she backs away again, starts waiting a whole day to reply to texts etc. It is just a viscious circle. If she wants to be with you she would not be playin any games, she would just go for it, it's a control thing, if you show no interest she will probably be all over you. I just think it's gonna end in hurt (yours) coz the mind games have started already and you aint even in a relationship yet.

so unfortunately buddy u havent had any successful endings? just hurtful/painfull ones from these similar situations?

[DAVIDTUA]

thanks for the response buddy. REP PTS coming your way!


ummm well she first came up to me at the yardhouse like SEVERAL months back and it like turned into an email/texting thing more than anything. its been so long that i forget about her even existing then she like textes me a pic of her like in a tube top or bikini(and she had gigantic hooters by the way LOL) and im all like DAMN now why you gotta go and do that love huh? and it gets me all excited and wanting her all over again.

i dont understand how she has confidence issues when shes the one who came up to me and basically asked me out? LOL. does her confidence go from sky high to so low that she just goes MIA for like 2-3months in between

i dont know buddy i think i could just say F it and not even bother, but those text pictures ARE KILLING ME! ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGH!

this situation is pretty simple.. first off how old are you? cause that plays a major role.. i'd say if the girl is over 21 then she's prob just juggling guys.. if a girl is attractive and isn't the type to be in a relationship and get attached then this is how they act.. If they see a guy who they think is attractive, then they approach them, and add them to the list.. whether it be something that makes her feel more self-esteem because guys are talking to her or what, it doesn't matter..

point is, you said it in your first post.. SHE approached YOU, which isn't something that happens normally in general.. so imagine how many guys she's approached in the past.. that's the key.. chances are she does this all the time..

throw her the bone and then forget about her.. who doesn't wanna sleep with a hot chick?

anyway.. you should post those tube top pictures, i think that would help us all decide what you should do

+5 rep points buddy thanks!
to answer ya question im now fuckin 30yrs old ARGGGGH! im so sick of playing these girl games, but again is she wasnt so SMOKIN then normally id say F it, F her. she obviously is atleast 21 because u have to be 21 to enter this place or atleast the bar section of the place at night and i think she was drinking that night?

some other things that make matters worse/more confusing. dude she was like not letting me go or even giving me the chance to even mingle. she grabbed my hand and held my hand the whole night and took me every where she walked LOL. WTF is up with that?

also i heard from various studs that girls like a guy who wears alot of accessories meaning its better to wear: hats, sunglasses, neclaces etc.

so that night i was wearing all of the above and she was like hey can i try your hat and sunglasses on? i was like sure so soon as she put them on i was like: WHOA damn you look sexy babe! the hat and glasses look sexy on you. she then got really defensive and said are u making fun of me? i was like WTF no u look really good? so i even took a pic of her from her digital camera just so she could see what she looked like in them. to calm her/ease her that i wasnt making fun of her?

the texting/flirting started that same very night for after the brewery we kept texting each other.

i was like hey where u at? u busy?

she was like no im not, why whats up?(this was like 4AM)

damn i think i F'd it from there i should of just tried to close the deal right then and there. instead i wanted to appear to be the nice swell gentleman type, more so cause i knew she might have still been hanging with the other hottie. (this point of time i didnt know which of the two i wanted to pursue for sure?)

[Dizaster]

Sounds like she could be intimidated,,, but every time you 2 have organised a date and she has not turned up, she's testing you and your probably failing... Sometimes they even do it subconsiously.. They want to meet you, but a small part of them comes up with some "reason" why they can't go. A part of it is to test how you'll react ie. will you get mad, sad, miss her, happy/carefree. She can test your interest in her in some warped way, and your manliness. What you'll stand for, and what you won't.

A couple of quick questions :
- What sort of dates are you making? Is it a big heavy 'dinner & movie' type deal, or something more relaxed..
- How have you reacted to her when speaking to her after she stood you up?
- How many times have you made dates with her and she's not turned up?

You've got to put the ball back in your court.. By this time she knows that she can get all the validation from you that she wants over the phone/e-mail etc, without really having to commit anything.. This is bad, as girls completely love validation and the less they have to do for it, the better. At the moment all she has to do is log onto her e-mail, and she gets all those great feelins of someone liking her, without having to commit to anything.
I'd also be willing to bet just about anything that she has 5 or 6 guys just like you that she's not giving much back to, and stringing along, but they are giving her a tonne of validation and making her feel great about herself.
Don't take it personally though, this is just what girls do. Especially hot girls.
The good thing is though, it wont take much for you to stand and out seperate you from the rest, and SHE'LL be wanting to chase you. Those other guys will become the distant chumps that she strings along, and you'll become the main man..

Give me a sec and i'll post back your plan to turn the relationship around.

[Spicoli]

Maybe your her "jumpoff" hook up.She has something working right now Buuuuut always good to have a back-up.....Not that your not All studly Tua but They have a way of walking us around by the crank at the first blush and we follow

[CutMeMick]

Tua,
My suggestion to you is FUCK her the second you get the chance then that way you won't give a shit about her the next day.

Problem solved.

[DAVIDTUA]

Sounds like she could be intimidated,,, but every time you 2 have organised a date and she has not turned up, she's testing you and your probably failing... Sometimes they even do it subconsiously.. They want to meet you, but a small part of them comes up with some "reason" why they can't go. A part of it is to test how you'll react ie. will you get mad, sad, miss her, happy/carefree. She can test your interest in her in some warped way, and your manliness. What you'll stand for, and what you won't.

A couple of quick questions :
- What sort of dates are you making? Is it a big heavy 'dinner & movie' type deal, or something more relaxed..
- How have you reacted to her when speaking to her after she stood you up?
- How many times have you made dates with her and she's not turned up?

You've got to put the ball back in your court.. By this time she knows that she can get all the validation from you that she wants over the phone/e-mail etc, without really having to commit anything.. This is bad, as girls completely love validation and the less they have to do for it, the better. At the moment all she has to do is log onto her e-mail, and she gets all those great feelins of someone liking her, without having to commit to anything.
I'd also be willing to bet just about anything that she has 5 or 6 guys just like you that she's not giving much back to, and stringing along, but they are giving her a tonne of validation and making her feel great about herself.
Don't take it personally though, this is just what girls do. Especially hot girls.
The good thing is though, it wont take much for you to stand and out seperate you from the rest, and SHE'LL be wanting to chase you. Those other guys will become the distant chumps that she strings along, and you'll become the main man..

Give me a sec and i'll post back your plan to turn the relationship around.

Dizaster! first off 5points from me to you bud! thanks for the wise words.

u know more and more i analyze it and i for some reason truly feel she really does chicken out? cuz why on earth would she still be talking to me, emailing me, texting me, etc etc if she didnt want me in some way?

DAMNIT women are IMPOSSIBLE to figure out LOL

to answer your questions:
A couple of quick questions :
- What sort of dates are you making? Is it a big heavy 'dinner & movie' type deal, or something more relaxed..

Answer: we pretty much both say we should hook up blah blah. it was anything from dinner, movies, the beach, san diego, vegas, baseball games, laker games. like for example just when she goes MIA, she'll text me a pic of her and her girlfriend from the laker game or angels game and saying u and i will be drinking beers right here for the next game sounds good to you babe?




- How have you reacted to her when speaking to her after she stood you up?

Well obviously i was pissed and let down cuz i wanna hook up with her in the worst way i mean shes SMOKIN lol i dont know how much more i can stress that LOL. i never really expressed it to her but like after the 2nd or 3rd time i kinda joked about it by saying: hey babe should I call up the channel 5 news to file a missing hot body report? haha. she then doesnt mention anything about MIA and acts like she didnt go MIA at all hahaha. i dont know many quite bizarre if u ask me? confusing as hell.

- How many times have you made dates with her and she's not turned up?
ummm well i do travel alot for work. i basically do sales and it entails me traveling alot for events/conferences etc. i tried to invite her on numerous accounts but she always says ill let u know bs. but actual hey im in town lets do this next weekend type of dates probably about 3 or 4 times at most like 5

AGAIN its weird cuz im not one of those dudes who like has no clue and like stalks chicks. i can def take a hint and shes never made it clear for me to back off or whatever and just when i think shes completely out she'll text me saying like hey babe we should do this or go here next time WTF LOL

[DAVIDTUA]

Maybe your her "jumpoff" hook up.She has something working right now Buuuuut always good to have a back-up.....Not that your not All studly Tua but They have a way of walking us around by the crank at the first blush and we follow

5 points buddy!

id love for her to be my jumpoff for LIFE LOL

[DAVIDTUA]

Tua,
My suggestion to you is FUCK her the second you get the chance then that way you won't give a shit about her the next day.

Problem solved.

LOL CUT!

if life were only that easy LOL

[Dizaster]

Hey dude, thanks for the reps!
Truely women are the greatest mystery on earth.. One thing i've found is that they don't even know what is going on with themselves, so we have absolutely NO chance..

I've got a really awesome E-book for you by a guy names Tynan... He lived in a house in Hollywood with a couple of the worlds greatest pickup artists for a year, and has a lot of great insights into how girls work and how to get the upper hand with them...
This particular e-book is more specifically dedicated to turning around relationships from you doing the work and chasing a girl, to her doing the work to chase you.
I think it's only about 20 or 30 pages long so you'll probably get it read in a night or two, and you'll be armed with lots of simple, subtle things that will make this girl feel more comfortable and attracted to you, and hopefully you two will hook up and " make a sexy time "..

Anyway, only want the best for ya man! Girls are tough tough tough, and we need all the advantages we can get when dealing with a hot woman..
It should only take a minute or 2 to download also, so give it a shot...

AND GOOD LUCK!!!

Tynan - AKA "Herbal" - Make Her Chase You (book)

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[Dizaster]

Tua,
My suggestion to you is FUCK her the second you get the chance then that way you won't give a shit about her the next day.

Problem solved.

Awesome!! Alternatively, go FUCK 5 other women and then, again, this one won't matter as much!

[Kev]

Hey dude, thanks for the reps!
Truely women are the greatest mystery on earth.. One thing i've found is that they don't even know what is going on with themselves, so we have absolutely NO chance..

I've got a really awesome E-book for you by a guy names Tynan... He lived in a house in Hollywood with a couple of the worlds greatest pickup artists for a year, and has a lot of great insights into how girls work and how to get the upper hand with them...
This particular e-book is more specifically dedicated to turning around relationships from you doing the work and chasing a girl, to her doing the work to chase you.
I think it's only about 20 or 30 pages long so you'll probably get it read in a night or two, and you'll be armed with lots of simple, subtle things that will make this girl feel more comfortable and attracted to you, and hopefully you two will hook up and " make a sexy time "..

Anyway, only want the best for ya man! Girls are tough tough tough, and we need all the advantages we can get when dealing with a hot woman..
It should only take a minute or 2 to download also, so give it a shot...

AND GOOD LUCK!!!

Tynan - AKA "Herbal" - Make Her Chase You (book)

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Another good find buddy. Herbal is the guy who took Katya away from Mystery isn't he so will be interesting to read his stuff.

Back to David Tua. I think to be honest mate I wouldn't be thinking about this girl at all anyway. I mean if you only met once I don't see why you'd get hung up over her at all whether she was smoking hot or not.

I think to be honest she has no interest in seeing you. She probably did like you in the club but now when you talk to her she's no longer in that same state so you have no interest to her.

I'm sure if another smoking hot girl came along now you'd forget about this other girl in an instant and that's probably what she's done to you. Don't sweat it though, it's really not a big deal.

If she does email or message you again I'd just act disinterested. I don't mean that as a way to try and attract her through reverse psychology though I mean literally just blow her off.

Why try and jump through hoops for a girl to make her attracted to you? You just lower your own value and self esteem. Adopt a more positive mindset, she messed you around and as a result she lost you. Put yourself in charge. Don't see yourself as someone who is chasing to try and get the girl.

Apart from her looks what has she done to earn your attraction anyway?

Start seeing yourself as the prize rather than the girl. Just give up on this one, honestly that will give you so much more power in the long run.

[DAVIDTUA]

Hey dude, thanks for the reps!
Truely women are the greatest mystery on earth.. One thing i've found is that they don't even know what is going on with themselves, so we have absolutely NO chance..

I've got a really awesome E-book for you by a guy names Tynan... He lived in a house in Hollywood with a couple of the worlds greatest pickup artists for a year, and has a lot of great insights into how girls work and how to get the upper hand with them...
This particular e-book is more specifically dedicated to turning around relationships from you doing the work and chasing a girl, to her doing the work to chase you.
I think it's only about 20 or 30 pages long so you'll probably get it read in a night or two, and you'll be armed with lots of simple, subtle things that will make this girl feel more comfortable and attracted to you, and hopefully you two will hook up and " make a sexy time "..

Anyway, only want the best for ya man! Girls are tough tough tough, and we need all the advantages we can get when dealing with a hot woman..
It should only take a minute or 2 to download also, so give it a shot...

AND GOOD LUCK!!!

Tynan - AKA "Herbal" - Make Her Chase You (book)

RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting

LOL thanks for ya response it was funny i love how u used the BORAT line: "SEXY TIME!" lol.

im rather ignorant to the DL an E book thing? how does that work? is it free? safe? virus wise i mea? id never dream of reading a how to pick up chicks book, but if its online and no one else knows it but me then maybe lol.

hey bud if u dont mind PMing me some highlights from it? that would be great. im sure u dont want to spill the secrets to the whole forum reading this right? lol

[DAVIDTUA]

Hey dude, thanks for the reps!
Truely women are the greatest mystery on earth.. One thing i've found is that they don't even know what is going on with themselves, so we have absolutely NO chance..

I've got a really awesome E-book for you by a guy names Tynan... He lived in a house in Hollywood with a couple of the worlds greatest pickup artists for a year, and has a lot of great insights into how girls work and how to get the upper hand with them...
This particular e-book is more specifically dedicated to turning around relationships from you doing the work and chasing a girl, to her doing the work to chase you.
I think it's only about 20 or 30 pages long so you'll probably get it read in a night or two, and you'll be armed with lots of simple, subtle things that will make this girl feel more comfortable and attracted to you, and hopefully you two will hook up and " make a sexy time "..

Anyway, only want the best for ya man! Girls are tough tough tough, and we need all the advantages we can get when dealing with a hot woman..
It should only take a minute or 2 to download also, so give it a shot...

AND GOOD LUCK!!!

Tynan - AKA "Herbal" - Make Her Chase You (book)

RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting

Another good find buddy. Herbal is the guy who took Katya away from Mystery isn't he so will be interesting to read his stuff.

Back to David Tua. I think to be honest mate I wouldn't be thinking about this girl at all anyway. I mean if you only met once I don't see why you'd get hung up over her at all whether she was smoking hot or not.

I think to be honest she has no interest in seeing you. She probably did like you in the club but now when you talk to her she's no longer in that same state so you have no interest to her.

I'm sure if another smoking hot girl came along now you'd forget about this other girl in an instant and that's probably what she's done to you. Don't sweat it though, it's really not a big deal.

If she does email or message you again I'd just act disinterested. I don't mean that as a way to try and attract her through reverse psychology though I mean literally just blow her off.

Why try and jump through hoops for a girl to make her attracted to you? You just lower your own value and self esteem. Adopt a more positive mindset, she messed you around and as a result she lost you. Put yourself in charge. Don't see yourself as someone who is chasing to try and get the girl.

Apart from her looks what has she done to earn your attraction anyway?

Start seeing yourself as the prize rather than the girl. Just give up on this one, honestly that will give you so much more power in the long run.

well normally id agree with you 100%, but i guess there just is something about this girl who just intrigues me or compells me?

yeah your right i reside in california for the most part besides when i travel for work, but california is known for having some of the hottest women in stateside id say generally speaking its a toss up between here and florida.

but some things i guess that really got me in addition to the smokin hot body is shes actually really intelligent, shes pre-med, she speaks well, writes well, shes deep, she knows real hip hop meaning like underground real east coast hip hop that most girls generally here in california never heard of. most girl in general dont even know what real hip hop is. they just know the crap thats played on the mainstream radios or mtv. so whenever i come across a girl who knows real hip they tend to look wack like a butch lesbian lol. also she doesnt wear name brands. that might not sound like such a big deal to others, but to me it is. for alot of the girls in california tend to be really materialistic and tend to wear ONLY high end designer name brand labels galore. she dresses really classy/sexy minus the $1,500 price tag. over all she seems one of a kind compared to the other girls out here who are generally all the same.

i admit i am completely infatuated with her body but she actually has more to offer as well intellectually. we have very meaningful/deep conversations/emails.

i dont know man i guess the thing that mind fucks me the most is i just cant logically explain wtf is going on? like in her mind lol. i guess i never will.

[DAVIDTUA]

for the record buds i still go out when i do have free time and hit the bars/clubs that scene does get old cause i am now 30 and as much as i wanna hit a hot prime 22yr old, mentally usually their mind is like not all ready yet to appreciate anything.

i do not want to sound like douche bag or concieted but i tend to do i guess slightly above average when it comes to just obtaining the digits, but when it comes to landing the first date/getting play/asss/whatever u want to call that part its always up in the air LOL.

i would rather just be straight forward and real versus playing the whole im going to act like i dont care or not interested in you BS t get them to think about me? i dont know maybe if i was like 23 24, but im freakin 30 LOL.