How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

[DaxxKahn]

I dont get how people say Mosely is still a great fighter, but Delahoya is discreditied... Mosely is older and has more miles on him but people say Mosely is great and Delahoya is not I think they are both great personally

Anyone who says DLH is not a great fighter is just plain out a hater...I am not a DLH fan but you can not deny the man his accomplishments,,,,I don't care how many big fights he has lost....He has also won just as many big fights....Hell show me anyone else active who has been in as many big fights win or lose?...There isn't anyone...Hopkins, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Jones or anyone else out there.....

With that being said IMO Shane is a better fighter then Oscar ever was at any point in their careers if you matched them up Mosley comes out ahead....Both are on the decline and should call it a day with in two or so fights before the losses start effecting their legecy....

I should have been clearer, I mean as of today skill for skill

Right now they are both in same league...Neither is elite....Both have enough to give any elite fighter a hard time and maybe win if the night is right but it is obvious neither is the fighter they once were...if that makes any sense

[zhubin]

Are Shane and Oscar the same fighters they were 5-10 years ago...of course not. But that being said...i had the Shane vs. Cotto fight a draw. So despite the fact that he no longer has the great speed of his youth...the fact that he nearly beat a younger champ at this point of his career, is a testament to his great heart and ability. I don't see Shane being a dominant force anymore...but going by his last fight against Cotto...i don't see how anyone can say he no longer can compete in big fights. Is it smart for fighters to keep fighting past their prime...probably not. But i don't see Shane embarrassing himself in the near future.

[JT Rock]

Anyone who says DLH is not a great fighter is just plain out a hater...I am not a DLH fan but you can not deny the man his accomplishments,,,,I don't care how many big fights he has lost....He has also won just as many big fights....Hell show me anyone else active who has been in as many big fights win or lose?...There isn't anyone...Hopkins, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Jones or anyone else out there.....

With that being said IMO Shane is a better fighter then Oscar ever was at any point in their careers if you matched them up Mosley comes out ahead....Both are on the decline and should call it a day with in two or so fights before the losses start effecting their legecy....

I should have been clearer, I mean as of today skill for skill

Right now they are both in same league...Neither is elite....Both have enough to give any elite fighter a hard time and maybe win if the night is right but it is obvious neither is the fighter they once were...if that makes any sense

My point exactly... Though the Cottodonians, think him beating Mosely was monumental, but Mayweather beats Delahoya and he gets credit for beating an old man

[Mr140]

Well its like this PBF is the top guy so when he does somthing it is ripped apart and him not competing with the top welters is not helping him. But things willl change he will face Cotto and we while know whos the best.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors

[JT Rock]

Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors

The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors

The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

An Cotto's jab sucks

[JT Rock]

Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors

The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

An Cotto's jab sucks

if you are comparing Cotto's jab to Quartey's, your friggin crazy and need to watch some Quartey fights

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

An Cotto's jab sucks

if you are comparing Cotto's jab to Quartey's, your friggin crazy and need to watch some Quartey fights

Actually I do. I've only seen 3 or 4 from his prime...

[OumaFan]

Quartey had the better jab but Cotto's is nice, not to be underestimated at all. That and Ike was always a bit open for left hooks. I'd go with Cotto there. The others are tough ones. I think he could beat Lopez but he'd probably have to get off the mat and if anybody was getting stopped its probably Cotto.

[DaxxKahn]

The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

An Cotto's jab sucks

if you are comparing Cotto's jab to Quartey's, your friggin crazy and need to watch some Quartey fights

Quartey had a hell of a jab...Hard and accurate....The Cotto of right now against a prime Quartey of 97-98 would lose

[ICB]

Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors

The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

It was a close fight but the rounds wern't really that hard to score IMO, Quartey busted ODLH up with the jab but i will give credit to ODLH. He come out for the 12th knowing he needed to do something dramatic and he did. Even though i thought Quartey won i had no problem with ODLH winning that fight based on his last round effort. Although the scoring was way off, if i remember right one judge had it so wide for ODLH that he didn't even need to score a KD in the last round that was a disgrace IMO. I think its pretty much impossible to have ODLH ahead in that right after 11 rounds without seriously biased scoring.

[Master]

I think Cotto could beat Ike and Lopez, they were good fighters but not great like the others.

[ICB]

I think Cotto could beat Ike and Lopez, they were good fighters but not great like the others.

They didn't achieve greatness but they were still both very good fighters, Quartey had an amazing jab and excellent power. And Lopez was an excellent brawler with an iron chin. I don't believe Lopez ever tasted the canvas, right now i can see both of them beating Cotto clearly IMO.

[DaxxKahn]

I should have been clearer, I mean as of today skill for skill

Right now they are both in same league...Neither is elite....Both have enough to give any elite fighter a hard time and maybe win if the night is right but it is obvious neither is the fighter they once were...if that makes any sense

My point exactly... Though the Cottodonians, think him beating Mosely was monumental, but Mayweather beats Delahoya and he gets credit for beating an old man

Truth is at this stage Cotto had a bit harder time with Mosley then he should have....Was it a really good night for Shane or bad night for Cotto?...Not sure and would not make judgement until I see both fight again....It was obvious that the Shane of 3 or 4 years ago would have made an easy night of Cotto....Not dis-crediting Cotto because I like him as a fighter....I even said that it is unfair to judge him against elite of the 90's because he has not peaked yet...and in truth DLH, Mosley, Pernell are all on the top 50 ATG list P4P....Not really being fair to Cotto