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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

    Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
    ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
    Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
    Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
    Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
    Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

    Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors
    The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

    Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
    ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
    Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
    Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
    Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
    Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

    Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors
    The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

    An Cotto's jab sucks
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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

    Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
    ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
    Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
    Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
    Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
    Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

    Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors
    The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

    An Cotto's jab sucks
    if you are comparing Cotto's jab to Quartey's, your friggin crazy and need to watch some Quartey fights

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

    An Cotto's jab sucks
    if you are comparing Cotto's jab to Quartey's, your friggin crazy and need to watch some Quartey fights

    Actually I do. I've only seen 3 or 4 from his prime...
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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    I wouldn't say Cotto could beat any of those guys as yet BUT,SSM has always had problems with a jab. Vernon showed it. Winky showed it and Cotto showed it. He would have had much faster handspeed sure,but I think Cotto would still land that jab.Not saying he would win but the jab would cause problems to SSM and to Oscar.Neither has ever been great at handling jabs.

    I agree with Ouma,he COULD beat Lopez but more likely would end up getting stopped himself. I think it's a tad too early to put Cotto in with those monsters. I'd like to add that the Tito KO and the Pernell UD are DEAD CERTS and Pernell beats everyone on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    I wouldn't say Cotto could beat any of those guys as yet BUT,SSM has always had problems with a jab. Vernon showed it. Winky showed it and Cotto showed it. He would have had much faster handspeed sure,but I think Cotto would still land that jab.Not saying he would win but the jab would cause problems to SSM and to Oscar.Neither has ever been great at handling jabs.

    I agree with Ouma,he COULD beat Lopez but more likely would end up getting stopped himself. I think it's a tad too early to put Cotto in with those monsters. I'd like to add that the Tito KO and the Pernell UD are DEAD CERTS and Pernell beats everyone on that list.
    I agree with pretty much everything you said good posting, but even though Mosley has had trouble with jabs in the past. I still think the 2000 version would beat Cotto at the moment, as for Lopez that man was a damn animal with one of the best chins i've ever seen, really can't see Cotto beating iron chinned Lopez in a toe to toe battle. As for Pernell i totally agree mate Whitaker is one of my all time favorites.

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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    He'll be competitive. But his chance of succeeding is 50/50,... which means all his fight with them 90's elites would be blockbusters.

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    Nice stuff ICB. I think Cotto still has some improvement ahead and would be in pretty thick with these here.He would wise to start off with a Oba Carr or Rivera type.
    Delahoya vs. Cotto.Honestly I think a prime welter Oscar would be a nightmare For Cotto with speed and versatility.Cotto at this point ,just could not keep up imo.
    Whitaker Vs. Cotto . If Judah can hit Cotto from alot of angels early Whitaker could co it all night long.....without standing there afterward to be hit.
    Quartey Vs. Cotto. Man,If Quartey would have just been more active in career.He was a master in the shot gun jab dept.Solid power even though he looked to have an odd "openness" on his punches.Could be an offensive machine.Was willing to mix it up but could be clipped as well.I like Cottos recoup power and bodywork but Ike would just be too much Imo and probably stop him late.
    Lopez vs. Cotto.simply put this would be insane!!Lopez's worst enemy was Himself at times,could really be unmotivated but when he was focused and in shape he was a Beast.He had a solid run when he broke out,Top notch body puncher and a head made of granite.Bricks in his gloves as well.Cottos best/real shot would to box Lopez.It would be very tough but I would pick cotto by a close Decision after some scary moments ??
    Trinidad vs. Cotto. Trinidad by decapitation.Yeh Trinidad got dropped alot but would get up almost smiling.I could just see that speed and left hook power bouncing off of cotto's temple,hurting him bad.

    Hey,The fact the questions are asked says alot Of Cotto,I think he will Improve alot and could stick around a spell.Im a convert.

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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    Quartey had the better jab but Cotto's is nice, not to be underestimated at all. That and Ike was always a bit open for left hooks. I'd go with Cotto there. The others are tough ones. I think he could beat Lopez but he'd probably have to get off the mat and if anybody was getting stopped its probably Cotto.

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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto

    An Cotto's jab sucks
    if you are comparing Cotto's jab to Quartey's, your friggin crazy and need to watch some Quartey fights


    Quartey had a hell of a jab...Hard and accurate....The Cotto of right now against a prime Quartey of 97-98 would lose
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    Sorry but to compare Cotto's jab to Quartey's jab is just plain silly. Quartey had one of the best jabs of all time, the snap and speed of the punch was a thing of beauty. And the sound of it was menacing similar to Larry Holmes jab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Sorry but to compare Cotto's jab to Quartey's jab is just plain silly. Quartey had one of the best jabs of all time, the snap and speed of the punch was a thing of beauty. And the sound of it was menacing similar to Larry Holmes jab.
    Ok, then I stand corrected... I'll have to bone up... Like I said, I've never been that into him so I guess I'm thinking of an older Quartey

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Sorry but to compare Cotto's jab to Quartey's jab is just plain silly. Quartey had one of the best jabs of all time, the snap and speed of the punch was a thing of beauty. And the sound of it was menacing similar to Larry Holmes jab.
    Ok, then I stand corrected... I'll have to bone up... Like I said, I've never been that into him so I guess I'm thinking of an older Quartey

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Sorry ICB... Everyone knows I'm not a big Cotto fan but here goes!

    Younger Shane Mosley vs Miguel Cotto = Mosley still doesn't use his jab enough... Cotto the same way
    ODLH vs Miguel Cotto = ODLH by UD
    Jose Luis Lopez vs Miguel Cotto = Lopez by TKO
    Ike Quartey vs Miguel Cotto = Ike was good but... C'mon. Don't see it
    Pernell Whitaker vs Miguel Cotto = Whitaker by UD
    Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto = Tito by KO

    Sorry. Just needed to fix some errors
    The record shows that Delahoya beat Quartey but everybody and there motherknows Ike got the bone that night, Ike was Awesome and his Jab is great and had the heart and skill to beat Cotto
    It was a close fight but the rounds wern't really that hard to score IMO, Quartey busted ODLH up with the jab but i will give credit to ODLH. He come out for the 12th knowing he needed to do something dramatic and he did. Even though i thought Quartey won i had no problem with ODLH winning that fight based on his last round effort. Although the scoring was way off, if i remember right one judge had it so wide for ODLH that he didn't even need to score a KD in the last round that was a disgrace IMO. I think its pretty much impossible to have ODLH ahead in that right after 11 rounds without seriously biased scoring.

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    Default Re: How Would Miguel Cotto Have Done Against Elite 90's Welterweights ??

    I think Cotto could beat Ike and Lopez, they were good fighters but not great like the others.

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