I'd like the Calzaghe victory to be the final chapter.

[Gandalf]

First off he did not out land Hopkins by almost 100 punches that is inaccurate stat, and secondly didn't Pavlik out land Taylor by almost 100 punches according to "Punchstats" in there 2nd fight ?? yet many people had Taylor winning that fight so are they all delusional as well ?? but the difference is here that Hopkins also scored a knock down which made the fight even closer.

You saw only the fight you wanted to see and little will persuade you otherwise. Pavlik beat Taylor by my reckoning so I dont know what thats all about either. The Hopkins knockdown was 1 point extra and doesnt play a deciding role for me.

Do you remember Barrera: Marquez? I had issues with that scoring and so did you. Part of that was because Barrera was actually punch for punch with Marquez. I thought Barrera controlled more rounds than Marquez. Didnt Marquez land the harder shots there though? By this latest reckoning you should have scored that fight to Marquez.

At least try and be consistent with how you score a fight.

Firstly why are you comparing Marquez vs Barrera to Hopkins vs Calzaghe ?? there two totally different fights. Marquez landed more power punches according to punch stats but thats only because he had two one sided rounds especially the 7th so again its misleading stat, Barrera landed the harder shots IMO, did you see Marquez's face ?? he looked like he had been smashed into brick wall.

You keep saying first or firstly and never actually follow up with a second or secondly.

Regardless, I bring it up because the way you argue is flawed and lacks consistency. Barrera was the controller of many of those rounds just as Calzaghe was against Hopkins. Barrera's big punch was essentially the jab against Marquez. It doesnt matter who landed the harder shots, at the end of the day. Barrera's harder shots were not even counted.

That was a fight that was close. This wasnt really that close. Is it really about "who has the most busted up face"? No it isnt. Not by a long shot.

[ICB]

You saw only the fight you wanted to see and little will persuade you otherwise. Pavlik beat Taylor by my reckoning so I dont know what thats all about either. The Hopkins knockdown was 1 point extra and doesnt play a deciding role for me.

Do you remember Barrera: Marquez? I had issues with that scoring and so did you. Part of that was because Barrera was actually punch for punch with Marquez. I thought Barrera controlled more rounds than Marquez. Didnt Marquez land the harder shots there though? By this latest reckoning you should have scored that fight to Marquez.

At least try and be consistent with how you score a fight.

Firstly why are you comparing Marquez vs Barrera to Hopkins vs Calzaghe ?? there two totally different fights. Marquez landed more power punches according to punch stats but thats only because he had two one sided rounds especially the 7th so again its misleading stat, Barrera landed the harder shots IMO, did you see Marquez's face ?? he looked like he had been smashed into brick wall.

You keep saying first or firstly and never actually follow up with a second or secondly.

Regardless, I bring it up because the way you argue is flawed and lacks consistency. Barrera was the controller of many of those rounds just as Calzaghe was against Hopkins. Barrera's big punch was essentially the jab against Marquez. It doesnt matter who landed the harder shots, at the end of the day. Barrera's harder shots were not even counted.

That was a fight that was close. This wasnt really that close. Is it really about "who has the most busted up face"? No it isnt. Not by a long shot.

See i hate when people try and pick apart my posting i think you need to look at yourself Miles, your comparing Barrera vs Marquez to Hopkins vs Calzaghe, and there not even comparable one little bit, first off it was not only that Marquez's face was busted up you could see Barrera was landing the slightly more hurtful shots. Secondly Hopkins vs Calzaghe is not even comparable Calzaghe was landing nowhere near with the some ferocity or power of Marquez or Barrera, Hopkins clearly landed the more hurtful shots and like i said if a boxer lands 10 power shots in a round and the other boxer lands 25 non effective punches then i'll score it for the guy who landed 10 power shots, just because i scored Marquez vs Barrera a draw and it was hard to score, doesn't mean i can't have Hopkins winning thats silly logic because every fight is different.