Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
OK,

I left for Mexico the morning after the fight, and I haven't had chance to comment on the result. I also like to watch a fight more than once before I start a thread. Yesterday I rewatched the fight closely with the sound off and scored it. I was drinking when I watched it the first time, and I came away thinking that Joe won clearly. I remember thinking the Lederman card was pretty good. With the sober second watching, I came to different conclusion - Joe won - barely - and there were enough swing rounds that I can see why Hopkins fans are pissed. I like Joe, but I'm not his biggest fan, and I appreciate Hopkins. In fact, I really paid attention to some of the inside fighting that is easy to miss drunk and easy to miss if you aren't a strong judge. Enough talking.

Here's my card. I'm noting all the rounds that I consider swing rounds.

H - C

1 10 8
2 10 9 (swing)
3 10 9
4 9 10 (swing)
5 10 9 (swing)
6 9 10 (swing)
7 10 9 (swing)
8 9 10
9 9 10
10 9 10 (swing)
11 9 10
12 9 10 (swing)

Hopkins 113 Calzaghe 114

Swing rounds won - Hopkins 3, Calzaghe 4.

That's a damn close fight. I think Hopkins gets penalized for fighting ugly and holding. I also think that other than the first rounds, even though Hopkins land more of the really meaningful punches, they didn't have much effect on Calzaghe. If Hopkins punchers were as effective as he claims, Calzaghe should have been getting weaker as the time went on and showing effects of the blows. Still, close, close fight. Calz got SD and that's about what he deserved, but he's didn't lose or get stuck with a draw.
Sober or not. My opinion of you don't change. You still a fukking idiot. Hopkins won the fight 115-112.
Didn't know you had a bad opinion of me. Don't forget, this isn't fanboy SEANIE. It's just funny to see, a normally intelligent and humorously abrasive poster turns into such a nuthugging fanboy when your man loses.

And considering how close fukkin 7 of the rounds were, seeing the fight 7-5 Cal instead of 7-5 Hopkins isn't such a big difference to call someone an idiot. You're being a nuthugging douche. If you admit it was only 115-112 Hopkins, that's all the evidence we need that it was probably a win for Calzaghe. I'll take your opinion seriously to you when you're talking about fighters who you don't want to blow.