could Calzaghe end up higher than RJJ in the all time p4P list

[Violent Demise]

why?

Cuz

[Bookkeeper]

why?

Cuz

Can anyone tell me why VD does not like Joe

[amat]

No because P4P, Roy was at the top for years. Calzaghe never was. P4P draws a lot more from talent too, usually the guy at number 1 is regarded as the most talented fighter in the game. That's not the case with Calzaghe.

[SweetPea]

To answer the thread question...... No.

Roy Jones spent the better part of a decade as the best fighter in the world PFP. Calzaghe has most certainly not done that.

[Deanrw]

You have to sit back and look at it all in context. Much of what Joe did up until 2006 is really a wash. He stayed in a weak division and fough mostly fringe opponents. It is a shame because he was then a better fighter than he is now. He could have made some real waves if he moved to 175 earlier.

Right now he will have a tough time beating the fighters you mention. It is not impossible though and if he does, people will look back on him favorably. Jones in his prime had that superman aura about him and it will be practically impossible to overcome.

[Althugz]

You have to sit back and look at it all in context. Much of what Joe did up until 2006 is really a wash. He stayed in a weak division and fough mostly fringe opponents. It is a shame because he was then a better fighter than he is now. He could have made some real waves if he moved to 175 earlier.
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WHY ? Pavlik is the world middleweight champ , why on earth would he want to move up to SM which is a joke division anyway , or LHW ? Calzaghe is unbeaten but is now trying to cement his status , which in my opinion he should have thought of 6 years ago.

And that, my friends, has been my problem with Joe Calzaghe all along. Good posting

[porkypara]

I think the only fight out there that will boost Calzaghe's legacey is Pavlick.


As for who ranks higher in terms of all time standing I wold say Jones even if he avoided certain fighters in his prime.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think the only fight out there that will boost Calzaghe's legacey is Pavlick.


As for who ranks higher in terms of all time standing I wold say Jones even if he avoided certain fighters in his prime.

WHY ? Pavlik is the world middleweight champ , why on earth would he want to move up to SM which is a joke division anyway , or LHW ? Calzaghe is unbeaten but is now trying to cement his status , which in my opinion he should have thought of 6 years ago.

[porkypara]

I think the only fight out there that will boost Calzaghe's legacey is Pavlick.


As for who ranks higher in terms of all time standing I wold say Jones even if he avoided certain fighters in his prime.

WHY ? Pavlik is the world middleweight champ , why on earth would he want to move up to SM which is a joke division anyway , or LHW ? Calzaghe is unbeaten but is now trying to cement his status , which in my opinion he should have thought of 6 years ago.

I agree with you that Calzaghe should have been the star that he is now 6 years ago but that did not happen for many different reasons.

From Pavlik's point of view a fight with Calzaghe would shoot him straight into the top 4 or 5 P4P and earn him loads of $$$$.

As for Calzaghe he is the only good young fighter in his prime around the same weight.

[Chino]

Sure, I was rooting for Calzaghe when he faced Hopkins and I agreed on the decision but somehow he didn't impress me. I didn't see a spark in his punches. Many seemed like slaps. To consider him an all great P4P it’s a bit too far in my opinion. I guess I'll have to go back and see past fights just in case "it was not his night" against Hopkins even though he won.

[HattonTheHammer]

Sure, I was rooting for Calzaghe when he faced Hopkins and I agreed on the decision but somehow he didn't impress me. I didn't see a spark in his punches. Many seemed like slaps. To consider him an all great P4P it’s a bit too far in my opinion. I guess I'll have to go back and see past fights just in case "it was not his night" against Hopkins even though he won.

the guy is 45-0 you cannot argue with stats.

I completely understand peoples right to say that RJJ is still ahead in the all time great rankings.

But to suggest that calzaghe shouldnt even be on that list is a joke, joe has dominated an entire division for a decade now, moved up a weight category to fight one of the all time greats, not fought that well as we know joe can fight yet still won.

I hope to god RJJ doesnt fight calzaghe, the man is way past his prime and JC is probably just as dominant as he has ever been and would probably end up completely outscoring jones.

I wanna remember the RJJ of yesteryear that gave us fight fans so many happy memorys, not a shadow of his former self getting beat up for a few extra bucks!!

[ono]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jones actually beat Calzaghe now.

In answer to the thread.....

maybe if he beats Dawson, Pavlik, Tarver and Roy.

But he won't fight another 4 times, so no.