I conceed.

[El Kabong]

No Al Gore, no John Kerry, and no George W. Bush.....what's not to like about these candidates


The President doesn't control the economy...if that was true how did W get us this far when he couldn't even run the Texas Rangers

McCain is for ending the war he's just for ending it a different way than Obama and Hillary and that would be the way which ties up loose ends and keeps us from having to go back in 5 years.

Boozeboxer, playing to the base of the party is a part of politics. McCain had to "kiss the ring" after he had the balls to propose a solution to the illegal immigration problem. If McCain gathers support from the far right then it's going to be a fucking LANDSLIDE the likes of which we haven't seen since the days of Reagan-Mondale.

We need a guy who honestly wants us united and I think that is McCain. The Democrats try to discredit him but he's different from W he's more open minded, smarter, he's a true leader, and he's tough as nails. Democrats HAVE to respect him for what he's done for this country....everything Obama has said in the past about change and hope and all this Che Guavera/Karl Marx bullcrap (which is exactly what it is) is summed up in his assessment of the blue collar people as "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion"....Obama is not what we need he's a guy who can and will put down this nation to make himself more popular and that is the difference between Democrats and Republicans, you'll never catch a Republican telling anyone that America OR Americans suck.

John McCain is a man who will humble himself to lift up America and tout it's greatness.

[RozzySean]

No Al Gore, no John Kerry, and no George W. Bush.....what's not to like about these candidates


The President doesn't control the economy...if that was true how did W get us this far when he couldn't even run the Texas Rangers

McCain is for ending the war he's just for ending it a different way than Obama and Hillary and that would be the way which ties up loose ends and keeps us from having to go back in 5 years.

Boozeboxer, playing to the base of the party is a part of politics. McCain had to "kiss the ring" after he had the balls to propose a solution to the illegal immigration problem. If McCain gathers support from the far right then it's going to be a fucking LANDSLIDE the likes of which we haven't seen since the days of Reagan-Mondale.

We need a guy who honestly wants us united and I think that is McCain. The Democrats try to discredit him but he's different from W he's more open minded, smarter, he's a true leader, and he's tough as nails. Democrats HAVE to respect him for what he's done for this country....everything Obama has said in the past about change and hope and all this Che Guavera/Karl Marx bullcrap (which is exactly what it is) is summed up in his assessment of the blue collar people as "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion"....Obama is not what we need he's a guy who can and will put down this nation to make himself more popular and that is the difference between Democrats and Republicans, you'll never catch a Republican telling anyone that America OR Americans suck.

John McCain is a man who will humble himself to lift up America and tout it's greatness.

I don't think the landslide will be that bad, but it will be decisive if Obama is the nominee. Obama can win states in the Northeast, the west coast, and Minnasota, but he'll get killed in the south and rust belt.

[El Kabong]

Obama would be more devisive than George W. Bush.....people won't think it's possible but he'd really piss people off with his policies. With Obama's policies you wouldn't be in control of your own life...the government would want a say in everything due to Obama wanting "economic fairness"...so if I want to work hard and make big money then I'm going to get hated on for succeeding and taxed to hell and back and so I stop working hard, get welfare, and then everyone becomes a lazy government controlled government dependent robot


As for all these democrats berating "Big Oil" for their landfall profits....well if "Big Oil" is making big money then wouldn't you think that the entity that taxes such organizations would also be raking in money hand over fist


So this talk about taxing them more just goes to show you how greedy and stupid the Democrats are. "We want to punish people who make lots of money"....the truth is if they tax "big oil" then we as consumers feel it more! Now say they said "We're going to ease the tax burden on oil companies so that prices come down" then the government would be doing everyone a solid and everyone would be happy OR say the Democrats get off their high horse and let us drill in our own back yard so we don't have to deal as much with the Saudi's and the Middle Eastern people and then next time they fuck up we can just say "Screw you guys, we're going home".

[bcollins]

Lyle, I appreciate your enthusiasm and patriotism, but everytime I read your political posts I want to punch myself in the throat.

Are you on the Republican payroll? Otherwise, how can you buy into the propaganda so completely? It's clearly obvious that neither major party has the best interests of the nation in mind - the goal of our modern government is to provide blanket security for the demon CORPORATION.

Plato had it right - unfortunately, there are no philosopher-kings in the election this year.

I vote none of the above.

[OumaFan]

McCain would be a nightmare, not as if our economy isn't bad enough, put him in charge, that sounds like a good idea. Might as well put me in charge or Lyle. Maybe not Lyle.

Obama's actually more popular among independents than Hillary. That, the economy (and McCain's complete lack of any real economic credibility), and the fact that Democrats are much more energized as far as turnout goes than Republicans, I'd be surprised if McCain won. Hopefully not, this country is in too bad a shape for another Republican to win.

I'll say this though, those "Democrats" that are supporting Hillary and say they won't vote for Obama are a fucking embarrassment. Fuck off, should all be shot. Maybe not shot (that's a bit excessive) but they disgust me. Obama and Hillary don't even have many real policy differences, because you have a PERSONALITY problem with Obama you're going to put another train wreck of a Republican in to office. Good that you care so much about the future of the country.

I'm sure most of them will change their mind by the time of the election but its still ridiculous.

[RozzySean]

McCain would be a nightmare, not as if our economy isn't bad enough, put him in charge, that sounds like a good idea. Might as well put me in charge or Lyle. Maybe not Lyle.

Obama's actually more popular among independents than Hillary. That, the economy (and McCain's complete lack of any real economic credibility), and the fact that Democrats are much more energized as far as turnout goes than Republicans, I'd be surprised if McCain won. Hopefully not, this country is in too bad a shape for another Republican to win.

I'll say this though, those "Democrats" that are supporting Hillary and say they won't vote for Obama are a fucking embarrassment. Fuck off, should all be shot. Maybe not shot (that's a bit excessive) but they disgust me. Obama and Hillary don't even have many real policy differences, because you have a PERSONALITY problem with Obama you're going to put another train wreck of a Republican in to office. Good that you care so much about the future of the country.

I'm sure most of them will change their mind by the time of the election but its still ridiculous.

I won't take too much offense to that, Oumafan, because I'm a independent. You are right that when it comes to the ideology and the theory of there policy, Obama and Hillary aren't much different. Personality-wise, I prefer Obama, and for a while, I was enthusiastic about him, but being president is not just about your policies. It's also about your management skill, your understanding of world politics, and your experience dealing with the legislature. It's about gravitas. There are substantive differences between Hillary and Obama.

Lyle drinks the Republican Kool-Aide, but he is right that McCain would make a decent president. Even Hillary acknowledges that. In fact, McCain acknowledges that Hillary would be a good president. I've seen both of them asked the question directly, and although they have differences in believe and policy, each believes the other is a qualified candidate.

However, Lyle, I think you are dead ass wrong that Obama would be more divisive than Bush. I don't think it's possible to be more divisive than Bush and at least Obama would TRY to build bridges with the other side. And Democrats aren't any more greedy than Republicans. Just like Republicans, they are severely misguided about some things.

[El Kabong]

I'm a registered Independent myself.... so you are wrong in assuming I "drink the Republican Kool-Aide" I'm not even a registered Republican.

I know John McCain because I wanted him to win in 2000, I've followed his career for quite some time now and I know that he above everyone else in politics as a whole works with people regardless of their political party and he is solution oriented he wants to ACCOMPLISH something.


I suppose Hillary and Obama know EVERYTHING about economics ....McCain is honest and he's telling America the same thing he told those people in Michigan "You've lost your jobs, they aren't going to come back, we have to create new jobs and you have to prepare yourselves to do them".

Meanwhile Hillary and Obama have kissed so many asses their lips are chapped.


PRESIDENTS DON'T HANDLE THE ECONOMY......ADVISORS HANDLE THE ECONOMY.

Some Presidents get lucky and some Presidents have to scratch and claw their way to break even, them's the breaks buddy. Sure they can affect the market a little bit but hell so can companies like Enron or Google....the President has no control over those things so give it a rest about the economy...McCain was at least man enough to admit his shortcomings whereas Obama has no flaws

If it wasn't for North Carolina Barack would have withered away into the background worse than Howard Dean in 2000. Barack is a face, he's a speaker, he's not a leader, he is an empty vessle in which liberals pour their hopes and dreams most of which I might add are slightly to overtly socialist.

[amat]

If it wasn't for North Carolina Barack would have withered away into the background worse than Howard Dean in 2000. Barack is a face, he's a speaker, he's not a leader, he is an empty vessle in which liberals pour their hopes and dreams most of which I might add are slightly to overtly socialist.

You can't be serious? If it wasn't for North Carolina? Is that a joke? Lyle what are you talking about here? Obama had a sizable lead entering North Carolina and North Carolina just kind of put the last nail in the coffin of Hillary. Obama could have sat on a beach chair after that long string of consecutive wins he had and sipped on a lemonade and still won the nomination. North Carolina was good to him but he did not need it, Hillary's fate has been sealed for a while.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm a registered Independent myself.... so you are wrong in assuming I "drink the Republican Kool-Aide" I'm not even a registered Republican.

I know John McCain because I wanted him to win in 2000, I've followed his career for quite some time now and I know that he above everyone else in politics as a whole works with people regardless of their political party and he is solution oriented he wants to ACCOMPLISH something.


I suppose Hillary and Obama know EVERYTHING about economics ....McCain is honest and he's telling America the same thing he told those people in Michigan "You've lost your jobs, they aren't going to come back, we have to create new jobs and you have to prepare yourselves to do them".

Meanwhile Hillary and Obama have kissed so many asses their lips are chapped.


PRESIDENTS DON'T HANDLE THE ECONOMY......ADVISORS HANDLE THE ECONOMY.

Some Presidents get lucky and some Presidents have to scratch and claw their way to break even, them's the breaks buddy. Sure they can affect the market a little bit but hell so can companies like Enron or Google....the President has no control over those things so give it a rest about the economy...McCain was at least man enough to admit his shortcomings whereas Obama has no flaws

If it wasn't for North Carolina Barack would have withered away into the background worse than Howard Dean in 2000. Barack is a face, he's a speaker, he's not a leader, he is an empty vessle in which liberals pour their hopes and dreams most of which I might add are slightly to overtly socialist.

Presidents do handle economic policy, like George Bush did getting his disastrous tax cut policies made into law.

Bush's Council of Economic Advisors is down to one economic advisor, no reputable economist wanting to be associated with the trainwreck that is Bush economic policy.

Would you be happy that instead of taxing oil companies the US government just took away the $70-100 billion corporate welfare handouts the oil industry gets from the government every year?

[RozzySean]

I'm a registered Independent myself.... so you are wrong in assuming I "drink the Republican Kool-Aide" I'm not even a registered Republican.

I know John McCain because I wanted him to win in 2000, I've followed his career for quite some time now and I know that he above everyone else in politics as a whole works with people regardless of their political party and he is solution oriented he wants to ACCOMPLISH something.


I suppose Hillary and Obama know EVERYTHING about economics ....McCain is honest and he's telling America the same thing he told those people in Michigan "You've lost your jobs, they aren't going to come back, we have to create new jobs and you have to prepare yourselves to do them".

Meanwhile Hillary and Obama have kissed so many asses their lips are chapped.


PRESIDENTS DON'T HANDLE THE ECONOMY......ADVISORS HANDLE THE ECONOMY.

Some Presidents get lucky and some Presidents have to scratch and claw their way to break even, them's the breaks buddy. Sure they can affect the market a little bit but hell so can companies like Enron or Google....the President has no control over those things so give it a rest about the economy...McCain was at least man enough to admit his shortcomings whereas Obama has no flaws

If it wasn't for North Carolina Barack would have withered away into the background worse than Howard Dean in 2000. Barack is a face, he's a speaker, he's not a leader, he is an empty vessle in which liberals pour their hopes and dreams most of which I might add are slightly to overtly socialist.

For a non-Republican you sure do a good impersonation of one Are there any Democrats you like? I'm just curious when you last voted for one of them. Believe it or not, I voted for Romney for governor and I think he did a pretty good job, before he started worrying more about trying to become President than running the state and puckering up the religious right.

Listen, I told you already, I like McCain. I was praying for him to run against Bush as an independent in 2004. I'm not sure there has every been a candidate with whom I agreed on everything or voted for with some concerns over an issue or two. Like you said yourself, McCain had to kiss the ring and play to the base of the party. The base of the Republican party scares just as much, if not more, than the base of the Democrat party. Yes, advisers handle the economy, but presidents choose the advisers and at the end of the day, they make final decisions.

Yeah companies can effect the economy as much as presidents, but the President can choose how much or how little to regulate. Republican EXECUTIVE refusal to properly monitor certain industries has played a direct role in Enron, the sub-prime crisis, and back in the day, the S & L bailout. I'm more comfortable with a President who understands that corporations need policing just like everybody else. I hope Mr. McCain agrees, but most of his party certainly doesn't.

But that's secondary. I believe in personal freedom and the Constitution. I believe in a woman's right to choose, I believe in the separation of church and state. I believe corporate monopolies are dangerous and unconstitutional. I believe in habeas corpus, justification for search warrants, the right to view internet porn, and the release of non-violent drug offenders so we can stop wasting money and keep real criminals in jail without spending more of my tax dollars on prisons. I also agree with the right to carry guns (unlike Mrs. Clinton), but P4P on the issues regarding personal freedom, I prefer Clinton.

But at the end of the day, Lyle, for whatever our different reasons, you and I will vote for the same guy if Obama gets the nod. Ain't American great?

[boozeboxer]

Obama would be more devisive than George W. Bush.....people won't think it's possible but he'd really piss people off with his policies. With Obama's policies you wouldn't be in control of your own life...the government would want a say in everything due to Obama wanting "economic fairness"...so if I want to work hard and make big money then I'm going to get hated on for succeeding and taxed to hell and back and so I stop working hard, get welfare, and then everyone becomes a lazy government controlled government dependent robot


As for all these democrats berating "Big Oil" for their landfall profits....well if "Big Oil" is making big money then wouldn't you think that the entity that taxes such organizations would also be raking in money hand over fist


So this talk about taxing them more just goes to show you how greedy and stupid the Democrats are. "We want to punish people who make lots of money"....the truth is if they tax "big oil" then we as consumers feel it more! Now say they said "We're going to ease the tax burden on oil companies so that prices come down" then the government would be doing everyone a solid and everyone would be happy OR say the Democrats get off their high horse and let us drill in our own back yard so we don't have to deal as much with the Saudi's and the Middle Eastern people and then next time they fuck up we can just say "Screw you guys, we're going home".

Lyle you are very silly. Of course big oil is making huge profits, record profits. Just look to companies like Anadarko, Shell/Texaco, hell even El Paso is making money. Not only that, they are surely offsetting this all with there huge projects oil companies. Big Oil are doing alot of construction and stuff.

[El Kabong]

Lyle you are very silly. Of course big oil is making huge profits, record profits. Just look to companies like Anadarko, Shell/Texaco, hell even El Paso is making money. Not only that, they are surely offsetting this all with there huge projects oil companies. Big Oil are doing alot of construction and stuff.

...and who taxes those companies??


Had Barack lost in North Carolina then hell yes there would be big problems for Obama considering he hadn't won a state since Super Tuesday.

Amat if this was all over then why are they still racing and still paying Hillary attention Mike Huckabee kept going but everyone knew he was out of it and why wasn't he taken as seriously as Mrs. Clinton?? Everyone knows the Clinton's are like Dracula it's not over until you drive the stake through their heart and that hasn't been done until she says "I suspend my campaign"...everyone is waiting for Denver for the convention and they will wait to see if Obama really is the candidate, stranger and more crooked deals have happened before and some of them even included the Clintons.

....so Allan Greenspan got the job as chairman of the Federal Reserve during both Republican AND Democrat Presidential terms because he's such a likeable guy

[amat]

Lyle you are very silly. Of course big oil is making huge profits, record profits. Just look to companies like Anadarko, Shell/Texaco, hell even El Paso is making money. Not only that, they are surely offsetting this all with there huge projects oil companies. Big Oil are doing alot of construction and stuff.

...and who taxes those companies??


Had Barack lost in North Carolina then hell yes there would be big problems for Obama considering he hadn't won a state since Super Tuesday.

Amat if this was all over then why are they still racing and still paying Hillary attention Mike Huckabee kept going but everyone knew he was out of it and why wasn't he taken as seriously as Mrs. Clinton?? Everyone knows the Clinton's are like Dracula it's not over until you drive the stake through their heart and that hasn't been done until she says "I suspend my campaign"...everyone is waiting for Denver for the convention and they will wait to see if Obama really is the candidate, stranger and more crooked deals have happened before and some of them even included the Clintons.

....so Allan Greenspan got the job as chairman of the Federal Reserve during both Republican AND Democrat Presidential terms because he's such a likeable guy

The media is paying attention to Hillary, everyone with common sense knows that her run has been over for quite some time. There is no way she can win and she's not even playing the numbers anymore whether it's the super delegates or even the Florida and Michigan delegates, none of that makes a difference because the math says she can't win. Her camp blew up this issue of the super delegates and everyone ran with that as Hillary's way to win but the super delegates almost always follow the popular vote most of the time and are now about to tip for Obama.

Hillary won Indiana by the margin of Rush Limbaugh doomsday supporters who went out to the polls and voted for Hillary to cloud up the Democratic election. Now she's even saying Obama can't win white voters while Clinton herself has shown that she can't even win WHITE WOMEN anymore.

Ouma is right, Clinton's campaign needs to be taken out back and kicked to the curb.

[amat]

A landslide? John Kerry won 9 states in 2004 and lost by 20 electoral votes. I don't know what to say if you think that Obama will fail to win even those same 9 states as Kerry. If you think that's the case then you are mistaken.

[boozeboxer]

No Al Gore, no John Kerry, and no George W. Bush.....what's not to like about these candidates


The President doesn't control the economy...if that was true how did W get us this far when he couldn't even run the Texas Rangers

McCain is for ending the war he's just for ending it a different way than Obama and Hillary and that would be the way which ties up loose ends and keeps us from having to go back in 5 years.

Boozeboxer, playing to the base of the party is a part of politics. McCain had to "kiss the ring" after he had the balls to propose a solution to the illegal immigration problem. If McCain gathers support from the far right then it's going to be a fucking LANDSLIDE the likes of which we haven't seen since the days of Reagan-Mondale.

We need a guy who honestly wants us united and I think that is McCain. The Democrats try to discredit him but he's different from W he's more open minded, smarter, he's a true leader, and he's tough as nails. Democrats HAVE to respect him for what he's done for this country....everything Obama has said in the past about change and hope and all this Che Guavera/Karl Marx bullcrap (which is exactly what it is) is summed up in his assessment of the blue collar people as "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion"....Obama is not what we need he's a guy who can and will put down this nation to make himself more popular and that is the difference between Democrats and Republicans, you'll never catch a Republican telling anyone that America OR Americans suck.

John McCain is a man who will humble himself to lift up America and tout it's greatness.

Lyle, you surely don't think our economy is 'thriving'? Our dollar is so weak that British came over to watch Clinton Woods fight.