Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
McCain would be a nightmare, not as if our economy isn't bad enough, put him in charge, that sounds like a good idea. Might as well put me in charge or Lyle. Maybe not Lyle.

Obama's actually more popular among independents than Hillary. That, the economy (and McCain's complete lack of any real economic credibility), and the fact that Democrats are much more energized as far as turnout goes than Republicans, I'd be surprised if McCain won. Hopefully not, this country is in too bad a shape for another Republican to win.

I'll say this though, those "Democrats" that are supporting Hillary and say they won't vote for Obama are a fucking embarrassment. Fuck off, should all be shot. Maybe not shot (that's a bit excessive) but they disgust me. Obama and Hillary don't even have many real policy differences, because you have a PERSONALITY problem with Obama you're going to put another train wreck of a Republican in to office. Good that you care so much about the future of the country.

I'm sure most of them will change their mind by the time of the election but its still ridiculous.
I won't take too much offense to that, Oumafan, because I'm a independent. You are right that when it comes to the ideology and the theory of there policy, Obama and Hillary aren't much different. Personality-wise, I prefer Obama, and for a while, I was enthusiastic about him, but being president is not just about your policies. It's also about your management skill, your understanding of world politics, and your experience dealing with the legislature. It's about gravitas. There are substantive differences between Hillary and Obama.

Lyle drinks the Republican Kool-Aide, but he is right that McCain would make a decent president. Even Hillary acknowledges that. In fact, McCain acknowledges that Hillary would be a good president. I've seen both of them asked the question directly, and although they have differences in believe and policy, each believes the other is a qualified candidate.

However, Lyle, I think you are dead ass wrong that Obama would be more divisive than Bush. I don't think it's possible to be more divisive than Bush and at least Obama would TRY to build bridges with the other side. And Democrats aren't any more greedy than Republicans. Just like Republicans, they are severely misguided about some things.