I conceed.

[Trainer Monkey]

Wait,your managment style is you hire a guy with those ties,and your not accountable?
In what buisness do you work?
There are these things called interviews,its a key part of managment,actually its the main part
He didnt bother to check out the guy who was running his own convention,and you want him to run the country?

[El Kabong]

....ok fine a lobbyist tried to help someone with PR for money.....WOW surprise


Now would someone explain to me Ronald Brown and Vince Foster's untimely deaths

I wouldn't expect Obama to have anything big happen yet but it'll happen and when it does, I'm going to be here waiting for an explination...although he could explain his ties to Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers and how those ties did NOT affect his political views

[Trainer Monkey]

....ok fine a lobbyist tried to help someone with PR for money.....WOW surprise


Now would someone explain to me Ronald Brown and Vince Foster's untimely deaths

I wouldn't expect Obama to have anything big happen yet but it'll happen and when it does, I'm going to be here waiting for an explination...although he could explain his ties to Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers and how those ties did NOT affect his political views

Gee a suicide and a plane crash,no,those never happen
I mean not in Falwell world,wich is unfortunatly not planet Earth,but I suppose it gives you something to talk about
Oh you didnt know
That load of tripe was paid for by Richard Mellon Scaife and hawked by Jerry(Pagans and the ACLU caused 9/11) Falwell
Its called the Arkansas Project,they never even found any concrete evidence on anything but a BJ
It cost them millions of dollars to find out the President had a hummer
Dude,turn off Limbaugh and Hannity

[boozeboxer]

Lyle is the next Kenneth Star.

[Trainer Monkey]

Lyle is the next Kenneth Star.

Im not even a huge fan of the Clintons,but c'mon,this crud has been debunked repeatedly
Trotting it out there again is just stupid

[bcollins]

Just to be honest, the choices given in the average presidential election (at least the ones I've been old enough to remotely understand) have been tantamount to picking between a cheese grater to the scrotum or some quiet time with a cactus.

It would be nice if our country was led by someone who actually gave a damn about it - and more specifically, the people in it.

All of them.

[El Kabong]

Just to be honest, the choices given in the average presidential election (at least the ones I've been old enough to remotely understand) have been tantamount to picking between a cheese grater to the scrotum or some quiet time with a cactus.

It would be nice if our country was led by someone who actually gave a damn about it - and more specifically, the people in it.

All of them.

...are you saying John McCain doesn't care about his country? Because that is blasphemy...he spent 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton because although he was offered a chance to leave early McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.

To tell me that guy doesn't care about his country after he took beating after beating and was tortured for 5 years is fucking ridiculous

[Trainer Monkey]

....ok fine a lobbyist tried to help someone with PR for money.....WOW surprise


Now would someone explain to me Ronald Brown and Vince Foster's untimely deaths

I wouldn't expect Obama to have anything big happen yet but it'll happen and when it does, I'm going to be here waiting for an explination...although he could explain his ties to Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers and how those ties did NOT affect his political views

Bill Ayers helped head up a nationally renowned education reform program,Obama served on the board Mayor Daley founded
A state senator sitting on a board of education? Perish the thought. Next thing you know they might be passing legislation and stuff.
Heaven forbid
Really dude,turn off Hannity and Savage,all you say is a talking point,and I knew you were going to say it before you did,I check alot of right wing sites

[El Kabong]

Bill Ayers helped head up a nationally renowned education reform program,Obama served on the board Mayor Daley founded
A state senator sitting on a board of education? Perish the thought. Next thing you know they might be passing legislation and stuff.
Heaven forbid
Really dude,turn off Hannity and Savage,all you say is a talking point,and I knew you were going to say it before you did,I check alot of right wing sites

I don't take Hannity or Savage seriously and I don't listen to them...I watch mainly MSNBC which even you can agree has it's fair share of liberals BUT I question them I don't just accept what they say regardless of context. But your views are so typical, ONLY Republicans get corrupted by power....ONLY Republicans make mistakes.....anyone who has a sucky life can just blame the Republicans. That's the problem with liberals they don't see their own flaws ....it's a part of politics and I bring it up to bring balance to this little debate hey if it's OK to have a FRIENDSHIP with a guy who planted 34 sticks of dynamite at a Detroit Police Station but it's not ok for a guy to have a person who had contact with the Burmese government speak for him at a convention.....maybe we can play 6 degrees of seperation while we're at it


America will survive no matter who is President and all this fatalistic talk about how doomed we are is bullcrap....stop being so childish. If Obama or Hillary is President things will be different but America will be fine and if McCain is President everything will be fine....the sun will rise again tomorrow. I just happen to think McCain will do a better job than either Hillary or Obama...but if you want to continue with your assumptions that he's far right wing and another George W. Bush and then don't accuse ME of using "talking points" when you're doing the same thing.