Was Muhammad Ali really the best

[DaxxKahn]

Record wise yes if we ignoring his gift decisions but IMO he is still overrated, he drew against Doug Jones IMO, he got lucky against Cooper having smelling salts which were illegal in UK at that time, he lost to Young, he lost to Shavers, he lost to Norton x2, And someone mentioned that Louis would get slaughtered by Ali because Louis was flat footed, but then i ask that person how did flat footed fighters like Jones and Cooper give Ali so much trouble ??

The second Norton fight was close but I still give it to Ali and the third Ali won hands down....

Your the only one I ever heard say Ali lost to Jimmy Young

The only one who you have seen ?? most of the ring side reporters had Young winning the Ali fight and majority of the boxing fans i know thinks Young won there fight as well. Yes Ali was overweight and he looked like crap, but that still doesn't change the fact that it was indeed a gift. And you can't be serious regarding Norton vs Ali 3 ?? thats one of the most controversial fights in history, and to say Ali won that hands down is just silly Daxx IMO not trying to be rude here by the way, when it is considered by most boxing fans that there 3rd fight is much more controversial than there 2nd meeting.

I had Ali winning all 3 of those...Just my Opp

[ICB]

The second Norton fight was close but I still give it to Ali and the third Ali won hands down....

Your the only one I ever heard say Ali lost to Jimmy Young

The only one who you have seen ?? most of the ring side reporters had Young winning the Ali fight and majority of the boxing fans i know thinks Young won there fight as well. Yes Ali was overweight and he looked like crap, but that still doesn't change the fact that it was indeed a gift. And you can't be serious regarding Norton vs Ali 3 ?? thats one of the most controversial fights in history, and to say Ali won that hands down is just silly Daxx IMO not trying to be rude here by the way, when it is considered by most boxing fans that there 3rd fight is much more controversial than there 2nd meeting.

I had Ali winning all 3 of those...Just my Opp

Thats interesting Daxx did you have Leonard beating Hagler ?? just out of curiosity i just want to see how you score fights.

[DaxxKahn]

The only one who you have seen ?? most of the ring side reporters had Young winning the Ali fight and majority of the boxing fans i know thinks Young won there fight as well. Yes Ali was overweight and he looked like crap, but that still doesn't change the fact that it was indeed a gift. And you can't be serious regarding Norton vs Ali 3 ?? thats one of the most controversial fights in history, and to say Ali won that hands down is just silly Daxx IMO not trying to be rude here by the way, when it is considered by most boxing fans that there 3rd fight is much more controversial than there 2nd meeting.

I had Ali winning all 3 of those...Just my Opp

Thats interesting Daxx did you have Leonard beating Hagler ?? just out of curiosity i just want to see how you score fights.

No I had Hagler up by 2....IMO Leonard got the nod because he was Leonard (No other way to put it)...

[ICB]

I had Ali winning all 3 of those...Just my Opp

Thats interesting Daxx did you have Leonard beating Hagler ?? just out of curiosity i just want to see how you score fights.

No I had Hagler up by 2....IMO Leonard got the nod because he was Leonard (No other way to put it)...

Ahh ok i was just wondering it you favored fighters who fought in spurts with the more flashy work.

[DaxxKahn]

Thats interesting Daxx did you have Leonard beating Hagler ?? just out of curiosity i just want to see how you score fights.

No I had Hagler up by 2....IMO Leonard got the nod because he was Leonard (No other way to put it)...

Ahh ok i was just wondering it you favored fighters who fought in spurts with the more flashy work.

I don't like a lot of flash and cettainly do not go for guys who try to steal rounds...

With that being said I will sometimes give a round to a guy who was hit more but controlled the tempo of the round...made the other guy fight at his pace...made the guy stop working when he wanted to etc....now I am not talking about if a guy gets peppered the whole round and manages to slow things down by holding on for dear life....

I am talking if he does not run and keeps things going the way he wants...If he fights in spurts he has to control the rest of the tempo...not run, get hit at will then just rattle off some punches every 30 seconds to make it look like has has done something

[donnydarkoIRL]

To answer the original question, yes I think Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight.

Over Louis and Marciano he enjoyed a size, speed, reach, weight and movement advantage.

Over Johnson he had ring generalship and combinations.

I feel Ali at hois peak was the best and would have difficulty only with Holmes, Lewis and Norton.

[Trainer Monkey]

To answer the original question, yes I think Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight.

Over Louis and Marciano he enjoyed a size, speed, reach, weight and movement advantage.

Over Johnson he had ring generalship and combinations.

I feel Ali at hois peak was the best and would have difficulty only with Holmes, Lewis and Norton.

It was his ability to fight in or out that made him a nightmare to deal with. He had the power to slug with you if he had to,but he could also disapeer on a moments notice. He had the weirdest but the best footwork of any heavyweight Ive ever seen,combined with a hook that could drop you dead.

[Youngblood]

I showed up here at saddo a n00b boxing fan, and of course would say Ali is the greatest ever. It was all I really knew.

Since reading a lot of educated boxing fan opinions, I no longer have that same mindset. And thanks to the wonders of youtube, online vid in general where I can go watch fighters like Joe Louis and so on, it really broadens ones outlook on the sport. So for now the jury is still out.

So yea, thanks for that.