Ricky Hatton; Good Call.

[Kel]

Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

Khan? I think Frank Warren would rather get fucked by a dinosaur than put Khan in with Hatton mate.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Even though Witter lost he is still a very good fighter. Every fighter loses sometimes and it doesnt mean hes overratted. Bradley desrves a lot of credit as does Witter. Anyone who had seen Bradley fight before could see that he was very capable of pulling off an upset. Hatton-Witter is still an interesting fight imo.

Witter did nothing for large portions of the fight last saturday night.

He knew everybody was watching and it was his big night.

[Fenster]

The ridiculously rich mega-millionaire took a slight dent to his millions payday against Lazcano to benifit his fans..

.. Or maybe the truth is HBO and Showtime, rightly, rejected the fight because it's so crap

The man of the people.

[Bomp]

The thing is Harris was shot to hell!

Witter was calling out Hatton just for me.

I genuinely believe Ricky when he said he just wanted to prevent Witter getting minted off his name

I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

I don't want to ignite an arguement, but Witter's ranking at No.2 (after Hatton) was more a reflection on the lack of depth in the Light Welterweight division at the moment.

People continue to complain that Ricky hasn't fought anyone since Tszyu.
But in trurth there are very few others remaining at Light Welter. Since Cotto's immigration all that remains is Paulie, Torres, Kotelnik, Witter and D-Hop.
Although Bradley can now be added to that list, it is clear that there is little flexibility in the division.
Witter demanded his hot, but in truth, what sort of a fight woulkd it make?

The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter

Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

[Bomp]

The ridiculously rich mega-millionaire took a slight dent to his millions payday against Lazcano to benifit his fans..

.. Or maybe the truth is HBO and Showtime, rightly, rejected the fight because it's so crap

The man of the people.

This is the type of thing that's put me off Hatton recently. While to be fair he's no more of a businessman than most fighters (and you certainly can't begrudge a fighter making the most of a short and dangerous career), he seems to have fabricated this public image that he's a take on anyone warrior and that fame hasn't changed him a bit. 20% same old Ricky, 80% can't stop banging on about it.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter

Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

[Bomp]

Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

That would be a vrey good ending to his career IMO, and he could rightly claim to be one of the best LWW in history, it's what he should do as I can't see another route for him to take without taking on the WWs again.

[Fenster]

The ridiculously rich mega-millionaire took a slight dent to his millions payday against Lazcano to benifit his fans..

.. Or maybe the truth is HBO and Showtime, rightly, rejected the fight because it's so crap

The man of the people.

This is the type of thing that's put me off Hatton recently. While to be fair he's no more of a businessman than most fighters (and you certainly can't begrudge a fighter making the most of a short and dangerous career), he seems to have fabricated this public image that he's a take on anyone warrior and that fame hasn't changed him a bit. 20% same old Ricky, 80% can't stop banging on about it.

Don't begrudge him his success. But it's a bit rich carrying on the "man of the people" bullshit and conning fans into believing you're taking paycuts for their sake.

Fuck the fans that buy all his PPV's too.

It's ironic the thread starter accuses Witter of only being in it for the money

[donnydarkoIRL]

Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

That would be a vrey good ending to his career IMO, and he could rightly claim to be one of the best LWW in history, it's what he should do as I can't see another route for him to take without taking on the WWs again.

There's nobody left for him to fight.

He'll have to finish his career with the big names at 140 because thats all he has left to beat.

[Bomp]

If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

That would be a vrey good ending to his career IMO, and he could rightly claim to be one of the best LWW in history, it's what he should do as I can't see another route for him to take without taking on the WWs again.

There's nobody left for him to fight.

He'll have to finish his career with the big names at 140 because thats all he has left to beat.

It's a bit of a quagmire for him to be honest, he has many fight options but it's impossible to say which route would be best for his legacy. I always felt he never cleaned out the division like he should have, yet the guys there at the moment aren't that great, with Witter out of the way and if he beats Paulie, fighting Torres and Kotelnik won't add much to that. Fighting the guys coming up like Pacman will make for an occasion, but won't add much to his legacy, unless Khan somehow dominates quickly and Hatton hangs around for him to genuinely come up in weight.

The other alternative is to take a fight he has a small chance of winning, some boxers do that, perhaps aim for someone like Cotto. Though I'm mostly against it, from Hatton's point of view beating the only man he has lost to does make sense legacy wise, but from a fans perspective he should really earn that 2nd shot by making a genuine statement (against a highly regarded WW) rather than beating a shot lightweight followed be a decentish LWW titleholder. If he wants to be remembered as a p4p great of this era (another thing he seems obsessed with), he needs to do great things, not just take the fights he's expected to win.

[donnydarkoIRL]

After losing to Mayweather Hatton had to fight everybody.

He will take on Paulie and the other champs and he may have taken on Witter had Wiotter retained, but Witter is out of the picture now because he wasn't good enough to retain.

Thats the situation and those are the only details we can be sure of.

[HattonTheHammer]

Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

Will never happen in a million years!!

[Memphis]

I think Ricky will be delighted with Sats result, IMO he was hoping that someone would knock Witter off his perch and save Hatton the hastle of possibly getting sparked out (not likely based on Sats form)

Witter Hatton would have been a far more fitting 'thank you' than this nonsense with Lazcano.

Im glad Im on holiday, cant be tempted to buy that shite.

[totalboxing1]

So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

[Fenster]

I think Ricky will be delighted with Sats result, IMO he was hoping that someone would knock Witter off his perch and save Hatton the hastle of possibly getting sparked out (not likely based on Sats form)

Witter Hatton would have been a far more fitting 'thank you' than this nonsense with Lazcano.

Im glad Im on holiday, cant be tempted to buy that shite.

This fight should be boycotted by all true boxing fans. Although I will probably buy it if in on the night.

1. I can afford to lose £15

2. I'm a MUG.