Was Muhammad Ali really the best

[ICB]

When Holmes has said that Ali was better,Im inclined to believe him

He said that out of respect, Tyson also said he wouldn't have stood a chance against Holmes in his prime. Do you honestly think he thinks that way really ?? its just out of respect do you know how many boxers have said that in the past ??

[Trainer Monkey]

When Holmes has said that Ali was better,Im inclined to believe him

He said that out of respect, Tyson also said he wouldn't have stood a chance against Holmes in his prime. Do you honestly think he thinks that way really ?? its just out of respect do you know how many boxers have said that in the past ??

He should have meant it,because prime Holmes would have torched Tyson,that jab would have drilled him all the live long day
Prime Ali was better then Holmes,Im a huge Larry fan,my in-laws live 15 minutes from the town his money resurected for gods sake,but Ali was better

[ICB]

When Holmes has said that Ali was better,Im inclined to believe him

He said that out of respect, Tyson also said he wouldn't have stood a chance against Holmes in his prime. Do you honestly think he thinks that way really ?? its just out of respect do you know how many boxers have said that in the past ??

He should have meant it,because prime Holmes would have torched Tyson,that jab would have drilled him all the live long day
Prime Ali was better then Holmes,Im a huge Larry fan,my in-laws live 15 minutes from the town his money resurected for gods sake,but Ali was better

Well i believe prime Holmes would of beat prime Tyson but that wasn't my point. My point was a lot of boxers say that out of respect when deep down they don't really believe it. Holmes is one of my favorite fighters but he is very confident fighter, so i doubt deep down he truly believes he couldn't of beat Ali, when Ali struggled with lesser fighters than Larry Holmes, Ali never dealt with someone like Holmes and vice a versa.

[Trainer Monkey]

Simply put,Holmes footwork was slightly plodding,Ali would have never been there,but the counter punch would have been.
Everything is compaired to Ali for a reason, he was Ali

[ICB]

Simply put,Holmes footwork was slightly plodding,Ali would have never been there,but the counter punch would have been.
Everything is compaired to Ali for a reason, he was Ali

But all the fighters that gave Ali trouble none of them had good footwork. And Holmes wasn't no slouch in the footwork department, he could dance around the ring very well when he chose to, he just didn't need to because that piston left jab keep his opponents away from him and also made them cautious with there offense.

[Trainer Monkey]

Simply put,Holmes footwork was slightly plodding,Ali would have never been there,but the counter punch would have been.
Everything is compaired to Ali for a reason, he was Ali

But all the fighters that gave Ali trouble none of them had good footwork. And Holmes wasn't no slouch in the footwork department, he could dance around the ring very well when he chose to, he just didn't need to because that piston left jab keep his opponents away from him and also made them cautious with there offense.

Most he screwed around with,the guy who who gave the biggest issues was Frazier,and thats because of all the head movement,he was hard to trace on, and Ali allways wanted to land one solid one early to let you know he could hurt you,so youd fight scared for the rest of the fight. I have to give Joe credit, Ali did drill him, and he just kept weaving in like a little tank.
Unfortunatly that style caught up with Joe

[ICB]

Simply put,Holmes footwork was slightly plodding,Ali would have never been there,but the counter punch would have been.
Everything is compaired to Ali for a reason, he was Ali

But all the fighters that gave Ali trouble none of them had good footwork. And Holmes wasn't no slouch in the footwork department, he could dance around the ring very well when he chose to, he just didn't need to because that piston left jab keep his opponents away from him and also made them cautious with there offense.

Most he screwed around with,the guy who who gave the biggest issues was Frazier,and thats because of all the head movement,he was hard to trace on, and Ali allways wanted to land one solid one early to let you know he could hurt you,so youd fight scared for the rest of the fight. I have to give Joe credit, Ali did drill him, and he just kept weaving in like a little tank.
Unfortunatly that style caught up with Joe

Frazier used to get underneath Ali's straight shots his jab, straight right hand etc, but with Foreman's wild uppercuts and hooks that bob and weave style was useless. Boxing is funny sometimes its like Rock, Paper, Scissors.

[Master]

Holmes struggled with the speed of Witherspoon and Carl Williams.

[ICB]

Holmes struggled with the speed of Witherspoon and Carl Williams.

He was past his peak by then and it wasn't nothing to do with Witherspoon's speed. It was down to styles, Witherspoon had similar style to Ken Norton. He blocked Holmes left jab with his right glove in that crab like defense and countered with rising jabs it was nothing to do with speed it was down to styles. And as for Carl Williams he troubled Holmes with his footwork Holmes didn't have the speed anymore being 35 years old.